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 shething
 
posted on October 27, 2008 11:21:52 AM



Has anyone seen this email yet? I just got it and there's nothing at snopes.com about it. I submitted it to them.



[B]To all,

I have read all of the emails from Law Enforcement & Military personnel about Barack Obama's rudeness and what seems to be disgust for basically anyone in uniform. Well, it's my turn to add to the list of emailers and here it is:

So members of the Calhoun County Sheriff's Department, Michigan State Police, (me included) and other local agencies inside Calhoun County are working with Secret Service in the security of Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama's bus arrives in Battle Creek and pulls into the stadium area. Before Mr. Obama exits the bus, he has the Secret Service get off and tell all Law Enforcement personnel in uniform that they now have to stand behind the bus so Mr. Obama is not seen with anyone in a Law Enforcement uniform before he gets off or while in the public view. So, everyone from Michigan State Police, Sheriff's Deptments and other agencies look at each other for a brief second, go and stand behind the bus out of sight so Mr. Obama does not have to see, or been seen with, what to him is 'undesirables' since he refuses to be seen , or even acknowledge Military or Law Enforcement personnel in uniform. And he wants to be our commander-in-chief!

At a time of war and terrorism in our world, this presidental candidate who is being protected by various branches of the military & law enforcement at the tax payers expense, refuses to acknowledge, be seen with, have in his photographed background, any type of Military or Law Enforcement in uniform. But this is not in the headlines or in the news or on TV. The TV news doesn't show us marching around behind the bus. In the future, look and see if you can see a single soldier or police officer in uniform when you see Obama. Why? I wonder what the story or media frenzy would be if it was Muslims, blacks, whites, Jews, or any other race, gender, religon, and/or occupation, that Mr.. Obama refused to be seen with or have around him. Why would I make this up? Everyone in Law Enforcement knows we have traditionally had more funding under Democrats.

Just food for thought leading up to November 4th.

Jason Kern Michigan Tactical Officer's Association Michigan State Police Executive Board Member[/B]

 
 cblev65252
 
posted on October 27, 2008 11:25:33 AM
I don't even read these types of emails anymore. They're junk! Do some fact checking before spreading this garbage around.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/print_did_obama_snub_us_troops_in_afghanistan.html

Edited to add: Glad you turned it into someone. Now email whoever sent that to you and set them straight!

Cheryl
[ edited by cblev65252 on Oct 27, 2008 11:41 AM ]
 
 cblev65252
 
posted on October 27, 2008 11:40:13 AM






Unless mistaken, that's Obama with men in uniform.

Cheryl
Whitman said she and McCain share a philosophy of scaling back the role of government. a point of view partly shaped by her EBay experience. "The EBay model is very Republican in its essence -- it's about making a small number of rules and getting out of the way while not overtaxing the community," she said.
 
 kiara
 
posted on October 27, 2008 11:46:47 AM
Responses to the e-mail:

Make sure your friends & family are aware of this blatant lie if it shows up in your inbox.


http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2092


09/29/2008

As the President of the Michigan Tactical Officers Association, I send you my sincerest apology for any misunderstandings of Officer Jason Kern's email may have caused. Officer Kern's comments are in no way a representation of the Michigan Tactical Officers Association. The MTOA is a non-profit organization that provides training and resources to the tactical community in Michigan. We do NOT get involved in politics.

I was not in attendance at the event in question and can not speak about what transpired there. The MTOA does not get involved in politics; we had absolutely no representation at that event, or any other political rally. Officer Kern was on-scene at the event representing the police agency he is employed with; he was NOT representing the MTOA.

The email in question was NOT an official MTOA correspondence.

Timothy Liess
President
Michigan Tactical Officers Association


http://www.mtoa.org/obama.php




[ edited by kiara on Oct 27, 2008 11:47 AM ]
 
 neglus
 
posted on October 27, 2008 12:04:15 PM
The American people are "on" to these tactics - move on Mr Rove. We have.
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 deichen
 
posted on October 27, 2008 12:27:14 PM
The lengths to which the McCain camp will stoop is amazing and I am not that easily amazed. I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL HE CONCEDES!

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 profe51
 
posted on October 27, 2008 12:59:58 PM
More desperate drivel. Who cares?

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on October 27, 2008 02:24:30 PM


Next time, shething...just click delete.

 
 shething
 
posted on October 27, 2008 08:22:52 PM
Phew! I guess I should have been more specific but I was about to hurry off to work when I got that email. I certainly did not intend to spread garbage, I was looking for a rebuttal.

Thanks, kiara, I will copy and paste that url and hit "reply all"...

It's late in the game, I know, but I cannot let this BS go unanswered, particularly when it comes from a member of my family. My Lord, I just found out over the weekend that my own dear old Mother is still undecided!

 
 cblev65252
 
posted on October 28, 2008 07:29:51 AM
shething - Even worse than your mother still being undecided is my brother being a die hard republican. Imagine the arguments we have.


Cheryl
Whitman said she and McCain share a philosophy of scaling back the role of government. a point of view partly shaped by her EBay experience. "The EBay model is very Republican in its essence -- it's about making a small number of rules and getting out of the way while not overtaxing the community," she said.
 
 desquirrel
 
posted on October 28, 2008 08:08:03 AM
Just curious. How does Kiara's post make the original story "a lie"???

 
 neglus
 
posted on October 28, 2008 08:33:52 AM
Squirrel - It is my understanding that the law enforcement people and troopers were required by their own policies to "hide" so as not to appear in photo ops with any political candidate. If Obama ordered them to stand behind the truck, it was because he was complying with department wishes. I am pretty sure he would LOVE to have his picture taken with as many men and women in uniform as possible.

"Jason Kern
>
> Michigan Tactical Officer's Association
>
> Michigan State Police
>
> Executive Board Member

Reply to ALL:

All law enforcement & military personnel like myself need to be very clear on
what is & what is not acceptable behavior while you have a uniform on. It is
unacceptable for any campaign, Democrat or Republican, to be parading around our
men & women who put on the uniform & use them as political chew toys. An officer
was recently at a John McCain rally saying "Barack Hussein Obama". He was
quickly whisked away from the stage & is now unemployed for conduct out of
bounds w/political intent while in Uniform. This is just some food for thought
for those who wear the uniform & what is acceptable & unacceptable. Mr. Kern's
statements are filled w/falsehoods & are irresponsible. President of the MTOA Timothy
Liess has issued this press release below on the MTOA's website in response to
Mr. Kern's whining.

Dan Powers "
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store [ edited by neglus on Oct 28, 2008 08:37 AM ]
 
 desquirrel
 
posted on October 28, 2008 08:39:19 AM
I have no doubt.

My question is Kiara basically pastes a "he's on his own, and not representing the organization" post. How would this, in itself, negate the original account???

 
 profe51
 
posted on October 28, 2008 08:41:21 AM
Just curious. How does Kiara's post make the original story "a lie"???

I don't know how kiara's post makes the original story a lie, but Cheryl's pictures sure make this portionof the original post a big whopper:

since he refuses to be seen , or even acknowledge Military or Law Enforcement personnel in uniform.

 
 neglus
 
posted on October 28, 2008 08:47:35 AM
The excerpt I posted came from Kiara's first link. I think the two statements together prove that this was a lie.
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 shething
 
posted on October 28, 2008 08:53:58 AM
Speaking of Cheryl's pictures...the guy standing to Obama's left...where is that little guy's right hand? =)


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 cblev65252
 
posted on October 28, 2008 10:04:06 AM
LOL, shething! Never noticed that one.


Cheryl
Whitman said she and McCain share a philosophy of scaling back the role of government. a point of view partly shaped by her EBay experience. "The EBay model is very Republican in its essence -- it's about making a small number of rules and getting out of the way while not overtaxing the community," she said.
 
 
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