posted on October 25, 2009 09:59:14 AM new
I don't think I've ever seen Joy Behar before. Fun to see her twist Coulter's words the way Coulter usually twists others'.
The Harpy has faded from the public's radar and now has to shill for another book.....
posted on October 25, 2009 06:31:56 PM new
I was hoping Annie had faded into the woodwork--but no, now that she has to plug her new book. I did notice when she was on TV the other day that she's changed her makeup (I know, I know--this is trivial.)
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posted on October 26, 2009 12:29:13 PM newI don't think I've ever seen Joy Behar before.
Profe, Joy Behar is on the morning show "The View" with Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg.
During the campaign, Behar called McCain out when he was a guest on the show for the lies he used in his campaign ads. When Glenn Beck was on a few months ago, Whoopi told him right to his face that he was a "lying sack of dog mess" because of some lies he'd told about them a few days earlier.
Behar is a comedian who doesn't take Coulter seriously but likes to spar with her on occasion just to rile her up a bit, like some here used to do with SWMNBN.
posted on October 26, 2009 01:07:16 PM new
Joy Behar's major "talent" is playing the "whining yenta". But whereas many of the "borscht belt" comedians used ethnicity as a bridge to engage other audiences and become national famous, Behar is a one note whining opera. Even with the view, few outside NY ever heard of her. She couldn't "twist" anyone's words with a wrench. She's a Rosie clone: incredibly stupid with a big mouth.
posted on October 27, 2009 06:32:19 PM new
Desquirrel, not sure what you mean with your comments "yenta" and "borscht belt" as Behar is Italian. She's a former English teacher and she's certainly not a Rosie clone. Perhaps you think she has a big mouth because she's not afraid to speak her mind, no matter the topic. What do you think of Sarah Palin? Is she more your style?
posted on October 29, 2009 12:35:33 PM new
I was referring to her "style" which is why she does not exist outside of NY.
And "speaking your mind" becomes imbecilic blather when you are twice as loud as anyone and quick to spout without a brain in your head. Neither Behar or Rosie will ever reach the semi finals on "Smarter than a Fifth Grader".
[ edited by desquirrel on Oct 29, 2009 12:36 PM ]
posted on October 29, 2009 03:47:33 PM new
Desquirrel, for the most part they're all too loud these days (men included), no matter what platform they choose. From what I've seen of Behar, she seems to be quite intelligent and she's remained on The View since its beginning. I thought Rosie dropped off the map years ago but perhaps I'm more out of touch with what she's been doing these days than you are.
posted on October 31, 2009 02:42:31 PM new
They are ALL too loud mouthed these days. My fault is with those celebrities who love to offer their "opinions" whose mental acuity is limited to "I read it on the internet" and who apparently never finished high school.
To paraphrase Mohammad Ali "it ain't braggin' if you back up what you say".
You can have people march around crying "ethanol", show them the math (even attempting Madoff math) that shows it to be an absolute boondoggle, and they still cry "ethanol".
Being ignorant is not a crime, but these people can be shown they have no foundation and maintain their position. The definition of stupidity. And unfortunately, arrogance is bred from stupidity.
Comedians, actors, etc, all supply their "opinions" to economists, historians, and scientists. Do you ever see the latter group suggest one-liners to the former?
posted on October 31, 2009 05:44:50 PM new
Squirrel--Joy Behar's opinion is worth no more or no less than anyone else's as far as I am concerned. I enjoy her as an entertainer and my opinions are closer to hers that to, say, yours. However, she is not stupid. She has a Masters in English, which does require a certain amount of intelligence to achieve. You don't like her opinions or her "loud-mouth" New York ways, but that does not mean she is dumb. I much prefer Joy Behar's style to that of a certain former VP candidate's golly-gees and dontcha knows.
posted on October 31, 2009 06:59:55 PM new
That's simply because your definition of an "opinion" is much broader than mine.
To me an opinion is "which ice cream tastes the best"? While most people live in worlds of psychedelic colors, the world operates mostly in black and white. Things simply are or are not. It doesn't matter if you really, really, really, really think something is true.
Wow, she has a degree in English?? LOL. Great she can memorize and repeat back to the smiles of some 65 year old tenured professor. Brings back a million jokes from college days.
posted on October 31, 2009 08:12:08 PM new
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Wow, she has a degree in English?? LOL. Great she can memorize and repeat back to the smiles of some 65 year old tenured professor. Brings back a million jokes from college days."
Now, now. Don't be a snob. Earning a Masters in any field requires innate intelligence. Saying she doesn't have a brain in her head is not accurate. The issue seems to be that the brain in Behar's head does not think like the one in yours.
[ edited by coach81938 on Oct 31, 2009 08:14 PM ]
Squirrel, your consistent effort to sneer overwhelms your effort to communicate clearly.
You contradict yourself, for example, when you mention "ignorant celebrities" who have failed to graduate from high school and then try to mock Joy Behar's Master of Arts degree.
The truth is that Joy Behar is a well educated talk show host who occasionally spins the political pot in a direction that you dislike. Why not just say that?
posted on November 1, 2009 09:26:35 AM newBeing ignorant is not a crime, but these people can be shown they have no foundation and maintain their position. The definition of stupidity. And unfortunately, arrogance is bred from stupidity.
Desquirrel, that sounds as if you're describing Sarah Palin.
posted on November 1, 2009 10:52:32 PM new
"Earning a Masters in any field requires innate intelligence."
I thought the same thing working on a wave mechanics problem while one of my roommates girlfriends was cutting out construction paper to "teach kids fractions" in her teaching degree. My friend and I used to take other people's MAJOR courses for electives, LOL.
If you define the majority of English, History, Art, Philosophy, etc grads as "innately intelligent", we'll have to define a new scale.
posted on November 2, 2009 06:58:35 AM new
Squirrel--Your comparison is faulty. Your area of expertise/interest is math/engineering (if my memory is correct)and that is quite impressive. However, that fact does not diminish the intelligence of an English Major. Different strokes for different folks. Your brain is wired for math or engineering or science. Try having a conversation with an English Major regarding the works of Shakespear, Chaucer, Nobokov. Try writing an essay without grammatical error. I dare say you might not feel as smart outside your area of expertise. Using a technique to teach kids fractions is elementary education. You probably learned fractions in a similar way and now look at you. Even a genius has to learn the basics. Instead of making fun of other's intelligence, try appreciating the knowledge we can all impart on each other. You teach me about wave mechanics and I will teach you how to make great ravioli.
posted on November 2, 2009 02:52:48 PM new
I can write an essay quite easily, and have read almost all of the bard, thanks. And yes indeed, there are "smart" English majors, etc.
My point was almost ANYBODY could get a degree in any of those majors. There are also many gifted teachers.
I am not saying educational credentials indicate the level or lack of intelligence.
These disciplines simply start at zero in my "sight unseen" rating.
posted on November 3, 2009 06:38:39 AM new
"I am not saying educational credentials indicate the level or lack of intelligence."
Oh, really? Just reading some of your remarks in this thread refutes that statement.
There's all kinds of intelligence--the car mechanic who can fix any engine; the surgeon who can fix a sick heart; the chef who can create a magnificent meal; the "dog whisperer" who can hone in on a dog's problems; a teacher who can change the course of even one child's life; a comedian who can make people laugh and forget their problems for awhile, a Downs syndrome child who can show you what love is. REAL intelligence is realizing that we can each learn something from anyone, rather than fixating on how much more intelligent one is than the next person.
posted on November 3, 2009 07:02:36 AM new
Well said coach.
These disciplines simply start at zero in my "sight unseen" rating.
This quote sums up your bias squirrel, so any further discussion is a waste of time. Your "look down the nose" attitude is typical and not unexpected. I've seen it from countless students in engineering and science departments who somehow feel they're "smarter" than others who are studying art, literature, history, social science, education etc.
Nonsense....pure egotistical bull.
posted on November 3, 2009 10:53:24 AM new
...just another failed, pompous, jackass routine from a squirrel who is left squirming and looking like a fool every time.
posted on November 3, 2009 11:17:29 AM new
Funny Helen but it seems your replies in most topics seemed to be self righteously pompous, and your quick to comment on things you are clueless about really gets 'em rolling when forwarded around the office here.
And we all know you all think that English, etc degrees are a hallmark of the gifted, but we arrogant people who were there know the capabilities of the majority of these students, wink, wink.
The educational system in this country is a real gem compared to the rest of the world, so all of your theories must be dead on! LOL.
posted on November 3, 2009 11:49:30 AM new
You've mentioned before that you and your "office associates" laugh at posts by members of this board. Please let me give you some advice. Don't show them your pitiful performance on this one.
posted on November 3, 2009 06:22:38 PM new
"your quick to comment on things you are clueless about really gets 'em rolling when forwarded around the office here."
I was not an English major, but gee, this is rather an awkward sentence. If you meant to say "you are quick to comment on things," it should be you're. If you meant to say your in the possessive, it should be "your quick-to-comment," but it still comes out sounding awkward.
If you wish to limit your contact to fellow engineers/math geniuses, with whom you can laugh at "dumb' English, History or Philosophy majors that is your loss. No doubt, it makes you feel superior. My guess is you stopped learning the day you graduated college.
I prefer to admire people like Profe, a true Renaissance man with wide-ranging knowledge from education, to Southwestern history, to philosophy (IMO) to livestock and animal husbandry. Now there's a man with whom you can have a great conversation. Besides, I've always had a thing for cowboys . I also admire Helen and Kiara, both for their interesting posts and senses of humor.
posted on November 3, 2009 08:56:21 PM new
"Most people who really have a reason to be arrogant seldom feel the need to flaunt a superior aspect of their life."
Let me be the one to say Amen to that! As for the cowboy thing, it all started when I laid eyes on Clint Eastwood as Rowdy Yates in Rawhide. He melted my adolescent heart---loved those "nopes" and "yups."
posted on November 4, 2009 12:00:49 AM new
Ah yes, Coach and Helen, those spaghetti westerns......... so much testosterone...... ha ha
But remember, it's also the music. A bell, a whistle and a cracking whip announce the quick death of a bandit; a lonely trumpet plays a dirge for those who are about to die; an electric guitar twangs a foot-stomping riff for the chase; and a man whistles a foreboding tune as a mysterious stranger rides into town.
