posted on November 27, 2000 03:43:40 PM new
The only two presidents whose "home of record" (at the time of their successful presidential elections) was Texas were Lyndon Johnson and George Bush (Sr.). Eisenhower was born in Texas, but raised in Kansas, and that was, I believe his 'home of record' when he was elected, although when he left the White House, it was to a home in Gettysburg, PA.
Strictly the historical perspective of the thing, but from a preference standpoint, I'm with Tegan. Personally, I'd be pleased to see the next inauguration spotlight shine on a fella from Tennessee.
posted on November 27, 2000 06:04:22 PM newDeregulation, I agree that's it's too bad that the majority of people here in Tennessee did not see it that way. If they had, this would have been over three weeks ago, and the Florida vote would be but a footnote in the history books.
posted on November 30, 2000 12:43:10 PM new
I guess it depends how you decide what determines where a President is from. Illinois is called the Land of Lincoln but Abe was born in Kentucky. As pointed out Ike was born was in Texas but raised in Kansas.
A more interesting question is how many Presidents were actually born where they supposedly hail from?
posted on November 30, 2000 05:25:17 PM new
zazzie you must be from Ohio because only a person from Ohio would know that Ohio is the Birth Place of Seven US Presidents putting it in a tie with Virginia.
And should Gore become President his birthplace is actually Washington, DC which would make him the first President Born in the Nation's Capital.
posted on November 30, 2000 05:45:04 PM new
If he was born in D.C. then he should be disqualified as not being a natural born citizen of the United States.
posted on November 30, 2000 07:53:43 PM new
Ohio claims 8 Presidents, but that has to include both people who were born in Ohio (but lived elsewhere) as well as people who were born elsewhere (but lived in Ohio). They are:
Wm H. Harrison (b. VA, lived Ohio, died in office)
Grant (born Ohio, lived Illinois, major scandal in office)
Benj Harrison
Rutherford B Hayes (victor in perhaps the most corrupt election in US history)
James A Garfield (died in office)
Wm McKinley (died in office)
Wm H Taft (split his party in two)
Warren G Harding (a double dipper, both died in office and a major scandal)
A thoroughly remarkable group: three of the major US scandals (Grant and Credit Mobilier, Hayes-Tilden election, Harding and Teapot Dome), two of the four Presidents who were assassinated (McKinley and Garfield), two of the four who died in office (Harrison and Harding).
Virginia also claims 8 Presidents, which includes Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Wilson, ... all in all, a somewhat faster track.
posted on December 3, 2000 10:27:32 AM new
KRS - That's an interesting premise. It reminds me of a question submitted to Stars and Stripes Europe when I was based there many years ago. The wife of a service member due to give birth wanted to know if being born in an American Hospital overseas would disqualify her child from ever being President.
The Stars and Stripes told her that would be an interesting Constitutional question that would be best avoided if she took the time to return to America to give birth. Although there was a lot of technicality what ifs in the article.
Although not a State the people born in / residents of the District of Columbia have all the Rights of all Natural Born non territorial citizens of the United States. So sadly your premise won't help the Bush Team, because Alfred Gore was born in Washington D.C.
posted on December 3, 2000 12:57:33 PM new
That story of a baby being born out of the country because of the miltary reminds me of a Dutch baby being born in Canada during World War II
"A Dutch Royal Child is Born in Exile
A new year and a new spirit! The birth of Princess Margriet Francisca to Princess Juliana and Prince Bernhard was more than a new life - it was a symbol of hope and inspiration for the Dutch people who were fighting for their lives in Europe.
January 19, 1943
"A princess is born!" shouted an underground newspaper in the Netherlands, where public
demonstrations of joy were harshly suppressed by the occupiers. The birth of a royal princess - the only royal baby ever born in North America - heartened the Dutch resistance and created a new and living link between Canada and the Netherlands. The Canadian government temporarily ceded the maternity room at the Ottawa Civic Hospital to the Netherlands so that Margriet could be born a Dutch citizen on Dutch soil."
posted on December 4, 2000 05:56:37 AM new
Quickie facts:
--There have been 41 different individuals who have served as US President.
--States of birth, in order of frequency: Virginia (8), Ohio (7), Massachusetts (4), New York (4), Carolina Territory/North Carolina (3), Vermont (2), Texas (2), and New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, New Jersey, Iowa, Missouri, California, Nebraska, Georgia, Illinois, Arkansas (1 each).
--Home states of record at election, in order of frequency: New York (7), Ohio (6), Virginia (5), Massachusetts (4), Tennessee (3), Illinois (2), Texas (2), California (2), and Louisiana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Indiana, New Jersey, Missouri, Kansas, Michigan, Georgia, Arkansas (1 each).
--The first president whose birth state and home state of record were different was Andrew Jackson (b. "Carolinas", rep. Tennessee).
--Although elected himself by both an overwhelming popular and electoral majority, it was also Andrew Jackson who first proposed the elimination of the electoral college as outdated and inherently flawed.
--Three presidents (JQ Adams, Hayes, B Harrison) were 'elected' without receiving a majority of the popular vote via the electoral process.
--"his KRS~ness" is a native son of California. Were he, however, from Texas...it might bring something meaningful to the phrase, "Don't Mess With Texas."
