wedoclick
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posted on July 21, 2001 10:35:29 AM
Listing prices! In todays slow buyers response do you monitor how many items sell out of ten? The rest of them are relisted, which eats away at your profit. How many times did you relist a product? Just think about it. BargainandHaggle has a great economic advantage on the market today. No wonder it is growing by leaps and bounds. Do not worry about deadbeats. It is easy to spot them with a click of a botton on buyers history, and you can always walk away. wedoclick
[ edited by wedoclick on Jul 23, 2001 07:49 PM ]
[ edited by wedoclick on Jul 23, 2001 08:06 PM ]
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joice
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posted on July 21, 2001 11:02:39 AM
wedoclick,
Here is a copy of the post that I deleted. I had a feeling you meant to respond to the thread rather than create a new thread.
I am in agreement with bevhead. The site has grown to over 100,000 listings in a couple of months. You can find everything on that site, from collectors plates to top quality items of very good porcelain and crystals in every category. bargainandhaggle: wedoclick
Joice
[email protected]
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quickdraw29
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posted on July 22, 2001 11:34:59 AM
Ebay has record revenues because they bring in the buyers, which means more success for the sellers.
The first relist is free, bringing your sub listing price to .15¢. Not bad when you consider that ebay advertises, and generates a strong word of mouth advertising by its users.
If you're selling slow selling items then it makes sense to list somewhere other than ebay, but that won't necessarily improve your sell through rate, which you conveniently didn't mention. But spending .60¢ and two free relists on ebay and selling the item in a month is more profitable than having an item sit on B&H for three months for free. The advantage of B&H is that your upfront (lack of) costs limit your risks.
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wedoclick
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posted on July 23, 2001 08:05:17 PM
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Hi quickdraw29,
Here is a copy, I got from ebay, when I got curious how you can list for an average of 60 cents on ebay.
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peachsupreme
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posted on July 23, 2001 08:16:11 PM
The problem is, what if they don't havea buyer history. I've had sveral people who just registered and gave me an offer and when I accepted they never contacted me and one guy even said he wanted $5 for a black hills gold pendant and he offered $350!!!! I never had problems like that at EBay. its better to pay listings thatn have people accept offers and never pay.
Susanne
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toollady
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posted on July 23, 2001 08:21:30 PM
wedoclick,
not everyone posts with their auction IDs. You won't find me at ebay under this ID either.
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thepriest
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posted on July 24, 2001 01:29:57 PM
Re: eBay relists...
A relist is only FREE if - if - the item sells the 2nd time.
There are not free relists...
bargainandhaggle works well for us... like others - we sometimes list the same item on both....
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kitcatclock
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posted on July 25, 2001 03:52:40 AM
I think priest brings up an excellent point about Bargain and Haggle. Because it is not an auction and your not locked into a time limit in which you MUST be willing to sell the item, Bargain and Haggle gives a lot more flexibility for shop owners, etc. I no longer have to take items off my shop floor in hopes that the item MIGHT fetch a fair price on an auction. I can list on B & H and keep it on the floor. Whichever sells first, wins. If I sell it in my store, I don't have to pay any sort of penalty for removing it from Bargain and Haggle. I love the flexibility.
-KC
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wedoclick
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posted on July 25, 2001 09:16:39 AM
I would like to thank all of you for your reply. Everyone here has a good point, or two ! Listing at bargainandhaggle simultaneously with ebay makes a lot of sense. My observation is, that the flocking order is still exist, people with 500 + selling success can sell anything, even when it is inferior to what you are offering. But that does not bother me. What bothers me, is that once a wonderful venue, ebay decided to attract liquidators, wholesalers etc. I do not grudge the money they are making this way. But since they decided to limit mail contacts between buyer and seller and decided to be the intermediary mailman, a lot of attention is given to that, at the exchange of search engines. The other day I punched in "swarovsky" to see if I find my listing. The search engine brought up seven items in that category. I know that there are hundreds of items listed there, but unless you know the number or the seller ID, you won't get results. Now if a new buyer enters the market and wants to buy items in that category and see only seven items, they will go elsewhere. You still pay listing fees for the item, that does not show. The deadbeats? You find them anywhere. I sold on ebay 10 chairs and a sideboard for the amount of $ 5000.00, but the buyer still
didn't pay. Ofter a month of waiting for the cheque, I email-ed, and the answer was that since they didn't get the matching table to the set, they decided against it. They claimed, that they were sniped at the last minute, and the table went to another buyer. Curtesy to let me know about their decision? Non existent. At least at bargainandhaggle you can spot the deadbeats with the click of a button. Here is a tip: Now if I see a seller on ebay, that has the merchandise I collect, I ask questions. That way I can find out the email address, and ask if they have a similar item to the one that went out of site. It is good for the seller, and works for me. It just shows: there is always a way.wedoclick
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peachsupreme
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posted on July 25, 2001 11:05:52 AM
What also we have to do is rate the deadbeats. B&H says to get a credit oif they don't contact you after seven days. So what I do I give them all my info if I don't hear from them in seven days, bad feedback!!! Most good buyers will contact you right away. I've only found one person who e-mailed me right away then backed off on it.
If some people hadn't waited so long to rate a seller I would've avoided her. So I think that is the way to go on any auction site!
Susanne
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thepriest
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posted on July 27, 2001 01:26:46 PM
good info.... thanks
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bidsbids
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posted on July 27, 2001 02:09:50 PM
I've always thought it was 30 cents to list once on eBay and then the game of "double or nothing" starts. If the listing doesn't sell after 2 tries you owe 60 cents. Isn't that the way it is?
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ragstoo
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posted on July 28, 2001 05:57:59 AM
B&H: What a cool site! So easy to list and the pics look great! All the same size, but excellent enlargements with a click. I think there was so much thought given this site, and they make continuous improvements without crashing! There is a page you can bring up for dead-beat returns. Also I understand they have started the 3 strikes and you're out!! And the great thing is dead-beats can't neg you. This is either in the works or is in effect now. If they only were an auction...... Maybe someday?? Seems to be growing very quickly. Hope the buyers turn out.
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emak
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posted on July 28, 2001 06:16:58 AM
Ragstoo,
I agree with you that this is a terrific site - but I personally hope it NEVER becomes an auction. There are SOOO many auction sites up and running now. What we've needed is a site with a different concept, and that's exactly what B&H is. It gives control to both the buyer and seller in each transaction.
With so much discussion about auctions becoming less popular in place of Buy it Now purchases, I think the B&H concept is just what was needed.
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thepriest
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posted on July 28, 2001 07:52:05 AM
moving well for us
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wedoclick
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posted on July 28, 2001 11:28:25 AM
I though all of you would like to know:
bargainandhaggle just implemented a "three strike and you are out" policy for deadbeats. They send email to the buyer reminding them of their obligation, If they do not answer, they get one strike. So they can likely do it three times, but my guess is, they won't. Once a reminder to pay up or else is there, they probably won't place another offer.
Another thing: there is a new button for 'Request for credit", just fill out the details. No more email back and forth. wedoclick
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thepriest
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posted on August 1, 2001 10:33:24 AM
yes, the new credit for deadbeat system is much better.
But, I think they may need to implement a stronger policy as other sites have done.
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aliceroad
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posted on August 1, 2001 07:35:25 PM
If I list books on B&H will they be seen anywhere besides on their site?
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wlaschin
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posted on August 1, 2001 08:59:10 PM
What type of fees does bargainandhaggle charge?....
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eSeller004
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posted on August 2, 2001 04:42:41 AM
BargainandHaggle has free listings and only charges a FVF. This is the approach Yahoo should have taken and they'd be knocking on eBay's door! 
BargainandHaggle Fees link:
http://www.bargainandhaggle.com/help/pricing.asp
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ezinkjetstore
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posted on August 2, 2001 04:50:02 AM
aliceroad,
as far as I know, your B&H listings can only be found on B&H
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kafy4x4
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posted on August 2, 2001 06:27:51 AM
I've read these boards and desided to list on B&H. I sold both of the items I listed in less than 5 days! I think it is a great site. I think it impowers both the seller and buyer in the transaction, which is something that I hear a lot of complaining about on other sites. Added cost after the sale, NPB...the list goes on. I'm not a power seller, so the site works well for me.
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thepriest
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posted on August 3, 2001 06:51:12 PM
more good info - thanks
we had a couple of deadbeats with bandh, but, bandh got on them... and now appears we'll get paid.
We list on other sites as well...
It is clean, easy to use... rates a little high, but the 30-day free list helps.
I think eBay buyers are beginning to gain confidence and migrate to other sites. Bargainandhaggle.com is really a natural.
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katiyana
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posted on August 9, 2001 09:13:13 AM
I've been hearing a lot of good things about B&H so I've listed 4 things on there this morning and I'll put some more up tonight when I get home - since your pictures have to come from your computer instead of an HTML pointer. Fees are higher than I'd like, but if they sell, I"ll take it...
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on August 9, 2001 08:51:54 PM
Can you have pictures on auctionwatch and list them on BargainAndHaggle? The site looks really interesting but I do not have hosting space other than AW to use.
I think it could give eBay a run for its money, though. It seems to have a clean look with some really interesting functions.
By the way, who is ranked #1 on that site? Any way to find that information?
Thanks in advance!
BECKY
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joice
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posted on August 9, 2001 09:05:40 PM
MrsSantaClaus,
Please ask your image question in the Services forum. A Customer Care Rep should be able to get back to you in the morning.
Joice
[email protected]
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on August 9, 2001 09:53:40 PM
Thanks, Joice!
And, a belated big thank you for the tip for my daughter! It works wonders!
Becky
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eSeller004
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posted on August 10, 2001 04:39:45 AM
MrsSantaClaus,
BargainandHaggle hosts all of your pictures for you for free. They don't allow remote hosting. Your pics do have to adhere to a 100K size limit or they won't show up. They allow up to 3 pics per listing.
It's the simplest site to list on that I've run across since the listing form is short and allows very little HTML. However, even with little HTML functionality, their listing pages are very attractive. The site's color scheme is just great and enhances your listings!
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eSeller004
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posted on August 10, 2001 04:50:48 AM
You can find out who's the #1 seller on the site by looking at the main page:
http://www.bargainandhaggle.com/index.asp
There's a box on the left hand side that lists the IDs of the top 5 sellers on the site. You can click on their IDs and view all of their auctions and their selling history. The top seller has completed 522 successful negotiations since May 3, 2001. Business must be booming even during the slowest period of the year! Extrapolate their success the last 3 months over the next 9 months, when sales usually pick up, and they'll complete somewhere between 2000 to 4000 transactions. Not bad for a small site, and they're probably using BargainandHaggle to augment their eBay and Yahoo sales.
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on August 16, 2001 12:41:37 PM
Thanks, all! I am gonna catch up on listing some items on eBay - then I will play a bit with bargainandhaggle this weekend.
BECKY
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