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 krs
 
posted on April 29, 2001 04:40:16 AM
Away from Russia, toward China. What a surprise!

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010429/ts/arms_nuclear_usa_dc_1.html
 
 gravid
 
posted on April 29, 2001 06:15:39 AM
I find it real hard to believe that there is not a controler sitting somewhere who can change the targeting of the whole force in about 30 seconds from scenerio to scenerio.

The chinese are not going to be happy as long as they know that their exostance as a viable nation is dependant on external forces.

2,000 warheads on China would mean they did not exist as a nation anymore even if you did not aim them. Just ground burst them anywhere toward the west and let the fallout plumes do the rest.

 
 EnchAnTed
 
posted on April 29, 2001 06:18:34 AM
what a surprise... not.

do you think Bush planned and hoped for these developments, in order to escalate negative public opinion and an aggressive stance towards China, since before the election? personally I think that might be the case.

g'morning krs

 
 HJW
 
posted on April 29, 2001 08:34:41 AM
gravid

krs and EnchAnTed

I just returned from chruch
and I said a little prayer for you and Hepburn and Zilvy
and the banana thread.

So you can all relax...God forgives.

About this story...It confirms another news report that I read.
Dubya's Presidential ambitions: Cold war with Russia; star wars with China and global warming. All this, while he pacifies the average American with a pat on the back and "How ya' doin' buddy?" Women
get kisses on the tops of their heads.

This while a war with China is looming...

Helen

Nancy's new motto...

Bring the Solution to an end!

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3750/nancy.htm

[ edited by HJW on Apr 29, 2001 10:00 AM ]
 
 EnchAnTed
 
posted on April 29, 2001 09:12:32 AM
Thank you Helen for the prayer

I tried to click on your link about Nancy but it didn't work, what was the story about?


 
 krs
 
posted on April 29, 2001 09:23:37 AM
With the swing to transcengenderalism as evidenced in New York Bush may be planting those kisses on women's balding heads if he's reelected.

 
 gravid
 
posted on April 29, 2001 09:34:44 AM
HJW - I am humbled if you actually remembered me away from the screen.

Thanks to everyone for not mocking my spelling.

I would hate to see a war with China. Their mindset is so different than ours I can see more chance of a nuclear exchange with them
than there ever was with Russia.
I really think that the US could absorb 12 to 18 warheads the Chinese could launch and remain a functioning country. I don't think they would ever understand the American mindset that would say - Destroy them as a people and culture. - not just a government, if that happened. Nobody has ever struck here at the continetal US with any effectiveness.
The bacllash if they did would go down in history for a long, long time. I don't think the players understand each other at all.

 
 HJW
 
posted on April 29, 2001 10:10:46 AM
EnchAnTed

This is the link to the Nancy Letters.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3750/nancy.htm

krs

LoL

http://www.andrewsullivan.com./text/hits_article.html?7,culture

I think that I should avoid contributing to
all threads today.

Helen






[ edited by HJW on Apr 29, 2001 10:18 AM ]
 
 HJW
 
posted on April 29, 2001 10:24:32 AM
gravid

There will be massive miscommunication...
especially if dumya is allowed to speak.

Helen

 
 jlpiece
 
posted on April 29, 2001 10:25:27 AM
[i]I don't think they would ever understand the American mindset that would say - Destroy them as a people and culture. - not just a government, if that happened.[i] -gravid-

Really? Well I guess we didn't go far enough with Japan in WWII then did we? What evidence suggests that mindset? What country has the US destroyed as a people and a culture? Don't say this is different, because if it is, then it is less serious than previous incidents. After all, we did drop two atomic bombs on Japan in a time of war. Didn't try to destroy the people or the culture, just the government. Lets also not forget that China has had missles pointed at the US for some time now. Japan was a much bigger threat then, then China is now. But we still have toyota's and Sony's and Sushi.
I know ya'll don't like Bush, that's cool, I don't really like him either. What bothers me is that most of you can't figure out WHY you don't like him. Facts are a strange thing.



 
 jlpiece
 
posted on April 29, 2001 10:28:56 AM
"The United States is considering major changes in America's nuclear posture, such as slashing the number of strategic warheads" from krs' link

Gee, that sounds terrible. You mean Bush is going to lower the number of strategic warheads and targets. What an evil man.

 
 HJW
 
posted on April 29, 2001 11:03:23 AM
jlpiece

Less but more effective weapons

http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,477993,00.html

an excerpt...

"The US will undoubtedly require a new nuclear weapon... because it is realised that the yields of the weapons left over from the cold war are too high for addressing the deterrence requirements of a multipolar, widely proliferated world," Paul Robinson, director of America's Sandia Nuclear Laboratories pronounced recently. "Low-yield weapons with highly accurate delivery systems" would be a useful deterrent, he said, adding that such devices could help decision-makers "contemplate the destruction of some buried or hidden targets while being mindful of the need to minimise collateral damage".

In a paper entitled Nuclear Weapons in the 21st Century, Stephen Younger, head of nuclear weapons research at the Los Alamos laboratory, last year said low-yield nukes would be more effective against underground concrete bunkers and mobile missiles than conventional bombs. Weapons of less than five kilotons, the argument goes, would be a more credible deterrent than "normal" nuclear weapons. Indeed, they could have been used during the Kosovo war. And mini-nukes would enable the US to reduce its stockpile of 6,000 much larger nuclear warheads.



 
 jlpiece
 
posted on April 29, 2001 11:09:15 AM
Great!!! I'm all for less collateral damage. Thank you President Bush! Thanks for that info HJW, I'm glad to see it is a good idea after all.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on April 29, 2001 11:16:35 AM
China has been targeting us for quite some time, so it's only good policy to target them back!

I heard from a good source last night that when Bush, Sr. was in office he and Mrs. Bush wouldn't let George, jr. into the Oval Office because he was such an embarrassment to them. I wonder how true that is?



 
 EnchAnTed
 
posted on April 29, 2001 11:41:42 AM
LOL krs!

gravid, one teeny tiny question if you don't mind. Is exostance what your exoskeleton does when it strikes a pose? I love that word exostance.

 
 krs
 
posted on April 29, 2001 01:12:31 PM
jlpiece,

As we know, Bush is a model of efficiency in all things. That being the case, can you imagine what method he might find to be the most efficacious were he to decide to reduce the number of nuclear warheads in the US arsenal?

gravid

 
 JLPIECE
 
posted on April 29, 2001 08:03:26 PM
I say blow up France. Or Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka has always bothered me. Don't pretend you like Sri Lankans.

 
 
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