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 profe51
 
posted on July 17, 2009 03:37:11 PM new
Has anyone else been following this weird Jesus cult that all these congresspersons belong to? What gives? The history of the people behind that organization and their beliefs are downright goofy. So far I'm only hearing about it on Rachel Maddow and Olbermann, but one thing they're both missing is that this outfit started and still promotes the National Prayer Breakfast.
The Family??? Isn't that what Charlie Manson called HIS bunch of wackos?

 
 fruscia
 
posted on July 18, 2009 12:39:57 AM new
This is nothing new and I think this is what you are looking for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_(Christian_political_organization)


Christans whether they are Democrats, Republicans or just ordinary Christian people that believe in Christ have participated in this since its beginning. Please note the date it was started.

I tried to look it up under the names you have given so I could find out what was said but I find this on

http://www.365gay.com/living/rachelwatch-sharks-slime-and-congress/
[ edited by fruscia on Jul 18, 2009 12:41 AM ]
 
 profe51
 
posted on July 18, 2009 05:28:38 AM new
I've read those links, thanks. It's interesting that this group has managed to stay so far below the radar, given their wacky beliefs.

 
 roadsmith
 
posted on July 18, 2009 06:00:05 PM new
When I first heard about this C Street group, it reminded me a LOT of the church-which-shall-not-be-named in Utah. Pedophiles and other creeps in that church are encouraged to confess to their bishop, not bring the world in on the problem. Sometimes major problems are solved by sending the perp (er, Good Church Member) to run things for the church on an island somewhere. Perps are frequently moved around (as does the Catholic church) rather than ratted out.
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 cherishedclutter
 
posted on July 20, 2009 05:33:56 AM new
I haven't heard anything about C-Street. I read the Wiki. article, but I'm either missing something or the article didn't talk about the wacky beliefs. So, what are their wacky beliefs?
 
 profe51
 
posted on July 20, 2009 08:04:18 AM new
Well, how about Jesus first, country second? Founder Douglas Coe envisions nothing short of a christian theocracy for this country. I don't have a problem at all with anyone who puts their personal faith first, with the exception of our leaders. They have the obligation to put US first, not their faith.

Here's an older article about Ivanwald, which was the precursor to the C Street group. The author lived with them for some time.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525?pg=1

This one is very detailed, although second hand.

http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm

Rachel Maddow has recently done a multipart investigation on this group also. Parts of it are available at the MSNBC website and on YouTube.
[ edited by profe51 on Jul 20, 2009 08:04 AM ]
 
 fruscia
 
posted on July 20, 2009 09:18:55 AM new
I wouldn't believe anything R. Maddow says or does. She in my observaton is biased. She looks for stories that are not condusive to all. After all MSNBC is not fair and balanced in there news. Her and Obermeier are two of a kind.

This is really old news.
http://hamptonroads.com/node/516773

Look at this...They even pray on Capital Hill.

[b]Former Rep. Tony Hall (D-Ohio) said weekly prayer breakfasts he attended on Capitol Hill were “probably some of the best moments I had during the week” precisely because “we closed the doors.”

“No staff is allowed in,” he said. “No reporters are allowed in — nobody from the outside, only members.”


“[Politicians] usually don’t get that level of pastoral support from their local churches because they don’t feel like they’re among peers, or that they could be vulnerable,” he said. “Most of what’s been written about The Fellowship is very conspiratorial. I studied it for three years, and I just don’t find much support for the conspiracy theories. To the extent that it’s conspiratorial, I would say it’s a private support group for people in power. So because it’s private, you assume there’s something bad going on.”





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 cherishedclutter
 
posted on July 20, 2009 11:30:31 AM new
I haven't read all of the links yet, but the first thing that hit me as "wacky" was the belief that they are the new chosen. Actually what it really struck me as was arrogant, which seems to fit with some of the hypocritical adulterous behavior.





 
 
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