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 roadsmith
 
posted on October 19, 2006 09:54:31 PM new
That's all. He rocks. Some guy! Saw him and his wife on Oprah's show yesterday; saw him on Larry King tonight. Brilliant, likeable.

 
 logansdad
 
posted on October 20, 2006 09:24:00 AM new
He will make a great president one day. I wonder if the American people would be open to having an African-American President.


Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 bebeboom
 
posted on October 20, 2006 10:14:25 AM new
I'd vote for him. He is biracial, white mother, and black father, if I read correctly, and yet he is referred to as African American.

I like his freshness and enthusiasm, he doesn't carry the stench of corruption...yet..

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 20, 2006 10:28:53 AM new
Even the liberal LA Times wonders about him....speaks about him talking a good talk but being 'unproven'.

In part:

Indeed, Obama is that oddest of all creatures: a leader who's never led.

There are no courageous, lonely crusades to his name, or supremely unlikely electoral battles beneath his belt. He won election running basically unopposed, and then refused to open himself to attack by making a controversial but correct issue his own.


Is that evidence of youth, or timidity? Does he hold no unpopular opinions, or does he simply avoid conflict? How would he react to fusillades launched by able opponents?
For now, nobody knows.

But given the smear campaign launched against every recent Democratic nominee, grace and strength under fire should be proven qualities before Democrats even consider a potential candidate.

There are, to be sure, ways Obama could prove his mettle, not to mention his priorities. He could, say, make universal healthcare coverage his public obsession or demand an end to the war in Iraq. He could fight for full public financing of all campaigns, or seek a national living wage.


But until then, if Obama gleams, Democrats have no way of knowing if it's because he's truly an action hero or because he's refused to step out of his packaging. And until that question is answered, the hardened fighters they know are preferable to the attractive cipher they don't.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-klein8oct08,0,7743630.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail


So there we have a PROGRESSIVE democrat....Obama...that even his OWN party is unsure of. I seriously doubt American's are ready to put an unproven progressive in our highest office. Nope....no matter his race...America is NOT ready for a liberal progressive.

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While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:

What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Oct 20, 2006 10:31 AM ]
 
 roadsmith
 
posted on October 20, 2006 11:32:47 AM new
How very predictable you are, Linda. Go ahead and try to find something wrong with this brilliant, kind, courageous thinker. I won't be visiting your posts to argue because you're NOT a good thinker.

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on October 20, 2006 11:41:01 AM new
liar_k,

Its obvious that in just a short time after the 2004 STOLEN ELECTIONS you and your kind went from having it all to BIG TIME LOSERS.

WITH YOUNG DEMOCRATS LIKE OBAMA. WE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WILL BE AFTER GREEDY,SELF CENTERED,SELF SERVING PEOPLE LIKE YOU A LONG TIME. YES!!!

 
 kiara
 
posted on October 20, 2006 12:09:24 PM new
I think he shows lots of promise and he does seem refreshing compared to most others. But I believe that the whole political system corrupts everyone to some extent sooner or later no matter how good their intentions are.

The neocons are most likely disappointed that they are unable to dig up any dirt or find any corruption on his part so he may be viewed as a threat to them.

OBAMA: There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America.


 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 20, 2006 03:08:29 PM new
roadsmith -

ROFLOL at your reaction to an LA TIMES article.

They're a MOST liberal newspaper. THEY printed that op-ed piece....and last I heard there are NO conservatives working for the LA Times. They're all left wingers.

It's THEIR opinion. LOL LOL LOL

That I agree with them, since I RARELY do...should be a positive situation.


While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:

What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
 
 profe51
 
posted on October 21, 2006 06:22:20 AM new
There are no courageous, lonely crusades to his name, or supremely unlikely electoral battles beneath his belt.

Huh, sounds like Presidential material to me. Bush won with a similar, although more sordid background.
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 Helenjw
 
posted on October 21, 2006 06:53:32 AM new

Huh, sounds like Presidential material to me. Bush won with a similar, although more sordid background

Hell, if George Bush is the measure, any warm body will do.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 21, 2006 03:45:50 PM new
dream on helen and profe. lol

Maybe either of you could name us ONE progressive liberal that has been president in our life times????? Neither clinton nor carter were progressives.


progressive = very close to socialist. Nope...don't see that happening in my lifetime.


While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:

What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on October 21, 2006 06:03:50 PM new

Since nothing is happening here....

A poster at OTWA posted information about an interesting series of videos on Frontline about the deteriorating situation in Iraq and it's history...interesting.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/yeariniraq/view/#more

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on October 22, 2006 02:31:32 PM new
Iraq, we can all remember LAIR_K "good news" posts about Iraq. Her posts about Iraq just showed us all how out of touch with blind NEO-CON LIES and GREED the old bat really is.

GO AWAY LIAR_K, I FIND GREEDY,LIARS DISGUSTING.

 
 profe51
 
posted on October 22, 2006 04:06:11 PM new
thanks for that link Helen. Great series of videos.
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 Helenjw
 
posted on October 22, 2006 04:54:44 PM new

You're very welcome, Profe.

The series on torture is interesting also.

The Torture Question


 
 logansdad
 
posted on October 23, 2006 07:43:28 AM new
Indeed, Obama is that oddest of all creatures: a leader who's never led

This bothers you now, but yet we have a commander in chief who has never been in any military conflict.

The Neo-cons are just worried because he has no "dirt" that can be used against him in campaign ads. This country needs some one like Obama. A breath of fresh air that is not corrupt by special interests groups.

Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on October 23, 2006 10:25:48 AM new
Barack Obama rocks!

Wow, if that is who the demomorons are going to get behind, the independents have nothing to worry about.


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"Unfortunately there are levels of Stupid that just can't be cured!!" The new Demomoron motto.
 
 classicrock000
 
posted on October 23, 2006 10:48:08 AM new
Barack Obama rocks!


I thought she was talking about some Saudi Arabian rock band
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If you dont want to hear the truth....dont ask the question.
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 23, 2006 11:12:26 AM new
"This bothers you now, but yet we have a commander in chief who has never been in any military conflict."


Again, logansdad shows his total ignorance on the issue.


There have been a lot of Presidents who never saw conflict. Also who have never even served our Nation. And others that they supported who were COWARDS and draft dodgers.
But now all of a sudden it matters? How funny.



While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:

What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
 
 profe51
 
posted on October 23, 2006 01:06:26 PM new
So there we have a PROGRESSIVE democrat....Obama...that even his OWN party is unsure of.

What a silly thing to say about any candidate. If either the Democrats OR Republicans were SURE of every potential candidate, there'd be no need for primaries, would there? Pick a potential Republican candidate for President Linda, and I'll find you Republicans who are "unsure" of him.

Big Deal.
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 Linda_K
 
posted on October 23, 2006 01:25:10 PM new
profe. I don't think it's silly at all. Sure looks to me like the liberal LA Times article is questioning just what he DOES stand for. Since he hasn't chosen to let voters know where he stands on the hot issues. Makes it appear to me he hasn't had any challenges to his positions....as he doesn't argue for any. He just makes general statements....but no serious position taking. No serious questioning of his platform. No serious positions he's willing to stand up for....as mentioned in the article.

Sure...when they don't really say anything except...lets all work together....LOL...there's noting much to dispute. There will be....I have no doubt about that.




But I see you have totally avoided answering my question. Which progressive has EVER won the WH? NO president was ever a progressive. There's a good reason for that....they're too far left.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:

What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
 
 profe51
 
posted on October 23, 2006 02:58:44 PM new
profe. I don't think it's silly at all.

I do.You missed my point. Of course somebody's questioning him from his own party. Big deal. Anytime somebody from either party starts to hint that they might be thinking of running, the analysis begins, with some questioning the person's background, ability to lead, experience with foreign affairs (that one ring any reminder bells?) etc. You make it look like the Democratic Party somehow disapproves of him or doubts him with your words I quoted above. You're pulling that one out of your hat.

But I see you have totally avoided answering my question.

Wrong again, you didn't ask me a question.
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 colin
 
posted on October 23, 2006 03:23:02 PM new
I heard today that the Democrats were thinking about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama......................We can only hope that's the ticket.



Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
 
 colin
 
posted on October 23, 2006 03:23:11 PM new
I heard today that the Democrats were thinking about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama......................We can only hope that's the ticket.



Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 23, 2006 04:43:08 PM new
really profe????? I sure did.


Linda_K posted on October 21, 2006 03:45:50 PM
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dream on helen and profe. lol

Maybe either of you could name us ONE progressive liberal that has been president in our life times????? Neither clinton nor carter were progressives.


What do you call THAT?

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I agree with Colin....run that ticket PLEASE....lol




While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:

What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
 
 profe51
 
posted on October 23, 2006 08:12:24 PM new
Linda, now that you mention it, I see your question. I'll confess to skimming most of your posts as quickly as I can, lest I have to read too many LOLS.

In response, virtually every historical treatise that deals with progressive presidents includes Lyndon Johnson. Maybe you're a spring chicken, but he was president in MY lifetime. There's my answer to your question. Now of course you'll poo poo his being a progressive, in which case there's nothing else to discuss. A progressive of course is only what YOU say he is, not what actual historians deem him to be. Right?
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Grow your own Dope. Plant a Republican.
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 23, 2006 09:25:43 PM new
LBJ a progressive????

ROFLMHO.....no way.

That's like claiming clinton was a progressive.

How funny profe. You do have a sense of humor after all. LOL LOL LOL


While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:

What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
 
 profe51
 
posted on October 24, 2006 05:43:42 AM new
Just like I said, a progressive can only be a progressive if you deem them so, and for your purposes, nobody who's ever been president has been one.

I guess Medicare, Medicaid, Civil Rights and The Great Society don't count. Neither do the Urban Mass Transportation Act, The Wilderness Act, The Food Stamp Act, The Economic Opportunity Act, The Higher Education Act of 1965, The Social Security Act of 1965, The Voting Rights Act, The Age Discrimination in Employment Act, The Bilingual Education Act, or The Fair housing Act.

LOL me to death darlin'. If Johnson wasn't a progressive in his time, nobody is or ever will be.
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Grow your own Dope. Plant a Republican.
 
 logansdad
 
posted on October 24, 2006 01:22:55 PM new
There have been a lot of Presidents who never saw conflict. Also who have never even served our Nation. And others that they supported who were COWARDS and draft dodgers.

Yes I am quite aware that there were presidents that never had any military experience. I have always maintained the position that the "commander-in-chief" should have some military experience if he/she is going to be making decisions that effect the military.


But now all of a sudden it matters? How funny.

Yes how funny since it was you that made the original comment that it is Obama that has never led. You are such a hypocrite Linda trying to make the point that Obama is not a "leader", but you are OK with a president not having a military leadership background when he is supposed to be the "commander-in-chief".

This only proves you have no common sense what so ever. Continue to live in Pleasantville.



Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on October 24, 2006 02:03:18 PM new

"This only proves you have no common sense what so ever. Continue to live in Pleasantville."


Actually, linda learned how to acquiesce to George Bush in a little Arkansas town called Toad Suck.

It's named after the inhabitants who traditionally "suck up the cool-aid like toads".

 
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