jimhhow
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posted on August 29, 2001 09:26:54 AM new
Just wanted to let Aw readers know that as of yesterday, The Bidville prez has announced a non-credit card verification system on Bidville, and has also modified the community there. These are positive changes. Do you think they, especially the verification will help further improve the site?
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dimview
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posted on August 29, 2001 09:39:01 AM new
jimhhow >
a non-credit card verification system
Do you think they, especially the verification will help further improve the site?
Yes, provided there is a policy in place to suspend deadbeats after four (or whatever) non-paying bidder (NPB) incidents.
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bidsbids
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posted on August 29, 2001 09:56:28 AM new
The new verification system should keep out the very non-computer savvy users for a while. I challenged a friend to get an account on BV last night with a free account and he had one in less than four minutes. Do you want me to post the very simple way he did it? I think eBay pays a lot of money on their ISP verification search engine and BV just threw something together to calm the restless natives.
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Excalibur131
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posted on August 29, 2001 10:07:23 AM new
I would be interested in seeing how he did it ... please post.
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RB
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posted on August 29, 2001 10:17:50 AM new
Well guys ... you know me. I was suspended quite some time ago. This morning I was able to create two new BV ids without a credit card and using hotmail. I won't be using them though (honest Ed!).
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jimhhow
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posted on August 29, 2001 11:03:40 AM new
Well, that would be a change now wouldn't it RB?
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jimhhow
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posted on August 29, 2001 11:06:14 AM new
Yes bids, I think we would be interested, we know the system is not perfect, the Prez said so. But I am sure that pointing out any flaws found would be helpful.
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bidsbids
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posted on August 29, 2001 11:57:55 AM new
RB, my friend never took the super obvious route and used hotmail  Okay, a person goes to a search engine and enters "free email". There are several sites that list over 1,000 web sites with free email accounts. Try to avoid sites that have "mail" in their email addresses or common free email sites ( of course, hotmail.com worked for RB though ). Some sites take on a minute to get an email address that you'd swear was a paid ISP email address. eBay will block 99% of these and must have spider robots gathering the new ones every day.
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dimview
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posted on August 29, 2001 12:02:14 PM new
Perhaps verification is in the to-be-implemented phase, and not really in place yet?
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rustybore
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posted on August 29, 2001 12:04:36 PM new
I'd be happy to deal with some percentage of deadbeats on Bidville --- if it only ment that I was getting some pageviews and bids!
From my observations, deadbeats are a mute point when I list an auction for weeks and get 0 page views...
Seems to me whatever efforts were put into this free email blocking thing would have been better put to use in some other direction - advertising perhaps?
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exexec
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posted on August 29, 2001 12:31:34 PM new
Your question was will the changes "....help further improve the site?"
The change that will improve the site is when the Prez STOPS catering to the mob and re-takes control of his own site! As I said on another thread...
"BV Prez has abdicated his "leadership" chair and the inmates are running the asylum. A small group of people are running rampant spouting words like "what's best for BV" when, in reality, they are only concerned with their own power. A real shame....BV had some potential."
No thanks..... I'll take my business (and money) elsewhere.
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dimveiw
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posted on August 29, 2001 12:38:50 PM new
I agree. I cant understand how all the Bidville cheeleaders with not 1/2 the intelligence I have think they can run the site!
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bidsbids
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posted on August 29, 2001 12:39:43 PM new
I seem to rember reading something liked this somewhere ... A system similar to most other auction sites has been put in place as of today... dated yesterday
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RB
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posted on August 29, 2001 12:52:08 PM new
Dim ... you must be referring to "The Posse/"My Gang"/The Illiterate 3 Stooges" eh
btw, the term "my gang" is verbatim from an email I received from the Prez yesterday!!
exexec ... what a great expression to describe the situation! Hope you don't mind if I use it someday
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dimveiw
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posted on August 29, 2001 12:54:37 PM new
You know it is a shame when people resort to name calling because they are too stupid to make valid points. I am so glad I have my best friend the calculator.
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RB
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:01:04 PM new
Actually I may just use one of my new IDs over there ... not to "disrupt" anyone or even say anything, but to just sit back and enjoy the circus!
Dim ...
"The Posse" is what they call themselves ...
"My gang" is what Steady-Eddie calls them ...
"The I3S" is what I call them ...
Even if someone did mention names here, it wouldn't mean anything anyway ... they're all phoney IDs being used by members who have a problem with members using phoney IDs ...
D'Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!
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pattaylor
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:07:01 PM new
dimview,
Your comment:
You know it is a shame when people resort to name calling because they are too stupid to make valid points.
is very close to the line. Please drop it down a notch.
Pat
[email protected]
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kasmoon
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:08:12 PM new
I don't even have an ISP email or account. I share a pc and the ISP email is in their name. I had used only Yahoo mail but several sites I wanted to sign up refused free mail addresses. So I got a free mail with a .net instead of .com and every single site that claimed to reject free mails has accepted it without hesitation for years.
Anyway, with all the member demands for any verification type action the past several days a troublemaker would have to be a complete idiot not to see this coming and have prepared. It was pretty easy to guess the change would only involve new sign-ups so I don't doubt these people went ahead and grabbed lots of new id's the past few days to store for future use. If not, I'm sure with 1500 freemail sites across the web they can still find plenty that will work there.
As far as modifying the community one deleted board contained many warnings of deadbeat bidder and seller IDs some of us found quite useful knowing who to avoid. So positive change? I guess as far as getting rid of the evidence detailing the rip-offs & deadbeats on the site does look better for unsuspecting new members. Forbidding discussion of other auction sites is very controlling and ebayesque which was something I thought site supporters were against. Now they cheer all these new restrictions, go figure.
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dimview
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:12:54 PM new
pattaylor,
I suggest you take a closer look at the userIDs before issuing your directives.
There is a big difference between dimview and dimveiw.
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pattaylor
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:16:52 PM new
dimview,
You're absolutely right. My apologies for the oversight.
The posting privileges for user dimveiw have been suspended.
Pat
[email protected]
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RB
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:17:03 PM new
Arghh ... it's a conspiracy! AW has been invaded by a not-quite-perfect clone in an attempt to disrupt this forum. Either that or one of The I3S never got to that spelling lesson ...
Pat ... do I see a supension coming here
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jimhhow
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:20:33 PM new
Whhooops!, I didn't even catch that, I thought is was you, Dim. anyway pat, please lock this.
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dimwhit
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:24:51 PM new
Yes I agree. Lock it!
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bidsbids
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:29:21 PM new
It seems that AW is almost easier to get a new ID than BV
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dimview
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:32:26 PM new
Well, we've accounted to two bogus accounts thus far. Wonder how many userIDs were registered today.
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dimwhit
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:33:08 PM new
Hi Bidsbids Will you PLEAZE be my mommies friend? Daddy wont mind cause it will get her off his computer and out of the house!
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dimwhit
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:34:14 PM new
Mommy are you calling me BOGUS??? Is it my fault I am your bastard child with the calculator repair man??
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jinhhow
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:35:43 PM new
Whoops pat, please leave this thread open because it's stimulating conversation to read about the real bidville and not the phony one I use to believe in. Thanks
[ edited by jinhhow on Aug 29, 2001 01:39 PM ]
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bidsbids
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:37:16 PM new
Getting nasty in here now Thanks Jim for not ending the thread ......
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jimhhow
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posted on August 29, 2001 01:38:05 PM new
There oughta be law.....
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