posted on August 5, 2007 02:30:47 PM new
This is funny. They've FINALLY become aware that while the radical left, the hillary liberals have TALKED a good talk...they aren't walking the walk.
And they want the dem party candidates to not ONLY speak about gay issues when they're in front of gay groups....but rather in their speeches everywhere. lol
Hey, even I support them doing just that.
All democratic leaders need to make ALL voters aware of the ways in which they support the gay agenda/lifestyles.
Wonder why they haven't been doing so? lol lol lol
"More problems for Hillary Clinton. The head of New York state's leading gay rights group describes Hillary Clinton as a disappointment on samesex marriage. Today, her husband bill described her as a disappointment on opposite sex marriage."
posted on August 9, 2007 06:12:59 AM new
Ah.....my question has been answered.
Gay endorsements have scant impact on U.S. voters
Wed Aug 8, 2007 11:29AM EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - It does not matter to most voters in three key U.S. states whether a presidential candidate has the backing of gay rights groups, according to a new poll on Wednesday.
Ahead of a Thursday night debate for Democrats in Los Angeles devoted to gay issues, Quinnipiac University's Swing State Poll asked about the impact of campaign endorsements by gay groups on voters in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
In Ohio, 54 percent say such endorsements make no difference, while 34 percent said it would make them less likely to support a candidate and 10 percent said it would make them more likely to back a campaign.
The numbers were similar for Pennsylvania and Florida.
At the same time an endorsement by a labor union was an overall positive in all three states.
"Being perceived as the candidate of gay rights turns off more voters than it attracts, although in general being considered the candidate of a special interest group seems to be a political loser," said Peter Brown, assistant director of Quinnipiac's polling unit.
posted on August 9, 2007 08:05:58 AM new
Hey linduh, where's your buddies to ask you why you're talking to yourself ???
""It does not matter to most voters in three key U.S. states whether a presidential candidate has the backing of gay rights groups, according to a new poll on Wednesday.""'
So YOU "call the clue phone".
Hahaha! Even YOU prove yourself wrong.
Oh, BTW, it's great to know the Democrats support human and civil rights for ALL Americans...that's as it should be.
"""At the same time an endorsement by a labor union was an overall positive in all three states."""
posted on August 9, 2007 10:39:15 AM new
The gay community is pushing the dem candidates to take stands on their support for gays. And they're saying they're WATCHING how they react to questions of support.
SAN FRANCISCO - The high political anxiety that gay rights can provoke in Democratic presidential aspirants broke out into the open early in this campaign, as the party's two leading candidates both stumbled when asked to give unrehearsed answers on morality and homosexuality.
Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.), both schooled in the politics of home states with influential gay communities, each instinctively dodged in March when first asked to respond to a top military officer who, in justifying the Pentagon's ban on openly gay soldiers, publicly declared homosexuality immoral.
Only after a torrent of criticism from gay donors and supporters over their initial hesitancy did Clinton and Obama come out with unequivocal statements that they consider homosexuality to be moral, repudiating Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
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When Democratic candidates are "asked about gay people and our causes, they freeze up," Foreman said.
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2004 presidential race
Bob Shrum, a media adviser to 2004 Democratic nominee John Kerry, wrote in a recent book that former President Bill Clinton considered the issue so damaging that he urged Kerry to support a federal ban on gay marriage as a way to defuse the matter. Kerry did not do so.
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THIS my fellow voters is liberals showing the COURAGE of their 'so called' convictions.
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 9, 2007 10:46 AM ]
posted on August 9, 2007 11:36:03 AM new
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"Well, if anyone should know vulgarity it's Bill (Sex Predator) O'Reilly !! What a pig!"
Yea Bill O'reilly talks sex on the phone and hes a pig...Bill Clinton gets a blowjob in the oval office and spews his wad on her dress and you thinks its okay...you have to be one of the dumbest c*nts on the planet.
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posted on July 27, 2007 05:44:55 PM
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she is....for SURE.
And now, she's going around pretending that I'm 'talking' to her when I'm not. Just responding to the garbage she continues to post. LOL LOL
That's what SHE believes is someone 'talking' to her. LOL LOL LOL
edited to add: My statement was meant to agree that mingo/sybil is THE stupidest person on the plant. Without the name calling.
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posted on August 10, 2007 07:52:34 AM new
Yep, the dem contenders still feel very uncomfortable TALKING about their positions on gay and lesbian issues. tsk tsk tsk
edwards doesn't feel uncomfortable BEING around gays. LOL LOL LOL Better than his wife who doesn't like being around the 'poor' people her husband supposedly wants to represent IF elected.
Rather than being fully open about THEIR positions....they always resort back to talking about the 'conservatives' position on this issue. So typical. Takes the focus off of them...like no one will notice. Well.....the gay and lesbian groups ARE noticing.
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Sharp Questions for Dems on Gay Issues
Aug 10, 4:19 AM (ET)
MICHAEL R. BLOOD
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Democratic presidential contenders faced pointed questions on gay marriage and the basis for sexual orientation in a forum that forced candidates to confront politically touchy issues that have vexed a nation.
Former Sen. John Edwards found himself discussing whether he is comfortable around gay people - he said he is.
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson appeared to struggle with a question about why people become gay or lesbian.
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton ended up defending the record of her husband, former President Bill Clinton, on gay rights. "We certainly didn't get as much done as I would have liked," the New York senator said. "But there was a lot of honest effort."
Six of the eight Democratic candidates answered questions Thursday on gay rights at the two-hour forum co-sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign, a gay-rights group active in Democratic politics, and Logo, a gay-oriented cable TV channel that aired the forum live.
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The candidates underscored differences with Republicans on gay and lesbian rights, but leading candidates also faced aggressive questioning on their reluctance to embrace marriage for same-sex couples.
All of the Democratic candidates support a federal ban on anti-gay job discrimination, want to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy barring gays from serving openly in the military and support civil unions that would extend marriage-like rights to same-sex couples.
A majority of Americans oppose nationwide recognition of same-sex marriage and only two of the Democrats support it - former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel and Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, both longshots for the nomination.
Barack Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ, which supports gay marriage, but Obama has yet to go that far.
posted on August 10, 2007 08:11:48 AM new
Clinton stated quite clearly she believes in human rights for all Americans and believes gay's civil unions should be recognized as legal marriages.
Ha! Why are YOU so concerned about gays?
To you, they're the "enemy", more Americans for you to hate.... and are out to GET YOU!!!!!.
""At the same time an endorsement by a labor union was an overall positive in all three states.""
posted on August 10, 2007 08:17:54 AM new
Again, sybil speaks FOR my positions.
And again, she is WRONG. LYING again. tsk tsk tsk
"To you, they're the "enemy",
So others understand, they aren't my enemies. I, like the MAJORITY of Americans do NOT support gay marriage. Just like MOST of the liberal/dem candidates for '08 DON'T either.
And that doesn't make ME think they HATE gays. LOL LOL
posted on August 10, 2007 08:26:31 AM new
So that's ONE of her problems. She was having one of her many 'episodes' in all of the threads yesterday. Totally out of control....acting in an irrational manner .... this is, after all, JUST a chat board.
She just can't control her emotions/actions. So she acts out.
But that may have also contributed to her emotional upset. Thanks for making me aware of that change in your state government.
posted on August 10, 2007 09:39:06 AM new
As usual, linduh just can't quit concentrating on ME!
Such an obsession...TSK TSK TSK !!
But she was having one of her many 'episodes' in all of the threads yesterday. Totally out of control...posting new topics in vast numbers....desperate for attention.....
posted on August 10, 2007 10:27:39 AM new
MORE delusion on sybil's part. As I post about gay issue and the dem party's positions, or any other subject.....mingo continues to run right behind me THROWING herself and her constant VOMIT into EVERY topic.
Her obsession knows no limits.
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Appears the dem candidates SAY they support civil unions...NOT gay marriage. Heck some even supported/voted FOR DOMA. And DOMA acknowledges that a 'marriage' is only between one man and one woman.
factcheck.org notes the legal differences between what the DEMS do and DON'T support.
Now, why would the left ONLY focus and blame the righties for being AGAINST gay marriages...when NONE of their leading candidates support it either?
posted on August 10, 2007 12:22:48 PM new
Linda_K
posted on August 10, 2007 10:27:39 AM
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MORE delusion on sybil's part """
W H O ' S
delusional?
I know that Alzheimer's a drag but , linduh , you actually don't remember all those threads you started ? !!!!???
posted on August 10, 2007 12:51:58 PM newNow, why would the left ONLY focus and blame the righties for being AGAINST gay marriages...when NONE of their leading candidates support it either?
Just like Linda keeps saying it is only those on the left that are against the war ignoring that there are some Republicans speaking out against Bush and his war.
So Linda why don't you post some the responses from any of the Republican candidates that were in the "gay debate". Oh that is right, none of them even bothered to show up. I guess that shows you how much the Republicans care about any gay issue. I wonder what the Log Cabin Republicans think about this.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
Are YOU a Bunghole?
Her obsession knows no limits.