posted on May 7, 2008 02:03:19 PM new
Isn't that ghoul from Austria your worst nightmare? He's the guy that kept his daughter and children in the basement for 24 years. What should be done with him or others like him?
posted on May 7, 2008 02:19:58 PM new
Did they say why he kept her there for 24 years?
There is a German movie ,a true story of a man who was kept in a basement since he was born and one day he just showed up in the town square.
posted on May 7, 2008 08:59:44 PM new
I'm not a big tv watcher so I haven't seen much else lately on the story, hwahwa, but when I saw his mug on tv, I just about got sick. He looks like one of those Nazi creeps to me. I heard that the children are vegatables.
posted on May 8, 2008 12:43:32 PM newI heard that the children are vegatables.
I am not sure this is entirely true (I haven't heard it), but they never saw the light of day and were never educated so, they might be able to be taught. Horrible situation, I hope the man gets everything he deserves and more.
posted on May 8, 2008 09:46:58 PM new
I thought I heard it said that he kept his daughter in the basement and fathered 7 children with her--that these are the children found in the basement with her. Horrible.
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posted on May 9, 2008 03:21:30 AM new
I missed this atory while I was visiting my mother but Googled and caught up .
What a monster#! His wife of 50+ years and other two children knew nothing about it!
Three of the children he fathered were allowed to come above and live with the man and his wife (he said that daughter left them on the door step with a note). The other three children (evidently an infant died) stayed in the basement room their WHOLE lives (19 year old girl, 17 year old boy and 5 year old boy). They did have a tv in the basement. I don't think the children were vegetables - in fact it seems that the basement children got along well with the upstairs siblings when they met.
SICK SICK SICK
The now 42 year daughter agreed to tell the story when authorities assured she would not have to see her father again and her children were safe. Her father knocked her out, tied her hands and then dragged her down to this special windowless, insulated 100 sq ft basement chamber he built. He had been sexually abusing the daughter since she was 11 years old.
I hope they lock that monster up in a smaller chamber and throw away the key. I don't think they have the death penalty in Austria.
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VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- The man accused of imprisoning his daughter for 24 years and fathering her seven children said that he knew his actions were wrong and that he "must have been crazy," according to comments published Thursday.
Josef Fritzl also said in remarks relayed by his lawyer to the Austrian magazine News that he tried to care for his secret family members, taking flowers, books and stuffed toys to them in the dingy dungeon below his home in the town of Amstetten.
The lawyer, Rudolf Mayer, confirmed that Fritzl made the remarks from a prison in the city of St. Poelten, where he is being held in pretrial detention.
"I constantly knew, over the entire 24 years, that what I did was not right, that I must have been crazy because I did something like this," Fritzl was quoted as saying.
The case came to light last month, and 73-year-old Fritzl has since confessed to locking up his daughter Elisabeth in 1984, repeatedly raping her and fathering her seven children. Fritzl met for the first time with a prosecutor Wednesday.
"I tried as best I could to care for my family in the cellar," Fritzl said in the published comments.
"When I went into the bunker, I brought my daughter flowers and my children books and stuffed animals," Fritzl said, adding that he would watch adventure videos with the children while Elisabeth cooked their favorite meals.
"And then we'd all sit at the kitchen table and eat together," he said.
Fritzl's double life began to disintegrate when Elisabeth's oldest child, a 19-year-old woman, was hospitalized with a severe infection in Amstetten, west of Vienna.
Unable to find medical records for the woman, doctors appealed on TV for her mother to come forward. Fritzl accompanied Elisabeth to the hospital April 26.
He told police that he had fathered seven children with Elisabeth: three kept in the cellar all their lives, one adopted by him and his wife, two raised in the couple's custody and one who died as an infant.
In other comments published by News, Fritzl said that he grew up an only child in "humble circumstances" and that his mother, whom he "admired very much," threw his father out of the house when he was 4.
"She was the boss at home and I the only man in the house," Fritzl said of his mother.
Fritzl also said that he considered good behavior and decency important and that Elisabeth had stopped following rules when she hit puberty.
After locking her up, Fritzl said, he repeatedly thought about letting her go but was scared about being arrested and having people find out what he had done.
"With every week that I held my daughter, my situation got crazier. ... It's true; I thought repeatedly about whether I should let her go or not," he said.
Fritzl, who always wanted to have a large family, said he was happy about the children Elisabeth bore him. To prepare her for labor, he brought her medical books, towels, disinfectants and diapers, he said.
"Elisabeth was, of course, scared of the delivery," he said.
posted on May 9, 2008 06:55:28 AM new
"Elisabeth was, of course, scared of the delivery," he said.
A bit of an understatement!
After getting over the horror of this story I have to wonder about the logistics. Groceries and flowers to the cellar for 24 years and NO ONE NOTICED? Ate dinner with his downstairs family for 24 years - where did his wife think he was??
What about Pampers or diapers? How did they wash clothes? Where did they get new clothes? How did he get a stove and fridge in the basement with no one noticing? What about garbage? Didn't his wife wonder about the room he was building down there? (City said they inspected it the year before the daughter disappeared). I think his wife had to know about it or perhaps she was an invalid confined to bed with blinders on for 24 years of their 50 year + marriage. BIZARRE!
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He claimed that three of Exizabeth's children were left on the doorstep by Elizabeth who ran off with a cult. So, he was raising children upstairs and downstairs with a "wife" on both levels in a residential community and with an extended family who thought he was a normal family man.
posted on May 9, 2008 06:44:26 PM new
Also the upstair children,dont they explore around the house and find the secret basement?
And how did he take twice as much garbage out without anyone ever wonder ?
And how can a 100 sq ft room fits all of them with kitchen table and stove and fridge?Or is there a fridge?
and are they chained,how does he prevent them from following him upstairs when dinner is finished?
Why cant they just overpower him,there are more of them>
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Lets all stop whining !
posted on May 10, 2008 09:46:36 AM new
He was an electric technician and had the door locked with a keyless lock that only he knew the code to. He also told his daughter that the exit was armed with gas canisters if any of them tried to leave. The basement was sound proof, although a tenant upstairs (yes, they rented rooms out) heard noises from the basement. He was told that it was due to a noisy furnace. The father supposedly built the extension in the basement for a place to design machinery which he sold to companies. His wife was forbidden to even bring him coffee when he retreated.
posted on May 11, 2008 06:48:12 AM new
They showed a program once of a man in PA who would kidnap and imprison young women,his wife was ill for many years and he did not get any sex from her so he came up with this idea.
He even made some home movies of a girl he kept in the basement,the two of them were singing and dancing,I believe he kept her in a chain long enough for her to get to the bathroom,I dont remember how she escaped.
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Lets all stop whining !
