bebeboom
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posted on June 13, 2006 08:27:49 AM
I have been posting here for a few years and thought that I had been contributing to the conversations, debates, topics as well as anyone.
Lately, I have been told by a few that I am a dumbass, lack credibility, and never contribute anything worthwhile.
I have posted my points of view, my opinions, and my take on things. I don't use cut and pastes or other peoples words to deliver my messages. I don't need the media to tell me what I should believe and I have kept an open mind and used my own thought processes to come to my own conclusions. I don't need an Ann or a
Micheal Moore to tell me what I should think.
But apparently this is not acceptable to some here, when we disagree, we are branded dumb or worse.
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piinthesky
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posted on June 13, 2006 08:39:22 AM
Anyone that believes that there is anything resembling 'debate' going on here is full of sh!t. What I do see instead is that there is plenty of character assasination going on here.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on June 13, 2006 09:29:59 AM
Yeah your comments to stonecold are just inspiring. Were those the contributions you seem so proud of? Or how about your comments to Lindak? More comments to be proud of. dumbass.
Pii you can never have debate when one side posts putting the other side immediately on the defensive.
Ron
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Bear1949
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posted on June 13, 2006 09:59:23 AM
Mags, be glad your buddy Craw isnt still crawling up you azz.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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kiara
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posted on June 13, 2006 10:27:40 AM
Maggie, some who side with the Bush administration live and die by the philosophy 'You are either with us or you are against us'
Their mantra is C&Ps from their own selective sites and if you form your own opinion with no site that you've copied from, it confuses them because they no longer seem to believe in free thought.
For some there is no middle road where another person can agree with some issues and disagree with others. There is no middle road where a person can be more liberal on some issues and more conservative on others.
If you don't bow down and suck up and go with their doctrine, you are immediately labeled. If you continue to voice your own opinion they feel threatened and they say you lack credibility and if you call them on any lies they've made up about your beliefs, you then lack moral character or are accused of harassment. 
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Bear1949
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posted on June 13, 2006 10:34:59 AM
some who side with the Bush administration live and die by the philosophy 'You are either with us or you are against us'
As if your innocent of blanket blaming those who disagree with you.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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classicrock000
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posted on June 13, 2006 11:43:54 AM
well ahh I hate to say this,but out of all of you I think Im the ONLY one who has any creditability.
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kiara
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posted on June 13, 2006 12:22:17 PM
Bear, I don't expect any or all to agree with everything I say and I never have. I've always tried to keep an open mind to understand why others believe as they do and I have asked questions so as to better understand them, especially when I hear the blanket hate speech about certain groups.
If I am labeled wrongly by someone and then called anti-American because I spoke out about the war in Iraq I'm not about to ingratiate myself by bending to them and accepting it by remaining silent for fear I may not meet their approval.
edited to add that the ones calling Maggie names and telling her she lacks credibility have never seemed to want to participate in an active dialogue with her to begin with, whenever she posts her opinion on a topic.
[ edited by kiara on Jun 13, 2006 12:37 PM ]
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bigpeepa
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posted on June 13, 2006 12:48:55 PM
Kiara said,'You are either with us or you are against us' talking about DUMBO BUSH SUPPORTERS AND THEIR BLIND UNREALISTIC SUPPORT FOR DUMBO.
That is why I don't even bother trying to "debate" with neocons.
I just point out their failed leader DUMBO BUSH AND HIS CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT MISTAKES AND BLUNDERS.
All one has to remember is just a year or so ago most of the neocons on this board were bragging about DUMBO. Now the same Dumbo supporters spend all their time defending DUMBO'S MISTAKES AND BLUNDERS.
COME AND JOIN THE GREAT AMERICAN PROTEST ON 11/07/06
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piinthesky
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posted on June 13, 2006 01:01:10 PM
That is why I don't even bother trying to "debate" with neocons.
And that makes you a masturdebater.
And i'm just like Classic with his creditability. In fact I have so much creditability that i'm thinking about getting another credit card so that I will be able to spread my creditability around a little better.
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irked
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posted on June 13, 2006 01:02:46 PM
Well I think everyone has credibility. Everyone has a right to their beliefs and to express them but I really don't agree with the hurtful name calling EXCEPT those little endearing ones that are funny and not hurtful.
If everyone believed the same thing no disagreements this would really be a boring world, huh?
Get out the gloves and keep it clean!
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I married my wife for her looks...but not the
ones she's been giving me lately!
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twig125silver
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posted on June 13, 2006 01:17:16 PM
No. I'm the one with credibility!
kiara- In all fairness, it isn't just "some who side with the Bush administration" that believe you are "with us or against us". That's on both sides of the political fence. I think I'm one of those "middle-of-the-road" kind of people. There are those here that liken anyone who voted for Bush to the anti-Christ.
bebeboom- I thought I was your friend!
pi- "masturdebater".....
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piinthesky
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posted on June 13, 2006 01:47:52 PM
It's..........titilating huh, Twig.
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twig125silver
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posted on June 13, 2006 02:11:57 PM
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Bear1949
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posted on June 13, 2006 02:25:54 PM
It's..........titilating huh
Glad you didn't say "lubricating"...
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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kiara
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posted on June 13, 2006 07:35:30 PM
Twig, I was first responding to Maggie concerning her opening post and why she is treated that way. Personally I see Maggie as quite moderate with her views and she is educated and well-spoken. She also brings lots of charm and humor to this board. She gave her own opinion on Guantanamo and was met with personal insults that were uncalled for ....... perhaps I should have just said for her to consider the source.
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bebeboom
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posted on June 13, 2006 08:38:45 PM
Thank you Kiara for your support here.
I had a wonderful day outdoors today. My little orange tree produced it's first orange, except it's still green..LOL
Twig, you know I adore you!
I guess I just rub certain people here the wrong way. Oh well, life's to short to worry about it..I'm me like me or put me on ignore.
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parklane64
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posted on June 14, 2006 02:11:06 PM
I believe in pay as you go. I have debitability.
Even if it was discovered that dubyah was the anti-cheeses and I repudiated him, I still wouldn't be on the same side as bigpoopoohead.
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The raghead fig-puckers are fighting to spread their culture and religion, and to destroy ours
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DrArcane
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posted on June 14, 2006 06:36:53 PM
I think Maggie/Bebeboom has gotten a LOT more moderate over the past few years.
Back in the day, she used to match the hatefulness of Crowfart. They used to feed off one another.
Lately, she has been much more civil and just plain "nice" most of the time. I guess there is a lot to be said about the company one keeps.
I definitely like the reformed 'Maggieboom' better than the old edition.
Dr. Arcane, revelator of mystical secrets
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bebeboom
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posted on June 14, 2006 07:40:38 PM
uh....geese..Dr.Arc... thanks..I think?
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Bear1949
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posted on June 14, 2006 07:56:08 PM
Lately, she has been much more civil and just plain "nice" most of the time.
It's called mellowing in your OLD AGE.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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bebeboom
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posted on June 14, 2006 08:49:59 PM
You've got that right Bear, I'm probably old enough to be DR.Arc's mother.
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irked
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posted on June 14, 2006 11:37:53 PM
 Yep old age mellows the nastiest of us, I use to be a real jerk at times, uhhhhhhh--did I say use to be? At least I think I use to be and am uuuuhhh not still.
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I married my wife for her looks...but not the
ones she's been giving me lately!
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classicrock000
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posted on June 15, 2006 03:51:29 AM
"You've got that right Bear, I'm probably old enough to be DR.Arc's mother."
grandmother would be more like it.....
"Back in the day, she used to match the hatefulness of Crowfart. They used to feed off one another."
where is crowfart anyway? I miss her.........
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stonecold613
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posted on June 15, 2006 07:23:49 AM
Did you say irked or jerked?
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Many misleading tricks in 2006. The new Demomoron slogan.
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DrArcane
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posted on June 15, 2006 09:22:19 AM
"where is crowfart anyway? I miss her........."
Bite your tongue. Please.
Lesseee... If Bebeboom was old enough to be my mother, that would make her... <does the math> REALLY OLD! Maybe even older than classic.
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bebeboom
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posted on June 15, 2006 10:30:36 AM
Nooooooooooooo.. I'm much younger than our old
Classy! I'm assuming you are still in your 20's Dr.Arc??
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twig125silver
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posted on June 15, 2006 01:18:31 PM
It seems I remember he's around 30-ish....
kiara- I might read a thread once and then move on, so I miss alot of the "fireworks". There are some posters that I very seldom read. Sometimes threads look interesting, sometimes I post and others I don't. I try to avoid threads that become one big name-calling contest and I try to avoid personality conflicts. It's childish, imo, for the most part. I wasn't trying to attack you and I thank you for not taking what I said the wrong way.
Sometimes a word or phrase strikes me funny, then I comment on that. If I don't understand something, and I don't think I'll sound too ignorant, I'll ask. And I like the joke threads. We all need to laugh a little more.....there's enough to stress a person out.
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classicrock000
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posted on June 15, 2006 05:38:04 PM
"Classy! I'm assuming you are still in your 20's"
why yes I am-how did you guess??
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DrArcane
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posted on June 15, 2006 06:07:23 PM
"I'm assuming you are still in your 20's Dr.Arc??"
"It seems I remember he's around 30-ish...."
Very LATE 30-ish. ALMOST that other number-ish.
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