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 carlogrando
 
posted on December 16, 2006 08:08:30 AM new
CAN WE SAY GAWD DAMN HYPOCRITE ON THIS BOARD??

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Bush 'happy' for pregnant Mary Cheney

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Vice President Dick Cheney's pregnant lesbian daughter Mary will make a "fine mom," President Bush said, sidestepping his past comment that a child ideally would be raised by a mother and father.

Mary Cheney, 37, and her longtime partner, Heather Poe, are expecting their first child, which would be the sixth grandchild for the vice president. Cheney was hired last year as an executive for America Online -- whose parent company Time Warner also owns People as well as CNN.

"I think Mary is going to be a loving soul to her child. And I'm happy for her," Bush said in an interview with People magazine.

The Washington Post reported that the baby was due in late spring.

In a 2005 interview with The New York Times, Bush said: "I believe children can receive love from gay couples. But the ideal is -- and studies have shown that --the ideal is where a child is raised in a married family with a man and a woman."

He sidestepped the issue when questioned by People magazine about whether he still held that belief.

"Mary Cheney is going to make a fine mom, and she's going to love this child a lot," he said, according to an excerpt from the interview. During the 2004 campaign, Mary Cheney served as a key aide to her father.

White House spokesman Tony Snow said Bush stood by his belief about a mother and father but also believes that "every human life is sacred and that every child that comes into this world deserves love and he believes that Mary Cheney's child will in fact have loving parents."

Bush has supported a constitutional ban on same-sex marriages, but Congress failed to pass it. The vice president's daughter opposed the measure.

Cheney's pregnancy has drawn fire from some conservatives, including James Dobson, chairman of the Focus on the Family lobbying group, who has clashed with the Bush administration in the past.

"We should not enter into yet another untested and far-reaching social experiment, this one driven by the desires of same-sex couples to bear and raise children," Dobson said in a recent commentary published on the organization's Web site.

However, he said his position was not meant to "harm or insult women such as Cheney and Poe."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/15/bush.cheney.reut/index.html

 
 mingotree
 
posted on December 16, 2006 08:12:56 AM new





FLIP FLOP !!!

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on December 16, 2006 08:59:31 AM new
Bushy and his gang are all a bunch of PHONIES and CROOKS we all heard their gay bashing just look at how many are setting in Jail or are headed there.

They tricked good God fearing Americans into believing they were Christians for their vote only. These bastards only really care about one thing and that is the God they call The Almighty Dollar.

When Bushy is sent to jail for his WAR crimes he should do his time here in Pennsylvania. My Kid is in charge of prisoners on a work release program. Bushy can work at a State Park here cleaning up leaves,cutting up dead trees etc. That kind of work should be right up Bushy's alley because he sure as heck can't run a country.

 
 carlogrando
 
posted on December 16, 2006 09:14:23 AM new
bigpeepa

I think it is more than that.

Look at whose kid is involved, Vice President Cheney's daughter.

Status overcomes a moral issue for the jerk.

Look at Foley, status and political alliance overcame the moral issues of his being gay and child abuse, UNTIL it was no longer politically rewarding and expedient to do so.

Different criteria and standards for different people, depending on who they are and what they can do for you or against you.

Now that is Neo Con Republican values at it's best.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 16, 2006 09:18:34 AM new
LOL...

guess SOME can't understand that a person who doesn't approve of that lifestyle CAN be happy for someone they truly care about.

It's not all black and white and it sure doesn't make him a hypocrite.


 
 carlogrando
 
posted on December 16, 2006 09:22:54 AM new
Linda said;

"guess SOME can't understand that a person who doesn't approve of that lifestyle CAN be happy for someone they truly care about."

AND

Carlogrando said previously;

"Different criteria and standards for different people, depending on who they are and what they can do for you or against you."

OK, works for me! Just like I said, different standards for different people.

Yea, THAT MEANS HYPOCRITE!

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on December 16, 2006 09:25:11 AM new
from this mornings assoc. press:


Bush was asked about Mary Cheney's pregnancy in light of his previous statements that a child ideally should be raised by in a family headed by a married father and mother.


White House press secretary Tony Snow said on Friday that Bush has not changed his mind. "But he also believes that every human life is sacred and that every child who comes into this world deserves love," Snow said. "And he believes that Mary Cheney's child will, in fact, have loving parents."



 
 mingotree
 
posted on December 16, 2006 09:25:39 AM new
Ya, Carlo, I guess it wasn't technically a "flip-flop" because the ultra wealthy always have a different standard for themselves than they do for the "huddling masses".

So I won't add it to the extremely loooooonnnngggg list of bushy's other flip-flops.

 
 carlogrando
 
posted on December 16, 2006 09:29:56 AM new
Linda quoting PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH;

"And he believes that Mary Cheney's child will, in fact, have loving parents."



Really, so he wants the child to be illegitimate since he opposes gay marriage? He states that traditional hetrosexual marriage is the cornerstone foundation of our society, but he believes that TWO LESBIANS will be "loving parents."

Very confusing.

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on December 16, 2006 09:30:32 AM new
Very very funny Liar_k your last post is without a doubt A big FLOP/SPLASH of BULL ROAR.

So now new-cons like you aren't flip flopping any longer you are now FLOP/SPLASHING in your BULL ROAR.

Hey mingo you have got to be cracking up over this last post from the beast.

 
 mingotree
 
posted on December 16, 2006 09:35:41 AM new
""FLOP/SPLASH of BULL ROAR""

Good one, Bigpeepa, really sums it up!


The sound of a cow leaving a patty behind.....
[ edited by mingotree on Dec 16, 2006 09:41 AM ]
 
 carlogrando
 
posted on December 16, 2006 09:41:09 AM new
I thought Neo Con Republican values were God, Home, Man and Woman, Husband and Wife, rockbed solid "Gimme that ole time religion" kind of stuff?

WHAT HAPPEN????????????????????

 
 cblev65252
 
posted on December 16, 2006 01:28:18 PM new
WHAT HAPPEN????????????????????

Flip-flop.


Cheryl

http://www.kcskorner.com
 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on December 16, 2006 02:00:40 PM new
carlogrando said
"Yea, THAT MEANS HYPOCRITE!"

I agree 100% and the new-cons can't flip/splash out of this one with their bull roar.

MINGO said, "the ultra wealthy always have a different standard for themselves than they do for the "huddling masses"."

So true Mingo the Royalty of Europe showed us that with their inbreeding.



 
 logansdad
 
posted on December 18, 2006 12:44:58 PM new
Here is the entire 2005 article:

Published on Saturday, January 29, 2005 by Planet Out
In Interview, Bush Belittles Gay Parents
by Tom Musbach

President Bush angered advocates for LGBT equal rights by suggesting in a Thursday interview with the New York Times that "studies" show children develop better when raised by heterosexual married couples.

The remarks were part of the president's response to a question about the Florida law that bars gay men and lesbians from adopting children. The law -- one of the harshest anti-gay laws in the country -- was recently upheld by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, and this month the Supreme Court refused to hear the challenge on appeal.

Regarding the Florida law, the president responded, "I don't know this particular case."

He continued by focusing on the "ideal in society" of children being raised by a man and a woman. "And I believe children can receive love from gay couples, but the ideal is -- and studies have shown that the ideal is where a child is raised in a married family with a man and a woman."

"It's too bad we don't have an ideal president," said John Marble, spokesman for the National Stonewall Democrats.

"Any law that bars gay Americans from adopting children is morally wrong," he told the PlanetOut Network. "It's disturbing that we have a president who refuses to denounce such a law."

The Human Rights Campaign (HRC), the nation's largest LGBT rights group, objected to the president's lack of knowledge about parenting research.

"Every credible study has shown that sexual orientation has no affect on parenting ability," said HRC Political Director Winnie Stachelberg. "Adoption should be about what's best for the child, not appealing to a political base. The nation's leading child welfare, psychological and children's health organizations agree that gay parents make just as good parents as straight ones."

"With so many children in foster care in need of permanently nurturing homes, it's critically important that we put science before ideology when making family policy decisions," she added.

In a recent study published in the journal Child Development, researchers found that teenagers raised by lesbian couples developed as well as teens raised by opposite-sex couples.

Last December an Arkansas state court overturned a law that banned gay people and anyone living with a gay adult from becoming foster parents. The judge noted in his ruling that being raised by gay or lesbian parents does not increase likelihood of psychological problems, nor does it endanger the health, welfare and safety of a foster child.





If it was another gay or lesbian couple Bush would be saying how wrong it would be for them to raise a child. This is just more spin from the Bush camp.





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