posted on February 18, 2007 02:10:01 PM new
and give aid to the terrorists. Now shes wanting the US to give in to the will of terrorism. And you demos want this traitress *itch as president?
Clinton urges start of Iraq pullout in 90 days
Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:32pm ET140
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By Jim Wolf
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the early front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, has called for a 90-day deadline to start pulling American troops from Iraq.
Clinton, the wife of former President Bill Clinton, has been criticized by some Democrats for supporting authorization of the war in 2002 and for not renouncing her vote as she seeks the U.S. presidency in next year's election.
"Now it's time to say the redeployment should start in 90 days or the Congress will revoke authorization for this war," the New York senator said in a video on her campaign Web site, repeating a point included in a bill she introduced on Friday.
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In October 2002, Congress authorized President George W. Bush to take military action in Iraq before the U.S.-led invasion of March 2003.
Republicans blocked the Senate on Saturday from considering a nonbinding measure, adopted on Friday by the House of Representatives, denouncing Bush's decision to send another 21,500 U.S. troops to Iraq.
In offering what she called a roadmap out of Iraq, Clinton said a visit there last month had made her more determined to start what she called a long overdue withdrawal.
Clinton's bill would cap the number of troops in Iraq at the January 1 level, prior to Bush's decision to add 21,500 to the approximately 130,000 soldiers already there.
The buildup is part of a push to quell growing sectarian violence but comes as opinion polls show the majority of Americans disapprove of Bush's decision to send more troops.
Clinton's bill would require congressional authorization to exceed her proposed cap on U.S. soldiers in Iraq.
Bush, announcing the troop increase on January 11, said stepping back prematurely would collapse the Iraqi government, tear the country apart "and result in mass killings on an unimaginable scale."
"If George Bush doesn't end the war before he leaves office, when I'm president, I will," Clinton said in the video.
Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, another Democratic presidential hopeful, said last week it was unclear how Clinton planned to end the conflict. Obama has called for a phased withdrawal to be wrapped up by the end of March 2008.
At a January 17 news conference after visiting Iraq, Clinton repeated her call for a phased redeployment as a way of pressing the Iraqi government to shoulder more responsibility for security. But she stopped short then of proposing a deadline for doing so.
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged— President Abraham Lincoln
posted on February 18, 2007 04:16:23 PM new
Here the profe's posting like kaira does. Don't need to SAY "ALL" because they'll read it into any statement THEY WANT to add it to.
And I think MOST are aware that hillary IS the dem TOP contender...at least that's what the POLLS they so depend upon say.
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Yes, bear, I agree....ANOTHER liberals who's willing to SELL OUT America.
And here for all this time she DEFENDED her PRO-WAR position....that is UNTIL the polls stated telling her IF she wants the nomination she'd BETTER change with the way the WIND is blowing. tsk tsk tsk
Another example, imo, of one having no backbone to stay committed to what they VOTED TO DO. DEFENDED doing...UNTIL.....
I expect NOTHING different from liberals....
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on February 18, 2007 04:47:11 PM new
Yep....it's all in chosing WHICH way to go to get the MOST votes. tsk tsk tsk
screw our security....screw EVERYTHING except that she decide which way is MOST politically expedient for HER to win. It's NOT about what's best for America...it's all about what's best for hillary.
At the same time, the level of Democratic anger has surprised some of her allies and advisers, and her campaign is worried about how long it will last and how much damage it might cause her.
"Some of her many advisers think she should've uttered the three magic words — 'I was wrong' — but she believes it's self-evident that the Senate Iraq resolution was based on false intelligence and never should've come to a vote," said Richard C. Holbrooke, the former United Nations ambassador and an adviser to Mrs. Clinton on foreign policy.
Navigating the antiwar anger, and toughing it out for 11 months until the primaries, is now perhaps Mrs. Clinton's biggest political challenge.
Indeed, in many ways at this stage, Iraq has overtaken her and other candidates' campaigns, as was evident yesterday as she rearranged her schedule to appear briefly in New Hampshire before returning to the Senate for a debate on Mr. Bush's war strategy.
The campaign began a push yesterday to deal with its Iraq challenge. Besides her remarks in New Hampshire, Mrs. Clinton submitted a bill in the Senate to block sending more troops to Iraq, though she would not cut off financing.
In a new video on her Web site, she called for starting to redeploy troops within 90 days — or else, she threatened, Congress should revoke authorization for the war.
"She is in a box now on her Iraq vote, but she doesn't want to be in a different, even worse box — the vacillating, flip-flopping Democratic candidate that went to defeat in 2000 and '04," said one adviser to Mrs. Clinton.
"She wants to maintain a firmness, and I think a lot of people around her hope she maintains a firmness. That's what people will want in 2008."
Indeed, Mrs. Clinton believes that reversing course on her vote would invite the charge of flip-flopping that damaged Mr. Kerry or provoke the kind of accusations of political expediency that hung over Al Gore in 2000 and her and her husband, President Bill Clinton, in the 1990s, several advisers said.
She has argued to associates in private discussions that Mr. Gore and Mr. Kerry lost, in part, because they could not convince enough Americans that they were resolute on national security, the associates said.
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She might not want to be seen as ANOTHER flip-flopper....but imo, she HAS flip-flopped already.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Feb 18, 2007 05:01 PM ]
posted on February 19, 2007 08:11:38 AM new
Prof, you are the exception.
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged— President Abraham Lincoln
posted on February 19, 2007 10:31:23 AM new
""""Yep....it's all in chosing WHICH way to go to get the MOST votes. tsk tsk tsk
screw our security....screw EVERYTHING except that she decide which way is MOST politically expedient for HER to win. It's NOT about what's best for America...it's all about what's best for """ them
Anyone running for any office does exactly the same thing ....bush did it all too well...
posted on February 19, 2007 11:02:51 AM new
I think MOST know, sybil, that I'm speaking about the WAR....
And this President has stood his ground in what he believes was needed and he still wants to reach that goal.
So unlike all the dem flip-floppers who don't have the courage of their convictions....nope...their personal political GAIN is more important. tsk tsk tsk
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on February 19, 2007 12:35:32 PM new"um...hey hwahwa, she's not a state senator."
I agree she is a U.S. senator. She is not a senator in the NY state legislature.
There is a difference between the two.
IT LOOKS LIKE LINDA IS WRONG WRONG WRONG ONCE AGAIN.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on Feb 19, 2007 05:08 PM ]
posted on February 19, 2007 01:15:13 PM new
More Clinton Lies from the Right.
O'Reilly and Miller recycled false attack on Clinton's attendance at 9-11 memorials
On the February 14 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly and Fox News contributor Dennis Miller recycled the myth propagated by O'Reilly that, in the words of Miller, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) "did not attend one" of the "memorial services for the 9-11 people." O'Reilly responded that Miller's claim "is correct." In fact, as Media Matters for America has noted, Clinton attended several funerals and memorials, including one for 79 restaurant employees who died in the September 11, 2001, attacks. Miller purported to contrast Clinton with former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who, Miller said, attended "like hundreds and hundreds of them." Miller added: "Well, listen, if they get in a debate, you don't even have to have them talk. Just put that up, number of the memorial services attended. If that doesn't tell you everything about these two people, about talking about commitment versus real commitment, I don't know what does."
Since his original attack on Clinton on the November 27, 2001, edition of The O'Reilly Factor, in which O'Reilly complained that "the only events we know she attended were three highly publicized memorial services," O'Reilly has regularly summarized the controversy by explaining simply that "Hillary Clinton didn't go to one funeral or one memorial service of any of the regular folks killed at the World Trade Center, even though she's a senator of New York" [The O'Reilly Factor, 5/13/02]. On the February 14 broadcast, O'Reilly went a step further, agreeing with Miller's false claim that: "The Factor d[id] some research back then that Hillary Clinton did not attend one" memorial service. O'Reilly falsely responded, "That is correct."
In fact, Clinton delivered a eulogy at a memorial for 79 employees of the rooftop restaurant on World Trade Center Tower One, according to an article in the October 2, 2001, New York Daily News. She also attended a memorial for Rev. Mychal Judge, chaplain of the New York Fire Department, whom she had met at a White House prayer breakfast. On the January 17, 2002, edition of CNN's Greenfield at Large, Clinton stated, "I also have visited in the hospital one victim and met with many, many, many other victims who were either out of the hospital or who lost a loved one."
From the February 14 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
MILLER: Bill, I want to ask you something real quick.
O'REILLY: Sure, sure.
MILLER: Because you can help me here as far as Rudy goes. I like the fact that he was a U.S. attorney. I think dealing with the mafia he knows the way around punks. You know, he knows how to deal with bullies.
But tell me this. I always liked the way Rudy stepped up to the memorial services for the 9-11 people. Didn't he attend like hundreds and hundreds of them? And didn't, in fact, the Factor do some research back then that Hillary Clinton did not attend one?
O'REILLY: That is correct.
MILLER: Well, listen, if they get in a debate, you don't even have to have them talk. Just put that up, number of the memorial services attended. If that doesn't tell you everything about these two people, about talking about commitment versus real commitment, I don't know what does.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on February 19, 2007 01:18:25 PM new
It doesn't bother you that some Republicans have been calling for a troop pull out since last year
Hagel: U.S. should pull out of 'mismanaged' Iraq
POSTED: 7:31 a.m. EST, November 27, 2006
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A leading Republican senator called Sunday for American troops to begin withdrawing from Iraq, declaring that a U.S. pullout is needed to head off "impending disaster" in the nearly 4-year-old war.
"There will be no victory or defeat for the United States in Iraq," Sen. Chuck Hagel wrote in Sunday's edition of The Washington Post.
Instead, he said, President Bush should use the upcoming report from a bipartisan panel led by former Secretary of State James Baker to begin laying the groundwork for a "phased withdrawal" of U.S. troops.
"If the president fails to build a bipartisan foundation for an exit strategy, America will pay a high price for this blunder -- one that we will have difficulty recovering from in the years ahead," Hagel wrote.
"To squander this moment would be to squander future possibilities for the Middle East and the world. That is what is at stake over the next few months."
Hagel, of Nebraska, served in Vietnam as an infantry sergeant and is now the second-ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Though he voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq, he has been an increasingly outspoken critic of the administration's management of the conflict. (Watch what's happening in Iraq on the eve of Bush's Jordan visit )
In Sunday editions of the newspaper, he wrote that the U.S. "misunderstood, misread, misplanned and mismanaged our honorable intentions in Iraq with an arrogant self-delusion reminiscent of Vietnam."
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on February 19, 2007 01:29:32 PM new
I don't want Hillary as our candidate. I think there are too many backward people in the U.S. that still thinks a woman shouldn't be President. Just look at the new-cons on this board to prove my point.
On the positive side if Hillary is President then Bill can travel the world and repair the damage BUSHY has done to our foreign policies.
Bear is now quoting a non quoit from Abraham Lincoln. LOL The poor guy like his step Mother LIAR_K just can't differentiate truth from fiction any longer.
"There are some who, uh, feel like that, you know, the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is: Bring 'em on. We got the force necessary to deal with the security situation." - George W. Bush, July 2, 2003.
Into the 4th year with 3140 dead American troops. BUSHY's is still saying "Bring 'em on".
In just a "comma in time" again a quoit from Bushy, BUSHY will be retired to his Texass ranch living in the DISGRACE of a failed Presidency.
Once again Sheepa, if Billary had had the balls to stand up to terrorist during HIS term, Bush woouldnt have had to go as far as he has.
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged— President Abraham Lincoln
posted on February 19, 2007 05:35:23 PM new
Remember what I told you about LIAR_K being a hypocrite here is proof in her own words?
In her own words see below what a LIAR hypocrite LIAR_K is about the Democrats and BUSHY's Iraq Civil War.
LIAR_K said these words below about the Democrats.
posted on February 13, 2007 12:14:22 PM
"Yep....more voters who THOUGHT the dem party would STOP THE WAR....WITHDRAW OUR TROOPS.....are STILL disappointed about the INACTION of THEIR Congress - both the HOUSE and the SENATE."
"First the senate....now the house."
"Just like I've stated over and over.....the NO GUTS dem party isn't giving them what they WANT."
NOW LIAR_K SAYS 6 DAYS LATER THE WORDS BELOW WHEN HILLARY IS GETTING READY TO INTRODUCE A BILL THAT SAYS START WITHDRAWING TROOPS FROM IRAQ IN 90 DAYS.
posted on February 18, 2007 04:47:11 PM
"Now shes (Hillary) wanting the US to give in to the will of terrorism. And you demos want this traitress *itch as president?
LIAR_K went on to say this about Hillary's bill to start removing troops from Iraq in 90 days.
"screw our security....screw EVERYTHING except that she (Hillary) decide which way is MOST politically expedient for HER to win. It's NOT about what's best for America...it's all about what's best for Hillary."
Hey LIAR_K did you ever think Hillary is doing what the people voted for? I am very glad to expose your LYING Un-American ways again. YES!!!
