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 gravid
 
posted on April 26, 2001 07:03:47 PM new
Why? Just because theym kill people? After all it is legal. Isn't that the same as moral?

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/04/26/tobacco.workers.ad.ap/index.html

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on April 26, 2001 07:07:32 PM new
That's stupid. There are always more people then jobs. So spending money to sucker people into quitting their jobs, only to have those jobs filled by someone else seems pointless.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on April 26, 2001 07:43:21 PM new
" After all it is legal. Isn't that the same as moral?"

Since when?



 
 jlpiece
 
posted on April 26, 2001 11:48:04 PM new
Here's an idea; how about for once people start taking responsibility for there actions insted of EVERYTHING being blamed on the product and not the stupid ass that doesn't realize it might not be good or be so weak willed that they let anything control their actions? If it isn't good - don't do it. How hard is that? And when you slip up and gotta try it anyway, and realize that it really isn't good, then stop.

The Pope could hand me a bag of cocaine, it doesn't matter. I am smart enough to know that only I will be the one to get my ass out of the predicaments I get myself into. Let the Pope zoom, I'm straight. I guess I just don't find it appealing to always insist on blaming someone or something else for my stupid ass decisions. So next it's the alcohol companies, and the pharmaceutical companies, and the gun makers, and the car makers, and the gangsta rappers because little Johnny got drunk while taking Vicadins which caused a reaction that , when combined with the evil influence of Eminem, CAUSED Little Johnny to shoot at passers-by as he drove himself into a wall at 110 mph. If only he was forced to wear his seat belt, maybe little Johnny would be here with us today.

What a tragedy.

 
 Capriole
 
posted on April 26, 2001 11:50:59 PM new
If it were only that simple.

 
 jlpiece
 
posted on April 27, 2001 08:43:41 AM new
It is.

 
 snOwyEgreT
 
posted on April 27, 2001 09:05:41 AM new
WOW! Such aggressive action by the state of Florida leaves me unimpressed.



lol

 
 Zazzie
 
posted on April 27, 2001 09:31:26 AM new
Abortion is legal....guns are legal....movies depicting violence are legal...


 
 Borillar
 
posted on April 27, 2001 12:36:47 PM new
"Here's an idea; how about for once people start taking responsibility for there actions insted of EVERYTHING being blamed on the product and not the stupid ass that doesn't realize it might not be good or be so weak willed that they let anything control their actions? If it isn't good - don't do it. How hard is that? And when you slip up and gotta try it anyway, and realize that it really isn't good, then stop."
-jlpiece-

Criminalizing tobacco (legislating morality) won't work and always creates a hundred times more problems and suffering than the law attempts to cure. In fact, people do it more in difiance of such moralistic laws.

But there are certain things that do need to be addressed and regulated. The Tobacco Industry ads always try to depict smoking to be "cool" to do and always have some image larger than life, such as the third Marlboro Man (the other two died from lung cancer over the years of smoking). If the Truth were depicted: people smelling disgusting like a dirty ashtray, skin that ages three times faster than normal, darkened teeth, male impotence, being able to smell someone who smokes six feet away - then that would at least be "Truth-in-Advertising" which is the law (except for Republicans, appearently). Therefore, the ads are deceitfull - lies. How moral is that?

Then, you take this sort of advertising to the extreme and flood image-conscience kids, say, 8-year olds, not just teens, with how "adult" and "cool" they'll look if they smoke! The logic that you ranted in the above quote does not fit in with kids. We, as adults, are supposed to protect kids, to guide them away from harm simply because they don't know any better. It's one thing to watch adults talk about ignoring cigarette advertisiments aimedat them and a whole other thing when actually confronted by the reality of it. Kids do stupid things because they have not developed the experiences along with the knowledge to simply avoid such adult pitfalls. That is why if adults want to pose nude in a magazine, that's thier affair. If kids want to pose nude in a magazine, then it's pedophilia - illegal. Where's the morality in making advertising for cigarettes targeted directly at kids?



 
 gravid
 
posted on April 27, 2001 02:44:00 PM new
Yes making tobacco illegal would be stupid.
It would just make a bigger black market.
I used to work with a fellow in Ohio that would take his vacation every year and go down south somewhere he could buy cigerettes with no tax. He would make two trips in the space of two weeks and fill his huge 5th wheel travel trailer packed solid with cigerettes. In those two weeks he made as much as working his regular job 6 months.
It woiuld be just like the other illegal drugs if they were illegal - wars for territory and packed prisons.

 
 
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