posted on December 26, 2006 11:37:31 AM new
Yep....I was glad to read that his appeals was rejected and that he will be put to death.
There are still two avenues the final decision must go through, according to Iraqi law, before he can be put to death though.
"Under Iraqi law, the appeals court decision must be ratified by President Jalal Talabani and Iraq's two vice presidents."
"Talabani opposes the death penalty but has in the past deputized a vice president to sign an execution order on his behalf _ a substitute that was legally accepted."
"Raed Juhi, a spokesman for the High Tribunal court that convicted Saddam, said the judicial system would ensure that Saddam is executed even if Talabani and the two vice presidents do not ratify the decision."
"We'll implement the verdict by the power of the law," Juhi said. He did not elaborate."
"The appeals court also upheld death sentences for Barzan Ibrahim, Saddam's half brother and intelligence chief during the Dujail killings, and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, head of Iraq's Revolutionary Court, which issued the death sentences against the Dujail residents."
"The appeals court concluded the sentence of life imprisonment given to former vice president Taha Yassin Ramadan was too lenient and returned his file to the High Tribunal. Ramadan was convicted of premeditated murder in the Dujail case."
I personally hope this give some of the families of those who were tortured and murdered by saddam and his sons some closure. I believe it will.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 26, 2006 11:40 AM ]
posted on December 27, 2006 05:41:49 PM new
US Soldiers have mixed feelings over Saddam's execution.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16370290/
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 27, 2006 05:44:49 PM new
Some words of wisdom from a man about to be put to death:
"I call on you not to hate because hate does not leave space for a person to be fair and it makes you blind and closes all doors of thinking,"
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 27, 2006 06:16:02 PM new
Logansdad, if Saddam said that he got smart a little late
Too bad SOME in here can't learn that....""hate does not leave space for a person to be fair and it makes you blind and closes all doors of thinking,"""
posted on December 28, 2006 06:21:05 AM new
The death sentence only serves to make Saddam a matyr and after his execution the Sunni's need for revenge will add to the instability in Iraq. Like Bush, Saddam deserves to be locked up but killing him will be counter productive in any effort to stabilize the country.
posted on December 28, 2006 06:23:58 AM new
Personally I do not think Saddam's execution will help stabilize Iraq and I agree it will make him a martyr.
Just like with the death penalty in the US, I do not think two wrongs make a right - killing an individual that has killed other.
This is does not serve as a deterrent for others.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 28, 2006 11:11:33 PM new
What I don't get is how come Pinochet, Marcos, Baby Doc, Amin, etc., were allowed to live in luxury on tropical islands, yet Saddam is to be executed?
posted on December 29, 2006 06:24:03 AM new
Precedents have been set during the last ten years that would prohibit Saddam guaranteed sanctuary from international law. Besides that, the U.S. would inevitably place ecomonic and political pressure on any country that might offer him refuge.
posted on December 29, 2006 07:06:07 AM new
Civilized people all over the world will see the execution of Saddam Hussein as a miscarriage of justice...just as illegal and immoral as the Bush invasion of Iraq.
posted on December 29, 2006 09:34:04 AM new
Apparently all of you are forgetting that it is the current Legal government of Iraq that will be executing Saddam, not the US. We only made it possible to remove him from power to be tried for killing HIS OWN PEOPLE,
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
[ edited by Bear1949 on Dec 29, 2006 09:36 AM ]
posted on December 29, 2006 09:44:36 AM new
Saddam handed over to Iraqi custody: lawyer
Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:14pm ET143
DUBAI (Reuters) - U.S. officials have transferred former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein to Iraqi custody, the chief defense lawyer told Reuters on Friday in an indication that Saddam's execution may be imminent.
"The American side has notified us that they have handed over the president to the Iraqi authorities," said Khalil al-Dulaimi, head of Saddam's defense team.
"They told us the president is no longer under the authority of the American forces and they requested us not to go to Baghdad," he said.
An appeals court on Tuesday upheld Saddam's November 5 death sentence for crimes against humanity for the killings, torture and other crimes against the Shi'ite population of the town of Dujail.
Although legally in Iraqi custody, U.S. troops had hitherto physically kept guard over Saddam. Although Iraqis will carry out the execution, U.S. and Iraqi officials say, it is likely U.S. forces will stay on hand throughout for fear that opponents of the former leader could turn it into a public spectacle.
posted on December 29, 2006 11:07:36 AM new
The statements in this thread only prove what I have said about these same liberal posters being PRO-saddam supporters.
Their own words show they do support him....side with him ["words of wisdom" ]...and are just oh so willing to forget all those he had murdered [mostly women and CHILDREN]....tortured....with TRUE torture...not the silly humiliation that they have RAGED against.
tsk tsk tsk
Yep....their own statements are what have caused me to say and still to this day believe they have backed saddam over their own country...and many other Nations of the world.
Saddam DESERVES the verdict and penalty that HIS OWN COUNTRYMEN have given him.
Few but the wacko left would disagree with that verdict.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 29, 2006 11:11 AM ]
posted on December 29, 2006 11:34:40 AM new
You gotta love the mentality of the far right.
This quote: "I call on you not to hate because hate does not leave space for a person to be fair and it makes you blind and closes all doors of thinking,"
plus being against the death penalty for all people
equals supporting Saddam and what he did to his people.
Some people continue to believe whatever they want as the truth.
If the Iraqi countrymen felt he deserved death for his deeds,why did they do absolutely nothing prior to the United States capturing him.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 29, 2006 11:52:20 AM new
"""I call on you not to hate because hate does not leave space for a person to be fair and it makes you blind and closes all doors of thinking,""""
Saddam knows linduh!!!!??????
Poor stupid linduh, just like her god, bush, she cannot see the bigger picture, the reactions to actions and how they affect EVERYBODY , not just themselves.....but then when violence escalates after Hussein's execution it ISN'T the bushes or linduh who will pay the price,.... they will delight, as usual, in the death and maimings of OTHERS to follow....
posted on December 29, 2006 11:57:00 AM new
Again....liberals PROVE how twisted their thinking really is.
They speak to ME about hate....but the mass murderers like hitler and saddam they....they give us words of wisdom.
just so it can NEVER be edited or erased:
helenjw said: Civilized people all over the world will see the execution of Saddam Hussein as a miscarriage of justice...just as illegal and immoral as the Bush invasion of Iraq.
cblev65252
posted on December 29, 2006 08:29:36 AM
Helen - I have to agree with you. Just another reason for people in the Middle East to hate the U.S.
Cheryl
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 29, 2006 12:00 PM ]
posted on December 29, 2006 04:09:30 PM newAgain....liberals PROVE how twisted their thinking really is.
Yes the one who thinks:
Liberals are against Bush. Liberals are against the war. Therefore the liberals do not support the troops.
Linda reasoning #2 - Osama attacked American on 9/11. Osama visited Saddam in Iraq. Therefore Saddam has WMD and was part of the 9/11 attacks.
Linda's logic is so much better and thought out. I think Linda is ready to be the next Albert Einstein.
They speak to ME about hate....but the mass murderers like hitler and saddam they....they give us words of wisdom.
The only words of wisdom Linda seems to follow is that from the model citizen herself - Ann Coulter - who is filled with hate and bigotry. I just hope Linda doesn't think Ann Coulter is a better role model than Mother Theresa.
Here are some quotes by the upstanding model citizen herself.
"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."
"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much."
"The swing voters -- I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster."
"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the President."
"It's always so comforting when Muslims cite the precise verse from the Quran that tells them killing is wrong. Don't all empathetic human beings understand that instinctively? What if they lost their Quran that day and couldn't remember?" (Ann Coulter in "My Name Is Adolf", 9/11/2002)
"[Canadians] better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent."
'People like you caused us to lose that war.' - referring to a disable American Veteran who lost 3 limbs in the Vietnam War.
You just got to hand it to Ann Coulter for spreading all that love
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 29, 2006 04:25:13 PM new
Yes, Logansdad, linduh believes all that crap from coulter is good and right! Talk about low moral character!!
posted on December 29, 2006 04:33:23 PM new
Sounds like two hours until Saddam is hung.....linduh will be able to happily celebrate the escalating violence that is sure to ensue.
posted on December 29, 2006 05:04:08 PM new
Celebrating??? No. Just glad to see/hear another mass murderer will be getting what he's long deserved.
Hopefully now those Iraqi's who still feared him coming back into power will find some peace in their lives that they no longer have to EVER worry about him murdering any more masses of people.
logansdad....I can speak for myself...you do such a terrible job of even typing in facts in any of your posts.....speak for yourself.....you certainly don't speak FOR me nor my positions on anything nor anyone.
But you already knew that. It's just so hard for you to speak for yourself....you have to bring me into every post you make here.
How pathetic for you that you need someone to make lies up about.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on December 29, 2006 05:27:07 PM newHow pathetic for you that you need someone to make lies up about.
The truth hurts Linda doesn't it. There is no need to make up lies about you. Everyone on this board knows where you stand about issues and what you have said in the past. The only person lying on this board, IS YOU. You can't not handle the truth so you lie to yourself about reality. Continue to live in your fantasy world, one day your fantasies will come true.
Continue to stand by your IDOL and promote your hate. You are not fooling anyone with your statements here.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
With U.S. forces on high alert for a surge in violence, people registered to attend the hanging gathered Friday in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone before they were to go to the execution site, a senior Iraqi government official said on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media.
Those cleared to attend the execution included a Muslim cleric, lawmakers, senior officials and relatives of victims of Saddam's brutal rule, the official said. Aides to Prime Minister Nouri al- Maliki were waiting for U.S. representatives to arrive at his office to set the hour for the execution, the official said.
He did not disclose the location of the gallows.
Haddad said he was ready to attend the hanging.
"Saddam will be executed today or tomorrow," Haddad said. "All the measures have been done. ... There is no reason for delays."
The physical transfer of Saddam from U.S. to Iraqi authorities was believed to be one of the last steps before he was to be hanged.
"We have agreed with the Americans that the handover will take place only a few minutes before he is executed," the official said.
Al-Nauimi said U.S. authorities were maintaining physical custody of Saddam to prevent him from being humiliated before his execution.
He said the Americans also want to prevent the mutilation of his corpse, as has happened to other deposed Iraqi leaders.
"The Americans want him to be hanged respectfully," al-Nauimi said. If Saddam is humiliated publicly or his corpse ill-treated "that could cause an uprising and the Americans would be blamed," he said.
Saddam's lawyers issued a statement Friday calling on "everybody to do everything to stop this unfair execution."
The statement also said the former president had been transferred from U.S. custody, though American and Iraqi officials later denied that.
Al-Maliki said opposing Saddam's execution was an insult to his victims.
His office said he made the remarks in a meeting with families of people who died during Saddam's rule.
"Our respect for human rights requires us to execute him, and there will be no review or delay in carrying out the sentence," al-Maliki said.
Saddam has been in U.S. custody since he was captured in December 2003.
Tom Casey, deputy spokesman at the State Department, said Friday afternoon that Saddam remained in American hands. In Baghdad, an Iraqi government official who refused to be identified by name because he was not authorized to release the information said authorities there were not yet in control of Saddam.
On Thursday, two half brothers visited Saddam in his cell, a member of the former dictator's defense team, Badee Izzat Aref, told The Associated Press by telephone from the United Arab Emirates.
He said the former dictator handed them his personal belongings.
A senior official at the Iraqi defense ministry also confirmed the meeting and said Saddam gave his will to one of his half brothers.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.
Saddam's lawyers later issued a statement saying the Americans gave permission for his belongings to be retrieved.
Raed Juhi, spokesman for the High Tribunal court that convicted Saddam, said documents related to the execution, including the "red card," al-Maliki's signed approval of the sentence and the appeal court's decision would be read to Saddam before the execution.
An Iraqi appeals court upheld Saddam's death sentence Tuesday for the killing of 148 people who were detained after an attempt to assassinate him in the northern Iraqi city of Dujail in 1982. The court said the former president should be hanged within 30 days.
There had been disagreements among Iraqi officials in recent days as to whether Iraqi law dictates the execution must take place within 30 days and whether President Jalal Talabani and his two deputies have to approve it.
In his Friday sermon, a mosque preacher in the Shiite holy city of Najaf called Saddam's execution "God's gift to Iraqis."
"Oh, God, you know what Saddam has done! He killed millions of Iraqis in prisons, in wars with neighboring countries and he is responsible for mass graves," said Sheik Sadralddin al-Qubanji, a member of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, known as SCIRI, a dominant party in al-Maliki's coalition. "Oh God, we ask you to take revenge on Saddam."
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Associated Press writer Matt Apuzzo contributed to this story from Washington.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 29, 2006 05:43 PM ]
posted on December 29, 2006 05:55:02 PM new
I have seen you quote Ann Coulter, including your signature line, which indicates to me that you have some regard for her. Logansdad was just posting some of Coulter's quotes--maybe to demonstrate the mindset of someone you obviously respect. That is NOT delusional on his part.
posted on December 29, 2006 06:02:09 PM new
coincoach....I'm beginning to see you are just another busybody here. Always posting OFF topic and directing your anger towards me.
Try to regain some control over yourself. Neither you nor logansdad could EVER quote me on any of the things he says about me....why???? because they are ALWAYS FALSE.
Can you grasp that? If you don't know about the board history here...then maybe you should just STAY OUT OF IT AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
Otherwise you'll be see just as all the other busybodies are....butting in OFF TOPIC all the time.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on December 29, 2006 06:21:59 PM newcoincoach....I'm beginning to see you are just another busybody here. Always posting OFF topic and directing your anger towards me.
Anger? I don't see any anger from Coincoach.
Can you grasp that? If you don't know about the board history here...then maybe you should just STAY OUT OF IT AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
You don't rule this board, Linda_K. Coincoach has been here for quite awhile. Anyone can come here and post what they wish, freedom of speech and all.
But then again if you don't approve of others having the right to speak their mind you can always whine and tattle to Vendio, EH?
posted on December 29, 2006 06:26:03 PM new
Oh and we see now the QUEEN busybody arrives.
To add to the discussion of the topic???? Nope....rarely does she do that.
She comes in to get personal....which it now appears she is supporting other posters of doing. LOL LOL LOL LOL
coincoach as CLAIMED she doesn't know the board history here. So then I took that to mean she's not aware that both mingo and logans have a HABITUAL HABIT of making up things about me.
LYING I call it. But then YOU defend that too. LOL LOL LOL
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on December 29, 2006 06:33:26 PM new
Don't worry your head over how I choose to post, Linda_K because you have no control over it except you can put me on ignore or tattle to Vendio.
Ann Coulter is a known slut and she is your idol. If it makes you happy to emulate her that's fine by me.
