cyanide
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posted on April 11, 2001 07:53:14 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/557786.asp?bt=prgy
I can understand their frustration, but to feel the need to go out and cause mayhem to vent out that frustration is what I don't understand. I TRIED to move to Los Angeles, and with my luck and timing I moved two days before the riots. Lucky me! I remember sitting in my hotel room waiting for my friend to pick me up to take me to the apartment I was going to move into. Thats when the Newsbreak flashed on the TV, and watching everything as it happened. It was scary. My apartment building that I was going to move into caught on fire. I'm glad I didn't have a chance to move in! But I think about 40% of the people who participated in the riots did it because everybody else was. What do you think?
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gravid
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posted on April 11, 2001 10:20:26 AM
Saw a video of a guy in Cincinnatti standing in front of his store with a .45 on a holster turned around to the front so you could not miss seeing it.
The young guys going down the street were throwing trash cans and newspaper boxes at the store windows and when they got to him they nodded respectfully and trotted right past his store. He politely nodded back.
Real interesting story there - no captions needed.
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Linda_K
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posted on April 11, 2001 01:35:02 PM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/557786.asp?bt=prgy
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Linda_K
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posted on April 11, 2001 01:48:33 PM
cyanide - I wish I knew. I questioned 'why' the same way you are when after a college basketball game, students (who's team had lost) were destroying cars and motorhomes.
These are our future leaders, voters of tomorrow. What would possess them to act in such a destructive way? No respect for the property of others? Not enough consequences for this type of behavior? Drug and alcohol use? Very, very sad.
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Borillar
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posted on April 11, 2001 01:59:35 PM
Here's where I'll probably get slammed for being incorrect. For the life of me, I can't see why the anger is taken out on businesses and personal property! If the cops did the nasty thing, then why not go riot at that police station? Why not bust in their windows? Why not trash the police station and throw bricks at the cops instead of innocent drivers passing by?
You know, I have a friend who is a Korean businessman who helps other Koreans get their businesses started here in America. He told me what I later verified about the LA riots: conveinience stores that were owned by Koreans were looted and burned to the ground, but black-owned businesses were largely untouched. And that's because Rodney King's attackers were acquitted? Why didn't they just march on Semi Valley where the jurors came from? Why not march on the police station?
It doesn't make any sense to me.
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toke
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posted on April 11, 2001 02:08:46 PM
And don't forget the looting part. What stealing has to do with protest, I can't imagine.
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VeryModern
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posted on April 11, 2001 02:18:26 PM
toke you are my hero!
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gravid
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posted on April 11, 2001 02:23:53 PM
It is just a cover for doing what you want to do. The stores are for the most part undefended. Why be stupid and go riot at the police station where ythey have guns and nothing to steal? The mob makes it hard to apprehebnd them so they steal.
Not that they shouldn't be opissed when unarmed people are shot in the back and killed. Notice I did not say innocent - just unarmed. Trouble is if you do it enough pretty soon people figure - They are going to shoot me if they stop me so I might as well shoot first and maybe I will survive.
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toke
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posted on April 11, 2001 02:32:25 PM
Hey, VM...
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kerryann
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posted on April 11, 2001 02:39:57 PM
I work in the news industry and can tell you that the L.A. rioters did not leave black owned business relatively untouched. They stole what they could from wherever they felt like it, gleefully carrying television sets, etc., on their backs. Watching parents stealing in front of their small children was one of the most heartbreaking things I've ever seen. To show the ignorance of some of the looters, there was also footage of groups of young men looting and throwing rocks and garbage cans yelling: Free Rodney King. Unreal.
There was a black man crying in the street-- I will never forget the footage-- saying, It's not right what you're doing. I came from the ghetto too, why break my computer? Why rob my store?" The crowds just laughed at him and continued on.
I think Linda_K mentioned above that it's awful when students whose team loses a game riot and cause mayhem, what's worse is that that happens when their teams win as well. There have been tons of stories about cars being overturned and burned and stores broken into and looted in the winning teams' towns. Gee, what a way to celebrate, eh?
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scrabblegod
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posted on April 11, 2001 04:38:44 PM
If you read some of the reports, you will see that they could not attack the police station or city hall, as the police surrounded them to protect them from riot damage. I do not understand the mentality that leads to the destruction of your own area when you are mad at others.
I guess this adds new meaning to the phrase "SEAT BELTS SAVE LIVES" when you are in Ohio.
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jlpiece
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posted on April 12, 2001 07:19:26 PM
Those riots are a cowardly act, as evidenced by the attacks on innocent motorists because they were white. There is no excuse for that behavior, and I agree with the earlier poster - if you want to address the root, go riot on the police station instead of attacking innocent people because of the color of their skin. What makes those acts any better than the police racially profiling suspects?
As an inhabitant of Detroit, I am speaking on a subject we know too well in this city.
Detroit leads the nation in arrests per murder (3) and officer shootings. Detroits police force is also 79% black (as is the police chief Benny Napoleon)...which might account for the lack of riots or even coverage of the reprehensible acts commited by one of the nations most corupt police forces.
Were the police force in Detroit 79% white, we would have hed numerous "LA's" on our hands in the last few years.
Odd isn't it?
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sideslam
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posted on April 12, 2001 08:29:57 PM
What they are doing in Cincinnati is a excuse to loot and rob. Not to mention they are now attacking people. What they are doing is despicable. I can understand they are angry.But things don't always turn out how we want them to. If everyone reacted in that way when we are not happy with something we would all be in trouble. But why tear up the very city that they have to live in each day, shop in, and work in?
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Borillar
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posted on April 12, 2001 10:51:20 PM
Well, as the scientfic community keeps reminding us, humans are the only species on earth that defecates into its own water supply.
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jlpiece
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posted on April 12, 2001 11:25:54 PM
Maybe that explains some of the scientific communities crack pot theories - they're drinking the water!
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cyanide
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posted on April 13, 2001 12:12:10 AM
Thats another thing. The mayhem starts its their area where they live, shop, etc..
Like I said I saw it live on TV when they pulled Denny out of his truck. I was terrifingly dumbfounded.
And like I said, I think maybe more then half the people decided to loot because the other half was doing it maybe not knowing the reason why it at started and plus well, LA cops didn't really do anything when it first started, then it esculated.
Its sad, really sad when a person thinks thats what they have to do to protest something.
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spazmodeus
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posted on April 13, 2001 12:37:53 AM
I don't think protest has anything to do with it. I think the people who are out rioting could give a s*** about the guy who got shot. People who behave in such a manner care about no one but themselves. It's a convenient excuse for lawlessness.
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inside
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posted on April 13, 2001 05:05:41 AM
Blacks in the city have been subjected to racism and police brutality . The ACLU is suing the city for 30 years of discrimination. Seems the riots of the 60's did little to change to plight of the living conditions there for blacks.
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HJW
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posted on April 13, 2001 05:49:35 AM
Inside,
An astute post!
I'm looking forward to reading more from you.
Helen
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jlpiece
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posted on April 13, 2001 09:31:14 AM
Actually the annual income of blacks reported in the metro Cincy area has risen (indexed to inflation 147% in the last 15 years alone.
Assumptions will do nothing to gain understanding in these situations.
The standard of living of blacks in this country are higher than in any other country in the world. If taken as a whole (according to 98 tax returns) The GDP of blacks alone would make them the 14th wealthiest country in the world - better than many caucasian countries in Europe.
The fact is the standard of living here isn't the problem. I don't want to condemn anyone without the facts, but I am not a big proponent of the police in general, and have seen there abuses first hand. It is disconcerting that 4 blacks have been killed by Cincy police in the last 6 months. That seems high, and although I understand the police have a tough and dangerous job, they abuse there power far too often. The kid was wanted on Misdeamenors and traffic warrants, and he didn't have a gun. Was it really that important to bring him in?
However to say that all of this rioting is due to oppresive economic conditions that haven't changed since their riots of "67 would be a documented falsehood. Not very astute indeed.
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inside
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posted on April 13, 2001 09:42:31 AM
jlpiece,
Was not speaking of economic living conditions.
Having more money does nothing to ease the fears of being shot or beaten for being black. Cincinnati has a long history of violence against blacks. Not just the police either.
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HJW
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posted on April 13, 2001 09:42:37 AM
jlpiece
Basic BS
Helen
Edited to identify the post to which I am
referring.
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jlpiece
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posted on April 13, 2001 09:43:09 AM
True. (to inside)
BS - I didn't know facts were considered as such. I guess that's only when the facts don't agree with your preconceived notions.(to HJW)
[ edited by jlpiece on Apr 13, 2001 09:45 AM ]
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HJW
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posted on April 13, 2001 09:50:37 AM
jlpiece,
You have access to facts? Where is the
source?
Helen
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HJW
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posted on April 13, 2001 10:00:18 AM
This is the kind of distortion that I
question......
"The standard of living of blacks in this country are higher than in any other country in the world. If taken as a whole (according to 98 tax returns) The GDP of blacks alone would make them the 14th wealthiest country in the world - better than many caucasian countries in Europe."
Helen
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Linda_K
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posted on April 13, 2001 10:03:10 AM
When reading the Cincinnati Herald News today (online) it seem that statistically this town has the highest crime rate in that area.
Also while reading about the issue of 15 blacks being shot by police officers in Cincinnati, five were shot by black police officers. Others had shot back because they were being fired on....etc.
On tv last night I saw a leader of the Black Panther Party being interviewed. The program also had a radio commentator, from the down-town area, who couldn't get into his station because of the riots. By what he shared he seemed to feel this BPP leader had done a lot to incite the riots. The BPP leader certainly seemed very racist to me.
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jlpiece
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posted on April 13, 2001 10:49:08 AM
HJW here is the distorted facts link that you asked for. I initially read it on a govt site, but can't find it. Hopefully the fact that the artical is pro-reparations, and the comment made by a BLACK ECONOMIST, maybe you can tell him it's BS.
http://detnews.com/2000/metro/0012/20/a10-165187.htm
HJW, you never have been one to let facts get in the way though have you?
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uaru
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posted on April 13, 2001 10:59:12 AM
I'm disappointed (but not surprised) to see any defense offered for this riot. Maybe I'm narrow minded, but looting stores, setting fires, and attacking motorists with bricks are actions I find undefendable.
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Linda_K
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posted on April 13, 2001 11:02:46 AM
http://detnews.com/2000/metro/0012/20/a10-165187.htm
jlpiece - You just haven't learned to play the 'game' the right way. 
Any 'misstatement' can be made, and it won't be challenged, if your opinion is not different from theirs.
But, if you're sharing something they don't want to hear, or they don't believe....you will be challenged to 'show proof' all the time. I have seen you make three posts, that I had read too, that were questioned as being accurate. I knew they were as I had read them online also.
By-the-way, to make URLs clickable just type [*URL]theURLhere[*/URL] and it will be clickable. Just remove the asterisks.
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jlpiece
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posted on April 13, 2001 12:53:19 PM
Thanks Linda_K,
I'm getting used to the game now. I've tried HTML with no success on postings before, so I gave up. Thanks for helping with the footwork though!
To master the art of HTML.
[ edited by jlpiece on Apr 13, 2001 12:54 PM ]
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