posted on March 26, 2006 09:08:23 AM new
There have been more and more articles in the online news sites about the Canadian seal hunting.....and everytime I read one of them you come to my mind.
Canada hunters start killing seals, tempers flare
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Mar 25, 5:27 PM (ET)
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By Paul Darrow
OFF CANADA'S EAST COAST (Reuters) -
Canadian hunters started shooting and clubbing harp seal pups on Saturday at the start of an annual hunt that is the focus of a tech-savvy protest by animal rights groups.
This year, 325,000 young seals will be killed on the ice floes off the East Coast where the animals gather.
Unusually warm weather means the floes are a fraction of their normal size and thickness, prompting hunters to kill the seals individually rather than clubbing them to death en masse as they cluster on the ice in pools of blood.
"It's slow going. The ice is not full of seals all over the place," said Roger Simon of Canada's federal fisheries ministry, which oversees the hunt.
The crack of rifle fire could be heard continually as hunters in boats shot seals as they lay on tiny floes and then dashed over to the bodies in hopes of retrieving them before they slipped off the ice and sank.
Once the animals are killed, they are skinned and taken into the hunters' boats. The pelt is taken to make coats while the rest of the carcass is usually left behind.
At one point a hunter, frustrated at the activists' presence, picked up the bloody carcass of a skinned seal and threw it at a small inflatable craft full of protesters and journalists. It hit the boat and sank.
One sealing boat steamed straight toward the journalists' craft and turned at the last moment, sending a wave crashing over the observers.
Canada says the hunt gives the local economy a crucial boost and helps keep a harp seal population of almost six million animals in check.
The Humane Society of the United States has chartered a 110-foot (30-meter) boat to follow the hunt and is putting film and videos of the killings on its Web site.
"It's disgusting when you stand out here and look at what the seals have been through already. They're clinging on for life as it is, thanks to the effects of global warming," said the society's Rebecca Aldworth.
"I'm really appalled the Canadian government continues to allow this slaughter. There's no need for anyone to be out here killing seals," she told Reuters from the hunting zone.
CANADA SAYS KILLINGS ARE HUMANE
Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Canada was behaving responsibly and would enforce rules ensuring that the seals were killed humanely.
"Unfortunately here we're to some degree the victim of a bit of an international propaganda campaign," he said on Friday.
Celebrities such as former French film star Brigitte Bardot and ex-Beatle Paul McCartney called on Ottawa this week to stop the hunt.
Aldworth repeated calls for an international boycott of Canadian seafood to protest what she said was "incredible cruelty at the hunt, including dragging conscious seals across the ice with boathooks, shooting seals and leaving them to suffer in agony and skinning seals alive."
The first part of the hunt, which takes place near the Magdalen Islands in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, usually takes about 10 to 12 days to complete. This year's quotes is just over 90,000 seals.
The second and larger stage, off the coast of Newfoundland, starts on April 4.
posted on March 26, 2006 01:57:42 PM new
Liars!! Stephen Harper is a LIAR! I'd like to hear who, in Canada, thinks the seal hunt is humane. What a load. Only a sadist would approve of this stuff.
posted on March 26, 2006 04:24:15 PM new
Lets see some slime ball piece of sh!t can commit murder and they don't kill the bastard, but an innocent baby seal is clubbed to death or shot and then skinned.
Seems a little backwards to me.
I could understand more if they allowed the native people to hunt and kill for food.
posted on March 26, 2006 06:04:27 PM new
"Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Canada was behaving responsibly and would enforce rules ensuring that the seals were killed humanely."
Beating a seal to death is humane?? ROFLMAO!!
""Unfortunately here we're to some degree the victim of a bit of an international propaganda campaign," he said on Friday."
WHAT propaganda?? Its all on film and pictures-just google "canadian seals" and you can see how lovely these scumbags are.
I just dont understand the reason for beating these poor aninmals to death for furs.If they were doing it for food,I could understand this,but at least they could shoot them instead of beating them to death.Personally dont know of anyone of owns a "seal coat"...is that what they call them??
"Aldworth repeated calls for an international boycott of Canadian seafood to protest what she said was "incredible cruelty at the hunt, including dragging conscious seals across the ice with boathooks, shooting seals and leaving them to suffer in agony and skinning seals alive."
Of course Bigpeepa doesnt mind this,hes busy saving lifes<gigantic eyeroll>I've asked him many times how many lives he actually saved and how he goes about doing this....never got an answer which leads me to believe,like most of his posts, that hes full of sh*t
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[ edited by classicrock000 on Mar 26, 2006 06:06 PM ]
posted on March 26, 2006 06:39:25 PM new
While I don't especially like it, and I have particular dislike for those who wear fur, baby seals aren't killed. They just aren't. Go read the regs on the Canadian gov't. site.
I gotta say, I don't understand this concern for Canadian seals on the part of Americans who apparently don't give a rat's ass where the meat they feed their children comes from. Seems like something's wrong with that picture.
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posted on March 26, 2006 06:45:19 PM new
profe. Surely you're aware that they aren't ALL going my gov. regulations....especially when camera's have caught them doing just that.
On not worrying about where the meat I feed my children comes from....I don't feed them anymore....they feed themselves....and that's their decision to make now.
You're not trying to get us to buy our beef from you are you???? [joking]
posted on March 26, 2006 07:30:08 PM new
Everytime I see his 'cheeses' thingy it makes me think of canned cheese. Now that's a real friend for ya. You can take it with you when you go fishing and spray it on a cracker real easilly for a quick snack...or use it for chum.
posted on March 26, 2006 08:38:12 PM new
I'm just a cheeses kind of guy. You know...a cheeses freak..
what would cheeses do?
praise cheeses...
cheeses, Mary and Joseph..
cheeses Kee-Riste I wishwe had some spam!
Course I don't think they all follow the rules, Linda. It's just that there are lots of people that would have us believe that clubbing babies is the the whole point of the hunt, and it clearly isn't.
Far as beef is concerned, mine isn't for sale and to be quite honest with you, I'm more concerned with the way those poor animals have to live than I am with the humans who choose to eat them. Humans have the luxury of choice, farm animals don't. Like I've said before, a seal that's had a few months out on the ice, eating fish and getting to be a seal, is infinitely more fortunate even if it get's bludgeoned to death by some brain dead canuck, than a veal calf that's been raised in a pen so small it can't turn around in, unable to either fully stand or fully lay down.
Everybody here knows I hunt and use guns in the operation of my place and most know that I raise and kill my own beef, lamb, goat, pork and poultry. Most also know that I'm an "animal lover" who'll almost always side with PETA over the NRA. But this seal business is the perfect anti hunting campaign. They're just so goddarned cute that all reason goes right into the dumper and anyone who could condone the senseless slaughter of these ADORABLE creatures is heartless cruel and ignorant.
I just don't think it's quite that simple, that's all.
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posted on March 26, 2006 09:16:24 PM new
And don't forget this one; I've found Cheeses, he was hiding behind the sofa the whole time. So that's what was stinking so bad...dern Limburger...who cut the cheese.
Cheeses saves, he shoots, he scores!
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[ edited by piinthesky on Mar 26, 2006 09:18 PM ]
posted on March 27, 2006 12:33:07 PM new
Another standing ovation for Prof. Excellent posts!
P.S. Since I've been in Canada, I have never seen a person wear anything made of seal fur. It's not a soft fur - only the white baby fur is soft and that's illegal. Where is this seal pelt trade taking place?
[ edited by kraftdinner on Mar 27, 2006 12:38 PM ]
posted on March 27, 2006 01:25:24 PM new
what kraft? and you're not going to cheer classic and ron for their perfect innuendo? Whats wrong kraftdinner...you dont feel like making ALL the men on the board welcome today?
posted on March 27, 2006 02:03:29 PM new
HEre you go Krafty......
The following are the country-by-country seal skin export statistics from Industry Canada . The numbers are the "raw" seal skin exports in Canadian dollars.
2005
Norway - 6,761,996
Greenland - 4,000,000
Finland - 1,912,936
Hong Kong - 380,338
Germany - 255,288
Turkey - 62,556
Russia - 30,365
Denmark - 11,285
Kazakhstan - 496
Mexico - 13
The strange thing is that they say in the same article that in 2005 a seal pelt was selling for about $70CAN ... so just what did that 1 Mexican guy get for $13?
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[ edited by fenix03 on Mar 27, 2006 02:05 PM ]
posted on March 27, 2006 03:18:12 PM new
Quit being so bossy, Double. I don't see Ron or Classic relating the seal slaughter to that of the meat that's on your or their plates each night. That's why nobody except Prof wants to talk about it, or haven't you noticed, Miss Sharpie?
posted on March 27, 2006 03:30:15 PM new
Many thanks Fenix. So this is an approx. 15 million dollar industry? How horribly lame. On one hand you have Canada wanting to be progressive and a leader in environmental issues, and on the other you have this. That doesn't make any sense to me, especially for 15 million.
And what the frig do they use seal pelts for in Hong Kong or Turkey?
posted on March 27, 2006 04:04:56 PM newQuit being so bossy, Double.
Who is bossy, kraft? Just a suggestion. You leave people out and then say you want the MEN on this board to feel welcomed. Was just a little friendly reminder from your friend decoder double... Dont go getting all Pms'ish now..
posted on March 27, 2006 04:54:40 PM new
" I don't see Ron or Classic relating the seal slaughter to that of the meat that's on your or their plates each night. "
well krafty seal fur is NOT a necessity..eating is.
posted on March 27, 2006 09:36:05 PM new
Classic you forgot one would actually have to give a sh!t about a cow, hog or chicken who are bred for one thing only and that is to provide food for humans.
I personally have never had seal meat have you?
Kraft it is a proven fact you don't get the same protien from plants that you get from animals. Being an omnivore is the more healthy.
posted on March 29, 2006 12:18:55 PM new
Ron & Classic, it's what they inject into meat that worries me (for meat eaters). It's the conditions animals live in and are slaughtered in that worry me. It's retro diseases. It's mad cow, etc.
Obviously, people don't care about what they eat or we'd all be slim and healthy. What causes everyone to be fat and sick? Ever wondered? Ever wondered why we all need this massive health care program? Shouldn't we all be healthier than anything considering we have everything there is to offer on the whole planet? For people to say they need animal protein to survive, when they're eating bags of chips and chocolates, shows me they could care less about how they get their protein. People choose whatever's easiest.
Becoming a vegetarian isn't easy. Making choices about what you feed yourself isn't easy. Knowing that the slaughtered seals of Canada go through much of the same horror as any commercially slaughtered animal isn't easy to accept. It's all choice.
