pixiamom
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posted on October 19, 2008 07:47:13 AM
While I don't think candidates' spouses and family should be fair game for the press in an election, the NY Times article on Cindy McCain gives me an enlightened sense of sympathy for her - not because she is a victim of "gutter journalism" as McCain's camp claims, but because of how hard she she tries to please an insensitive, non-cuddly man who has largely ignored her. For those who haven't read the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/18/us/politics/18cindy.html?bl&ex=1224475200&en=12299783805b8c72&ei=5087%0A
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deichen
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posted on October 19, 2008 11:49:51 AM
It doesn't make me feel sorry for her one bit. She made her bed and now she must lay in it.
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cblev65252
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posted on October 19, 2008 11:53:22 AM
I cannot feel sorry for someone who in essence helped break up a marriage. I watched her and how she acted after the second debate. While Obama's wife was shaking hands with people in the audience, Cindy McCain acted as though those people had some kind of disease she might catch should she touch them. She was aware of what she was in for when she went after McCain and if she truly wasn't, shame on her even more. IMHO, their marriage is a sham. I just don't buy that sweet innocent and naive look she has become an expert at.
Pixiamom - You really are a kind soul!
Cheryl
Whitman said she and McCain share a philosophy of scaling back the role of government. a point of view partly shaped by her EBay experience. "The EBay model is very Republican in its essence -- it's about making a small number of rules and getting out of the way while not overtaxing the community," she said.
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pixiamom
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posted on October 19, 2008 12:51:58 PM
Her mother asking the jeweler to pick out something for Cindy's birthday and put John's name on it - keep it at around $5,000 because John isn't rich showed me how out of touch I am with their lifestyle and how out of touch they are with mine. And yes, I do feel sorry for Cindy (poor little rich girl). Carol was the winner.
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roadsmith
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posted on October 19, 2008 01:06:05 PM
I simply don't understand women who stay married to someone like McCain. She could have stayed in Washington, I suppose, and won people over eventually, but she probably has been used to instant admiration and isn't sure how to win friends the long, slow way.
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neglus
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posted on October 19, 2008 01:32:32 PM
That is a sad story. I do sympathize with her. Rich or not, homebreaker or not (it did take two to tango and he was the grown up), she doesn't seem comfortable in her own skin. That lady is never going to be happy and you have to feel a little sorry for her for that.
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profe51
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posted on October 19, 2008 03:05:14 PM
I know a bit about the Hensley family and their beer empire and influence in this state. This is all scripted. I don't feel a bit of sympathy for her.
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Helenjw
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posted on October 19, 2008 04:11:20 PM
She can afford to get rid of him so why feel sorry for her?
As Simon sings, Just slip out the back, Cindy...and set yourself free!
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kiara
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posted on October 19, 2008 04:49:43 PM
After also reading the Rollingstone article on McCain I'm thinking that both him and Cindy are spoiled, privileged brats. Cindy seems like a Stepford wife, just going through the motions, playing a role.
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cblev65252
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posted on October 19, 2008 04:51:54 PM
Good line, Helen. I love that song and now it'll be stuck in my head for the rest of the night.
OT, but I got my first issue of the Philadelphia Trumpet yesterday. If you can look past all the bible references, it's a great magazine for world news. (http://www.thetrumpet.com) The subscription is free. I'm in the middle of a great article about the elections and how whoever wins will be in over his head thanks to the mess we're in right now. I'm amazed that a religious based publication is actually quite unbiased with news reporting.
Pixiamom - I was right in saying you're a kind soul. Nothing wrong with that.
Cheryl
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pixiamom
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posted on October 19, 2008 06:30:35 PM
No, Cheryl. I can be mean. Cindy reminds me very much of the best friend I had when I went to a boarding school in Sweden. The students came from generally wealthy families around the globe (I was on scholarship).
My BF was from one of the wealthiest (if not THE wealthiest) families. She was scholastically and intellectually at the top of the class and, as if God hadn't given her enough, she was absolutely stunning, drop-dead gorgeous.
I wouldn't have traded places with her for anything. Absent, alcoholic parents, raped at age 13 by her Dad's best friend (who her parents had sent her to live with one summer and then raped again by him the the next summer when her parents sent her there again against her protests (she told her Mom she was raped - he mother told her to buck it up)). Oh, and her younger brother was kidnapped the year before. She was gracious, personable with a great amount of wit - yet she had few friends and was not dating. Why? Perhaps she was thought by many to be unapproachable, her timidity may have been interpreted by some as aloofness. But then again, she was an extremely needy soul who really zapped the energy right out of you. I supported her by accompanying her on the train to Stockholm each week to meet with her psychiatrist and then getting properly snockered with her on the ride home.
Where did she end up? I'm afraid I didn't communicate with her but imagine she probably took up with some older married man that reminded her of Daddy.
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Helenjw
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posted on October 19, 2008 07:44:23 PM
That's an interesting story about a poor little rich girl neglected by her parents, sexually abused and emotionally troubled. I would feel some sympathy for her too.
But how does that young girl remind you of Cindy McCain, fifty four years old, financially independent, well educated and professionally successful in organizing emergency medical care to war torn areas throughout the world.
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deichen
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posted on October 19, 2008 09:40:43 PM
I am sorry about your friend, but I do not think that applies to Cindy. She could ditch McCain if she wanted. I agree, she does seem like a Stepford Wife. Still, I have no sympathy for her. There are people out there, who have alot worse problems than hers, ALOT worse.
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on October 20, 2008 04:32:34 AM
Cheryl,
"I just don't buy that sweet innocent and naive look she has become an expert at."
I think Botox is in charge of that face.
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profe51
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posted on October 20, 2008 05:54:50 AM
Gotta be.
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maybedee
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posted on October 20, 2008 06:36:47 AM
To cashinyourcloset... You want to see Botox? Look at Pelosi, her face is almost frozen.<p> To roadsmith.. You don't understand how Cindy could stay married to him? I don't understand how Hillary could stay married to Bill.
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neglus
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posted on October 20, 2008 07:17:27 AM
I feel sorry for a lot of people who don't deserve my sympathy. I felt sorry for Andrea Yates (the lady who killed her children in Texas). I feel sorry for women who feel they have to use botox to be beautiful. I even feel sorry for Sarah Palin in many ways. I can't find it in my heart to feel sorry for men like Karl Rove or Cheney (but I do admit to feeling sorry for George W Bush).
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pixiamom
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posted on October 20, 2008 07:22:23 AM
That's where I turn mean. I do not feel sorry for George W. Edited to add: or Palin!
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neglus
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posted on October 20, 2008 07:28:43 AM
I feel sorry for people who are so stupid they think that they are smart.
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roadsmith
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posted on October 20, 2008 10:02:26 AM
Botox or face lifts, for sure. My sister-in-law in Phoenix has had a few lifts (with the resulting frozen face), and the company she runs with includes the McCains and other "society" women. Looking at the fundraisers these women are pictured at, there's not an untouched face in the crowd.
However, Cindy is just in her 50s, right? She may not have need to have a lot done.
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