dimview
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posted on August 6, 2001 01:02:19 PM new
Interesting.
Clicking around Bidville's website in the past hour or so, looking at the source code, and it seems that the snipets for Engage/Flycast advertisement banners and the "occasional" pop-ups has been removed.
At least I cannot find the javascript that launches them anywhere.
Did dimview, by pointing out the source code snipets from Engage/Flycast, and the resulting launching of pop-ups in browsers, prompt the apparent change?
Hmmmmm, one has to wonder.
[ edited by dimview on Aug 6, 2001 01:27 PM ]
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toollady
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posted on August 6, 2001 01:06:11 PM new
Perhaps Engage/flycast WAS the source of the porno pop up and after review, Bidville's prez found that out.
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CuFF
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posted on August 6, 2001 02:05:27 PM new
Aren't there already two threads in discussion about this issue?
It cracks me up that you would publicly take credit for anything BidVille. Do you really believe that BV management waits with baited breath for your every post?
I don't think so.
Have a great day everyone!
CuFF
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dimview
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posted on August 6, 2001 02:13:10 PM new
GettaLife Cuff >
Do you really believe that BV management waits with baited breath for your every post?
Why, yes, I do.
< GRIN >
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CuFF
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posted on August 6, 2001 02:26:51 PM new
Now THAT is very telling in itself.
BTW, my ID is now CuFF. My ID is not GettaLife CuFF. I received an email from AW stating that there was some confusion (yours?) with the ID GettaLife as someone had used it before, and that it would eliminate confusion if I changed my ID (my choice). I did so immediately because I saw no problem with it. So... I tell you what... If you don't call me GettaLife CuFF I won't publicly refer to you as dimwit. Deal?
CuFF 
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dimview
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posted on August 6, 2001 02:32:31 PM new
BTW, it should also be noted that I still find FastClick source code on Bidville's webpages, but the snipet I compiled earlier appears to be "dead" code. Doesn't do anything anymore.
Dropping the GettaLife works for me. I thought you might have been using two identities, but being Cuff is just fine.
[ edited by dimview on Aug 6, 2001 02:36 PM ]
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CuFF
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posted on August 6, 2001 02:43:12 PM new
Thanks for your cooperation!
CuFF
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RB
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posted on August 6, 2001 02:44:04 PM new
Perhaps Engage/flycast WAS the source of the porno pop up and after review, Bidville's prez found that out.
Yes, and guess who told him about it?
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bidsbids
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posted on August 6, 2001 03:10:45 PM new
DimView saves BV ... and all the while she is belittled on BV even though she is a seller there.
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toollady
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posted on August 6, 2001 03:56:48 PM new
Okay, just for the record, is dimview a he or a she?
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jimhhow
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:39:08 PM new
Dimview, there have been numerous threads at the site discussing the problem.
If the situation is such that the prez made a change to alleviate the situation, I credit him with listening to the concerns of the members there.
I am not trying to discuss threads on another site, I just want to point out that this is not the only site for communication and imformation about Bidville.
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RB
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posted on August 6, 2001 04:55:57 PM new
But, it is the only alternative site for some of us to discuss Bidville 
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CuFF
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posted on August 6, 2001 05:19:55 PM new
There's always email.
CuFF
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RB
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posted on August 6, 2001 06:33:32 PM new
"He" doesn't have the courtesy to reply to my emails ...
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CuFF
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posted on August 6, 2001 07:44:11 PM new
I'm sorry RB. I misunderstood...
I thought you were looking for an alternate venue to voice your thoughts about what's going on at the BV boards to your friends here at AW.
Considering that you only stopped bringing BV issues here because you received a warning I'm not sure I'd be all that anxious to reply to your email either.
Patience is a virtue.
CuFF
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RB
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posted on August 6, 2001 08:42:59 PM new
It had (has) nothing to do with any warning
And my unanswered (unacknowledged even) emails to "Him" were only to get answers to questions that "His" followers are asking and who are also not getting answers to ...
Moderator - I thought this kind of reference was a no-no here:
I thought you were looking for an alternate venue to voice your thoughts about what's going on at the BV boards to your friends here at AW
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dimview
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posted on August 7, 2001 06:33:48 AM new
jimhhow >
Dimview, there have been numerous threads at the site discussing the problem. If the situation is such that the prez made a change to alleviate the situation, I credit him with listening to the concerns of the members there.
I draw a distinction between "discussing" pop-ups and the software that kills them, as though they simply "pop-up" randomly, and identifying and providing an explanation that the pop-ups "pop-up" because Bidville specifically included the source code snipet on their webpages that launched them.
There was extensive "discussion" about the problem, nothing was done. They problematic source code snipets were removed shortly after my AuctionWatch "exclusive."
I am not trying to discuss threads on another site, I just want to point out that this is not the only site for communication and imformation about Bidville.
Neither am I.
But I think its time for the Bidville CheerLeaders to chime in here with a hearty "Thanks Dimview."
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jimhhow
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posted on August 7, 2001 06:55:36 AM new
"But I think its time for the Bidville CheerLeaders to chime in here with a hearty "Thanks Dimview." "
See, I knew you had a sense of humor, now you've proven it.
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CuFF
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posted on August 7, 2001 07:49:06 AM new
Just wanted to let ya'll know I just received two spy cam pop-ups via my email.
To clarify my position as a BidVille Cheerleader I would like to say that if I had seen what I saw (the same people rushing to bash whoever dares to post anything at AW reference to BV) and it had been any other small site trying to make it my initial post would have been the same. THAT is how I came to be involved in the boards at AW. I'm an American and I think people should be able to freely post here without having to deal with a select few who choose to jump in the second a thread appears, throw the thread completely off topic, and basically make people leery to post for fear it will only turn into something nasty.
Because I dared to speak I am labelled a Cheerleader... that's fine. But you should understand that my role is not so much because of BidVille (I just happen to choose to sell there), but in response to anyone being throttled just because they choose to have an opinion, or report something positive.
And dim... if your post had anything at all to do with the pop-ups being gone from BidVille, I would still thank Ed, and I have. When you can prove you are responsible I'll reconsider. For now I see it only as a slip, as we all know how you really feel about BV, and I don't believe you would intentionally help in any way, shape or form.
CuFF
msCuFF@BIDVILLE
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SaraAW
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posted on August 7, 2001 07:52:19 AM new
Everyone,
Please address the Topic of the thread and refrain from making personal comments to each other.
Thank you,
Sara
[email protected]
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RB
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posted on August 7, 2001 07:59:01 AM new
Oooops there ... it was I who first pointed out the pop-up problem to BV ... I'd like to share some of Dim's credit please (and thank you) ...
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dimview
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posted on August 7, 2001 08:03:54 AM new
Cuff, referring to dimview >
I don't believe you would intentionally help in any way, shape or form.
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=33&thread=13134
Ironic, isn't it?
[ edited by dimview on Aug 7, 2001 08:13 AM ]
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CuFF
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posted on August 7, 2001 08:30:45 AM new
I would post a few URL's myself that would show what I have described, however I do not wish to go off topic in doing so.
The problem is solved at BidVille. I would urge everyone to write to your Congressman about these invasive pop-ups that insert
commands into your registries. To me, it equates to Breaking & Entering of personal property. Ad killers and other programs designed to alleviate this problem cannot possibly keep up. Let your governmental representatives know about this problem. Hopefully, quick action will be taken to elimate it.
CuFF
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dimview
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posted on August 7, 2001 08:38:58 AM new
Cuff >
I would post a few URL's myself that would show what I have described, however I do not wish to go off topic in doing so.
The problem is solved at BidVille. I would urge everyone to write to your Congressman about these invasive pop-ups that insert commands into your registries. To me, it equates to Breaking & Entering of personal property. Ad killers and other programs designed to alleviate this problem cannot possibly keep up. Let your governmental representatives know about this problem. Hopefully, quick action will be taken to elimate it.
This makes no sense to me. The pop-ups appeared because Bidville inserted the source code snipet that made them launch.
Are you suggesting that your legislator propose a law that would make Bidville (and others who similarly insert pop-up launching source code on their webpages) liable for "breaking and entering."
So while some folks are falling over each other thanking Bidville for solving the "problem," they seem to forget that it was Bidville that created the "problem" in the first place.
[ edited by dimview on Aug 7, 2001 08:41 AM ]
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RB
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posted on August 7, 2001 08:39:23 AM new
Your Congressmen are, ahem, too busy with other issues ...
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bidsbids
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posted on August 7, 2001 08:49:37 AM new
Thanks Dim, You figured it out and deserve credit.
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RB
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posted on August 7, 2001 09:22:58 AM new
Hear! Hear!
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ballsandstrikes
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posted on August 7, 2001 09:39:23 AM new
WHAT A VIVID IMAGINATION!!!!!!!!
GHEESH
http://ballsandstrikescollectibles.beckett.com/
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RB
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posted on August 7, 2001 09:51:18 AM new
WHAT A VIVID IMAGINATION
Right! (As if the Congressmen even care about such nonsense as pop-ups on internet sites)
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dimview
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posted on August 7, 2001 10:04:05 AM new
RB >
As if the Congressmen even care about such nonsense as pop-ups on internet sites.
They are to some extent addressing the issue of UCE (unsolicited commercial e-mail) because spammers frequently forward their spamvertisements through mis-configured mail servers and relays. The spammers costs have been shifted to others.
The issue of internet sites is a totally different story. Websites can put anything they want on their sites, insert any source code they want in their webpages. Visitors to websites do so voluntarily, therefore if a visitor doesn't like advertisement banners, pop-ups, or anything else about a website, they can simply click the back button and never visit again.
typo.
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