deichen
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posted on July 2, 2001 08:25:13 AM
Just got another email from Bidville, stating that the $1.00 sale ends tomorrow. Everyone check out the auctions one last time. BidVille thank you for supporting this idea of wallypog's!
I just wish I would have gotten involved in it! Next time! 
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telwil
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posted on July 2, 2001 05:21:57 PM
deichen, The Dollar sale has been great. I have about worked myself to death e-mailing bidders boxing and shipping. But alot of my items that were not in the dollar sale sold also so I say three cheeries to Bidville and Wallypog. Have a nice buying/selling day. I got bored with the other threads the same old same old lol.
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deichen
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posted on July 2, 2001 06:09:44 PM
I will be involved in the next one! Congratulations on doing so well! Have a great week!
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dimview
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posted on July 2, 2001 06:12:31 PM
Not to worry.
What didn't sell this past week with the $1-SALE in the title, will be inventory warehoused without the tag in the title next week and still available for a buck.
[ edited by dimview on Jul 2, 2001 06:29 PM ]
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uptoolate
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posted on July 3, 2001 12:52:32 AM
Mmmmhmmm, I also got an email Monday morning that it was the last day of the $1 sale. I checked at 11:45 pm to see how few ads were left and there were 3,443. Funny thing is 3,310 of them had ending dates listed from July 3 to Aug. 1, virtually every day in between. I think you can forget the tag removal Dim.
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cuff
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posted on July 3, 2001 05:37:22 AM
What a couple of jerks you guys are.
I find it difficult to believe you're adults.
CuFF
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dimview
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posted on July 3, 2001 06:12:19 AM
cuff >
What a couple of jerks you guys are.
I find it difficult to believe you're adults.
Other than as a auction seller, and perhaps buyer, are you in any way associated with Bidville?
UBB.
[ edited by dimview on Jul 3, 2001 07:04 AM ]
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SmittyAW
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posted on July 3, 2001 11:59:03 AM
cuff..
Please remember the Community Guidelines when posting. If you need to review them, please do so. Especially:
8.1 Respect the community.
If you continue to post in this manner, your posting privileges may be in jeopardy.
Smitty
[email protected]
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telwil
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posted on July 3, 2001 02:05:52 PM
Well deichen the sale is over I emailed my buyers some have already payed. Now its boxing time I hate that. So I have to get off line and get to work. Oh by the way the sale is over but it still got 4 new bids today I guess some of those buyers are hanging around. See you later. Have a nice buying/selling day.
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deichen
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posted on July 3, 2001 02:20:33 PM
Congrats, Telwil and all those successful sellers at BidVille who were smart enough and insightful enough to get in on it. I did bid many times. Won a couple of things and was outbid several times! The boxing and listing are the worst parts for me! The rest is fun!
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wallypog
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posted on July 3, 2001 02:44:42 PM
I think SOME items will be warehoused for a while but mine won't be. 
I'm getting ready to put an entirely new batch of listings up just as soon as I semi-recover from all the EOAs, payments, packaging and e-mails.
I also know quite a few sellers on BidVille are taking a good look at their auctions that haven't sold to figure out why. Thanks to some of the stuff brought up on these threads they're looking at things in a little different light.
Unfortunately that won't completely eliminate the problem. There are still those who list items with gobs of re-lists then just go off and leave them. Does anyone have any ideas how something like this might be remedied?
I know there's been some talk about the 166,000+ listings on BidVille. Personally I'd rather shop on a site with 50,000 listings than constantly try to pick through what's been sitting there with no bids for months and months.
I've seen an awful lot of bashing going on here the past few days and I tell you it really aggravates me.
Why not use some of the energy spent bashing on creating solutions for problems like this? Take a pro-active stance rather than a re-active stance--a whole lot more will get accomplished.
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dimview
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posted on July 3, 2001 03:00:03 PM
wallypog >
I've seen an awful lot of bashing going on here the past few days and I tell you it really aggravates me.
Why not use some of the energy spent bashing on creating solutions for problems like this?
Sorry your finding these "lively discussions" aggravating, but I have to remind myself that there's two groups of sellers on these free auction sites.
There's sellers, like you, who list items, rotating those that don't sell, and actively manage their business. They are real auction sellers.
Then there's the "others". They put up items with 99 relists, a few items sell, and then the auctionsite suffers because buyers don't want to see the same old listings week after week, and don't want to play hide-and-seek with the new listings. The are not managing anything at all, everything is on autopilot. In every sense of the term, they are inventory warehousers and care less about the success or failure of the auctionsite.
Its no coincidence that a simple suggestion that relisting be limited to five or ten times elicits ... well, you can see the inventory warehousers responses in every Bidville thread.
(Edited to add, I *had* been a buyer at Bidville until last month, having made several dozen purchases. Just got tired of the old listings over and over again, so ZERO purchases for me in June. Looks like it will be ZERO again for July.)
[ edited by dimview on Jul 3, 2001 04:39 PM ]
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bidsbids
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posted on July 3, 2001 05:37:41 PM
The 3,000+ $1-Sale listings running after the sale ends makes sense. There were hundreds of the listings running well before the sale started. Why follow rules ....
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kasmoon
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posted on July 3, 2001 06:33:32 PM
So a poster states the FACT that the $1 sellers did not follow guidelines by closing on time and gets called an immature jerk? No wonder I usually stay off this board. It would seem cuff found up2's post useful though, she rushed to BV's chat area minutes later posting for people to get those ads closed.
There are still 2,200 open at this minute. In spite of how I'll get labeled and insulted I have to ask anyway. Does anyone have a reasonable explanation how a 14 day sale still has ads with 16-20 days left?
Wallypog When my seller friends told me about BV they said 99 relists was it's greatest feature. I wasn't interested in that, I have never used more than 3 relists on any ad. I have many repeat customers who I feel would desert me if I had the same old stuff running all the time. Obviously I would be all for BV limiting it to 10 or less. JMHO
I recall a thread about a seller who has gotten numerous & constant negs for not contacting winners. He apparently parked several hundred ads and never returned. The ads must be on numerous relists because the negs have kept coming for 2 months. Someone suggested the site boot the ads of users who haven't signed in for a month. That sounds like a good place to start.
I believe it was around May when BV stated 99 relists would no longer be allowed on 1 and 3 day ads. The 1 day ads posted before then should run out soon enough but the 3 day ads could potentially sit there until next Feb. IMO it would help a lot if BV would boot those too. I'm sure the sellers would scream but I think it's much more important that the buyers don't get sick of looking at same stuff every 3 days until next Feb.
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dimview
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posted on July 3, 2001 06:58:08 PM
kasmoon >
cuff ... rushed to [Bidville] minutes later posting for people to get those ads closed.
I don't participate in the chatboards on the auctionsite but, dang, if they ain't a funny read.
Does anyone have a reasonable explanation how a 14 day sale still has ads with 16-20 days left?
Lacking the ability to read and follow simple instructions.
I have never used more than 3 relists on any ad. I have many repeat customers who I feel would desert me if I had the same old stuff running all the time. Obviously I would be all for BV limiting it to 10 or less.
I'm sure the sellers would scream but I think it's much more important that the buyers don't get sick of looking at same stuff
Any suggestions about limiting relists to a reasonable number will be well-received by auction sellers. It's the inventory warehousers that are ranting.
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wallypog
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posted on July 3, 2001 07:15:48 PM
As the organizer of the auction sale I should've made sure everyone understood that auctions were to end no later than the 2nd. I did state in the guidelines that auctions were to end on or before July 2nd--probably should have made sure it was in bold print.
I wrote to BidVille a while ago and asked if they could do anything about it, at the very least e-mail everyone and let them know that the sale has ended and that those auctions need to be ended and all high bids honored.
Yes, folks, I am all for no more than 5 auto-relists. IMO that is a long enough time before a seller should be re-thinking their auction and possibly making it more attractive to buyers. I just put up a few more auctions this afternoon--with no auto relists.
Unfortunately the listing process at BidVille makes it very attractive for sellers to leave their auctions running. If you use the gallery feature on one of your auctions it will remain for up to three re-lists for the first quarter price. In some cases 3 re-lists may not be too much but as I've said before, judging by my page views it is too many.
Oh well. I'm tired. I've had a hectic last couple of days and what seemed like a million auctions end with bids (definately NOT complaining about that, LOL). I think I'm going to meander away from this computer and find a room that's a few degrees cooler. The official high today was 106 so out here it was probably 110 or above and it's not cooling down in any big hurry.
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dimview
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posted on July 3, 2001 07:23:53 PM
wallypog >
As the organizer of the auction sale I should've made sure everyone understood that auctions were to end no later than the 2nd. I did state in the guidelines that auctions were to end on or before July 2nd--probably should have made sure it was in bold print.
No, wallypog. You did enough.
You provided the instructions and it was the responsibility of every participant to read and adhere to them.
Those who didn't either are incapable of reading and following instructions, or they just plain didn't care.
That's why there were $1-SALE auctions running with opening bids of one penny, and as kasmoon points out 30-day auctions on a 14-day program.
No, you did more than enough.
[ edited by dimview on Jul 3, 2001 07:25 PM ]
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cuff
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posted on July 3, 2001 07:43:06 PM
I think you will find with a more thorough investigation that I requested the sale end as advertised LONG before anything was mentioned about it here.
msCuFF@BIDVILLE
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cuff
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posted on July 3, 2001 07:57:09 PM
dimview: will be inventory warehoused without the tag in the title next week and still available for a buck.
I was responding to the above statement and I am very tired of arguing with you people. You obviously stick together in your efforts to thwart any new little site that comes along and has something positive to report. You're probably all as burnt out as I obviously am. I'm done here for a while. I hope you are content to believe you are somehow increasing your sales by bashing other smaller sites. What ever rolls your socks up and down is fine by me.
cya,
CuFF
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bidsbids
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posted on July 3, 2001 08:00:41 PM
Actually sometimes it's a fairly lawless group over there. Take the message boards for instance. There is a Shameless Plugs board expressly for plugging your own auctions. Many members ignore it it a plug their auctions in the other message areas. Very rude behavior and they laugh it off when a user reminds them that there is a designated area for that type of thing.
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dimview
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posted on July 6, 2001 01:39:41 PM
Great news! The $1-SALE continues!!
A little scaled down, mind you, but just over 1,300 items nonetheless.
In fact, if you search with $1-SALE as your keyword and then sort by end date for the most recently listed items, you'll even find items listed TODAY as 20- and 30-day auctions.
And what's the median bid price? Why a buck, of course.
[ edited by dimview on Jul 6, 2001 02:02 PM ]
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bidsbids
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posted on July 6, 2001 01:56:31 PM
What's really funny is the beloved Prez suggested a $5 sale with free shipping a short while back and it was met with less-than-eager enthusiam. I just checked and see BV has apparently deleted the entire thread out of embarassement perhaps. Maybe he realized that there aren't enough $5 items to have such a sale? That'll show him to suggest anything on his own site.
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deichen
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posted on July 6, 2001 02:15:31 PM
Bidsbids says:
I just checked and see BV has apparently deleted the entire thread out of embarassement perhaps. Maybe he realized that there aren't enough $5 items to have such a sale? That'll show him to suggest anything on his own site.
Guess what? The thread is still there! He did not start the thread, just commented in it. Maybe you should double check your facts, before you blubber!
I would post the address but believe it is against CG. It is not hard to find.
Another Dimview wannabe! What next? LOL
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bidsbids
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posted on July 6, 2001 03:53:37 PM
Other than the minor error about the thread still being there ... what about the rest of my post? The BVers totally shot down the Prez's idea at every turn. The dozen Canadian and foreign sellers on the site would be left out, heavy items would be too expensive to ship for free, etc.
After that abrupt snub by his own townspeople I can't see him posting anymore "ideas" on his site.
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jimhhow
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posted on July 6, 2001 04:30:33 PM
"After that abrupt snub by his own townspeople I can't see him posting anymore "ideas" on his site."
The prez has posted other ideas and suggestions before. He has stated that he does so to get responses. I don't see why he would refrain in the future. The members at Bidville are not zombies, and the prez respects that and invites the opinions of the people that use the site. Otherwise, he would just anounce it, and not ask or suggest.
Anyway, back on topic, I just went to Yahoo and entered "$1 sale" in the search box, (complete with qoutation marks)
That resulted in 981 auction listings. I guess the number was fewer because they have fewer auctions listed then Bidville does.
Of course, most of the ones I saw were not actually for $1.00, including the $10,000,000.00 one from Budapest.
I guess the quality site naturally attracts the higher prices like that.
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dimview
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posted on July 6, 2001 05:05:45 PM
And another interesting search:
$1-SALE as your keyword again, but this time sort by price and look at the "high priced" ones. There you will find $1-SALE auctions without any bids listed at $2.00 (ends soon) and three for $5.00.
How the heck did that happen?
[ edited by dimview on Jul 6, 2001 05:31 PM ]
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kasmoon
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posted on July 6, 2001 06:24:21 PM
Jim
I'm not sure I understand your point about looking for $1 sale items on Yahoo. Yahoo did not claim to be having a "2 week only special sale".
"I guess the quality site naturally attracts the higher prices like that."
Apparently your statement is correct despite your tone. There were 980 ads when I looked. I sorted by bids and did a little math (ugh!)
75 with bids totaling $84,407.82. That's an avg bid of $1,125.43.
If we kick out the $75,000. real estate bid (though I'm not sure why we should) that leaves 74 with bids totaling $9,407.82, avg bid of $127.13.
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dimview
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posted on July 6, 2001 07:08:30 PM
kasmoon,
I understand that the average dollar value of a Yahoo auction is around $40.
Earlier today I looked at pages of closed Bidville auctions and concluded that the median dollar value for auctions there is $1.00 and that the average dollar value for acutions is probably around $2.00.
My own selling experience, and in the few pageviews and even fewer bidders environment that is Bidville it really is an *experience*, is three sales at $1.00 each.
Not a single Bidville seller has offered to share their "statistics" of how many items they've sold and the total value of those items sold.
I find that revealing.
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deichen
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posted on July 6, 2001 08:00:37 PM
My average dollar amount on my auctions is between $15.00 and $20.00. It always has been, even on Yahoo. I do not sell anything for $1.00.
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dimview
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posted on July 6, 2001 08:58:44 PM
deichen,
Has your sell-through rate improved since you reported:
posted on February 1, 2001 04:22:09 AM
I have had one bid on Bidbay and one on Bidville, not that great, but I haven't had any on Yahoo in days either!
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=6&id=15840&thread=15823
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