bobbi355
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posted on November 18, 2000 08:42:05 AM new
You've got to be kidding!!
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HartCottageQuilts
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posted on November 18, 2000 10:09:18 AM new
Maybe you could expand on this a bit so we know exactly what you're talking about?
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ShellyHerr
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posted on November 18, 2000 10:16:17 AM new
Maybe this is what was meant:
After a Saturday morning hearing, a Seminole County, Florida, state circuit judge said he would rule Monday in a case filed by a Democratic activist, seeking to invalidate 4,700 absentee ballots in the predominantly Republican county
http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/18/seminole.county/index.html
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uaru
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posted on November 18, 2000 10:18:08 AM new
Hanging door chad -- one corner hanging off
Swinging door chad-- two corners hanging off
Tri-chad -- three corners hanging off
Pregnant chad-- bulges, but not punched through
Those I've on seen on the news, and I'm going to take a guess on the latest.
Military chad -- refuses to be dislodged, and is armed and dangerous.
[ edited by uaru on Nov 18, 2000 10:19 AM ]
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ShellyHerr
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posted on November 18, 2000 10:22:59 AM new
I don't know, I did vote for Bush, and would still would like him to win, but this is a circus.
I also heard yet more statements from Democratic lawyers about a ReVOTE, not a recount.(CNN TV) Revote in only those most talked about counties in FL. This would not be right IMO, if there were to be a revote, it should be nationwide, but you'll never see that happen. Not nationwide anyway.
I also heard (CNN TV) that this whole thing could come down to the Florida state legislature deciding, not any judges or Supreme courts. Who knows what'll happen next, so far in the recounts and overseas, and ONLY according to the media, Bush is ahead 900 some odd votes. But if the recount continues (until?........) who knows?
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ShellyHerr
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posted on November 18, 2000 10:24:49 AM new
uaru-LOL! 
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uaru
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posted on November 18, 2000 10:25:28 AM new
Maybe it is reference to this story?
http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/18/military.ballots/index.html
Seems like the democratic 'disenfranchised voters!' battle cry only applies to the Palm Beach voters.
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bobbi355
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posted on November 18, 2000 11:45:56 AM new
Yes Uaru - that article is what I am referring to. So "human error" is the reason they weren't postmarked ...... And it was "human error" when the people couldn't figure out the ballot - but those get recounted because Gore claims "Each and every vote must be counted" and "We just want the will of the American people" .... But they're throwing out ballots cast by the men and women who are defending our country???
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CleverGirl
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posted on November 18, 2000 03:19:00 PM new
Oh boy. Bush the patriot. Bush the military man. Yeah, right.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Smith110900/smith110900.html
and this
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/S-C110500/s-c110500.html
and this
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Heldt092600/heldt092600.html
There are others, of course, but I thought these were most pointed.
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CleverGirl
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posted on November 18, 2000 03:25:38 PM new
okay, one more. Sorry about the non-links. This one has dates. Most interesting.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Heldt090300/heldt090300.html
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uaru
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posted on November 18, 2000 03:27:33 PM new
"Oh boy. Bush the patriot. Bush the military man. Yeah, right."
??? What does Bush's military record have to do with disallowing overseas ballots?
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dejavu
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posted on November 18, 2000 03:29:45 PM new
uh, clevergirl, I didn't find any Gore information on that site only GWB speculation..........do you suppose it might be biased?
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njrazd
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posted on November 18, 2000 03:44:34 PM new
I'm going to have to go through the trunk in the garage (if I can get to it!!) and check out the letters I got from my husband when he was in the Navy and was out at sea. I can't remember if all of them had postmarks or not, but that was quite a few years ago.
I asked him about the postmarks and he said it would not be all that unusual not to have letters postmarked because sometimes they would be trying to get the mail moved out quickly. He did say that each ship had an officer that was in charge of voting to make sure ballots were received and returned if the sailors wanted to vote. I can't say how things work on military bases other places.
What is curious is that the law demands a postmark on all ballots coming from overseas, yet the military routinely does not postmark the mail. You would think the ballots would be important enough to make sure they were postmarked and mailed through properly.
Also, if ballots were received within a few days of the election, it would be obvious they were mailed before the 7th, since it takes several days for the mail to come through.
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That's Flunky Gerbiltush to you!
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Shadowcat
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posted on November 18, 2000 08:35:01 PM new
One of the reasons those ballots might not have postmarks...Seems that some military PSC screwed up and discovered a batch of ballots stuck off to one side almost too late(like early Tues, our time). To make up for the screw up, those ballots were put on a plane and flown to FL that day to make it in time to be counted.
Seems to me if the military went to such lengths to make sure the votes were there, the nimrods in FL could at least count them.
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krs
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posted on November 18, 2000 08:43:45 PM new
Sounds like an emergency transplant for the Bush campaign.
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barbarake
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posted on November 18, 2000 08:45:46 PM new
If anyone in America deserves to have their vote count, it's our military men and women throughout the world.
But if there's no postmark, how do the election officials know *when* the ballot was cast? Who's to say that the voter didn't wake up the day after the election and realize "Whoa, this is close, my vote might be important, I better hurry up and get the ballot in". *That's* why the letters are supposed to have a postmark. The military knows this - it's not a new rule or anything. The military also tends to be Republican. They should have made sure they got this right.
(I mean the military officials, not the voters. Obviously it's not the voters fault if the military officials didn't postmark their envelope.)
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fred
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posted on November 18, 2000 09:53:44 PM new
I don't know if this will help. Some Military mail will not be be post marked. Certain types of duty prevents mail correspondence dates & area location.
Fred
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Shadowcat
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posted on November 18, 2000 10:00:11 PM new
Good ole OPSEC...
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connibirch
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posted on November 19, 2000 05:31:03 AM new
Actually, as reported on CNN last night, the actual law reads (and I am paraphrasing) that Military Ballots must be signed OR postmarked by election day. (Key word being "OR".) And that other absentee ballots must be postmarked by election day. And they must all be received within 10 days of election day.
This is why a serviceman must have his commanding officer sign off on the ballot, to verify that it was signed by election day.
So this has opened another can of worms since some ballots were disqualified because of their postmark or lack of postmark without ever being opened to determine if they were military or not.
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