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 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 20, 2008 06:29:39 PM new
Now that it's clear Iran isn't making nuclear weapons, what does that say about US intelligence? What's really going on with all this made up stuff?

 
 mingotree
 
posted on February 20, 2008 11:46:05 PM new
Before the Iraq war, which was planned BEFORE 9/11, the powers behind the bushit throne had a plan....it included Iraq, Iran, and Syria.

OK,that's probably why Valerie Plame was outed by the bush administration (an act of treason)....she was deep into spying on Iran's nuclear capabilities....they didn't WANT the truth to come out. So they have some other plan for Iran....maybe it's just as simple as making more money on wars...their favorite pastime.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on February 21, 2008 06:18:51 AM new
"Now that it's clear Iran isn't making nuclear weapons, what does that say about US intelligence? What's really going on with all this made up stuff?"


PINR explains that although Iran suspended its uranium enrichment program temporarily it does not mean that the intent to acquire nuclear weapons is shelved. The suspension simply allows the nuclear research program to continue ostensibly for civilian purposes. Sometime in the future they could quickly change focus to produce weapons instead and become a nuclear-armed state.

From PINR (Power and Interest Report)
09 December 2007
''Intelligence Brief: NIE Report on Iran's Nuclear Weapons Program''

The latest U.S. National Intelligence Estimate, released on December 3, confirmed PINR's analyses from 2003 that Iran was likely seeking to acquire nuclear weapons. As PINR stated in 2003, Iran's interest in acquiring nuclear weapons lies in its goal of becoming the dominant state in the Middle East. By gaining a nuclear capability, Iran would have more leverage when dealing with rival countries, such as the United States, Israel and, previously, Iraq. Nuclear weapons would help to solidify regime survival in Tehran, and prevent outside states, such as Israel, from responding effectively to Iranian encroachment in the region.

The NIE, however, also provided information that somewhat contrasted with PINR's 2003 analyses. PINR assessed that the U.S. interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan would hasten Iran's attempts to acquire nuclear weapons, since Tehran would consider itself at an increased threat of a U.S. attack and would want to demonstrate itself as a nuclear power to ward off U.S. attempts at "regime change," one of the Bush administration's policies at the time.

Instead, if the intelligence of the NIE is correct, it demonstrates that Iran halted its program in 2003, likely because it perceived a U.S. attack highly probable and did not want to provide Washington with evidence of a nuclear weapon gambit. Furthermore, in 2003 and early 2004, the situation in Iraq was still relatively stable, and Tehran probably perceived a U.S. attack on its nuclear facilities or government a possibility.

Despite these developments, it is clear that Iran has not shelved its goal of acquiring nuclear weapons. In fact, Tehran may be waiting for an outcome in the Iraq and Afghanistan interventions before deciding on whether to continue its weapons program.

In fact, as PINR stated in October 2003 after Iran responded to international pressure and suspended its uranium enrichment program temporarily, suspending its weapons program does not mean that the country will be unable to acquire nuclear weapons; instead, it allows it to continue upon a nuclear research program, ostensibly for civilian purposes, and at a certain point in the future "could quickly weaponize its nuclear energy program and become a nuclear-armed state." In similar language, the NIE found that "Iranian entities are continuing to develop a range of technical capabilities that could be applied to producing nuclear weapons, if a decision is made to do so."






 
 logansdad
 
posted on February 21, 2008 11:24:42 AM new
Kraft, glad you are questioning this. I often wondered the same thing when the US was so wrong with all the data on Iraq.

It makes you wonder what other intelligence the US has that is also wrong.

The US was wrong about Iraq. How did this happen? How could this country be wrong for 8+ years?

I doubt anyone is really looking into this problem in order to prevent this from happening again.




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