barncards1
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posted on November 22, 2001 05:25:38 PM new
Help the site grow????
Lets keep it clean ok..... at some point in everyone's life they need some advise even if they have money & brains.
I have read and read what you all have said but for the main reason BV is not working like some though it should {{ my point of view only }}
on every board that anything could and can be posted too, about a new website BV has been bashed and bashed to know end. Even today you have went there and came back here to post that someone was so stupid and could not find something.....Also complaning about the way the site has not done this or not done that.... Also I posted to wallypog and you come back and pick on me Why?? Does having a new web site, trying to grow into a Excellent place to auction your item's seem to be all that bad?? What is it with any of you, Do you not want to have internet space's to go and bid, win or buy out wright and item you think you can't live without?? Beckett, Ebay, Yahoo, all have been around for a while Hu!! The new websites are popping up all over the place and there are quite a few that don't even want to see them make it........WHY????
I my self have done things that I regret, I posted something to wally and should not have done it --- I should have waited for her to email me as I did email her first. I have jumped on a few other's at BV and do regret saying something bad about them...But life goes on.
The site is not a great site, I know as I sell there. Yes sell. Not high dollar item's but high dollar wanta be items, Inserts that on the Bay I sell for 10.00 up, only go for 5.00 up. and a very special item did sell for just under 50.00. also BV has improved over the past 10 months as now if you want to become part of it you have to join with a CC \\ just because of what people say and how they say it. Some people don't have a brain to help other's out with. If ebay was a brand new website who would go there with all there fees.... KNOW ONE.
We needed another auction house when yahoo did there thing so lots of sellers went to BV.
So my thoughts on trying to make me a new place to call home is at BidVille come he** or high water of which the later looks like a good one at this point in time and why, A BUNCH of no bodys that think they have all the brains GOD could pass out passed them all to them and know one else knows how to do a darn thing but them...
BV had a bunch of great folks and still does we have a few seller's that have over 300 feedbacks... one seller has over 10,000 item there...if he were not selling them do you think he would still be there?? I don't think so.
Now do your post only with HELPING THE SITE IN MIND AND NOT BASHING IT DEEPER INTO THE DIRT LIKE MOST OF YOU DO OK??
PLEASE:}}
JB:}} BV chearleader
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stavecards
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posted on November 22, 2001 06:19:28 PM new
JB,
I have been a supporter of Bidville since it started. My problem is not with the site, but with individuals who want to dominate the message boards. I include you in that group. I'm going to offer a piece of advice for whatever it is worth to you. Criticizing good sellers on the Bidville message board is not beneficial in helping the site grow. I know of several very good sellers who have left Bidville strictly because of the message boards or lack of response by CS to serious problems. It is not good for Bidville to lose quality sellers because of the criticism posted by you and others. Also I have to doubt the sincerity of your apologies. It appears to me that you want to criticize and then want to apologize when you catch a little heat. You must accept that others, beside yourself and your "friends", also have ideas to improve the site. These posts, such as the one by Wallypog, are made in an effort to improve the site, not to criticize. Bidville will not grow if you and your friends continue to act as the "thought police".
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reality1
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posted on November 22, 2001 06:22:03 PM new
OK JB you asked for it. 
Close all but the member to member help forum. NO CAFE NO PLUGS NO BRIGHT IDEAS.
The forums have been the downfall of BV from the start.
member since 1/28/01
go look
user name BYE!!!
Edited to add: looks like stavecards came to the same conclusion as me. I wonder how many more will agree?
[ edited by reality1 on Nov 22, 2001 06:28 PM ]
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bidsbids
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posted on November 22, 2001 08:07:44 PM new
JB, I NEVER said that someone was so stupid and could not find something. I said:If that doesn't show what an idiotic system that is in place at BV I don't what can better illustrate it.
I consider the BV poster that asked that simple question about a complex verification system to be one of BV's brightest members. Your a sweet guy JB, that drove for hours to give HillBilly's son a lot of cards when he was badly injured recently but you stir the BV pot a lot more than you apparently realize.
I can only agree with the other AW posters the BV boards should be completely or almost completely shut down. If several sellers/buyers leave the site because of this decision than it is a small price to pay to have the BV auction site look like a real venue instead of The Hee Haw Comedy Hour.
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RichHillbilly
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posted on November 22, 2001 08:11:13 PM new
I think Bidville needs to advertise, and the boards could use a moderator.
Hillbilly
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reality1
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posted on November 22, 2001 08:20:06 PM new
Hillybilly
I have to agree with you there. If Mr. Ed doesn't start spending some of that listing dollars on advertising the site is doomed. Word of mouth is ok but it won't cut the ice.
The Only moderator I can think of that could do the job right is AW's own Marty. The hanging moderator! LOL
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bidsbids
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posted on November 22, 2001 09:07:13 PM new
I agree with Hillbilly. The listings took a 20,000 item plunge in the last 3 days and some advertizing is needed. Some form of message board moderation other than locking or deleting threads without an explanation would be beneficial. ( Joice made Marty look like a schoolboy , IMHO ).
I admire HillBilly's courage to come here and speak his mind about 2 of BV's shortcomings. I hope Cuff doesn't jump down your throat for that action.
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barncards1
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posted on November 23, 2001 07:38:44 AM new
Stevescards::::
and how did I bash wallypog????
Hi Wally:
All Ya need to do is post it in your message. }}} Edit My Personal Message
{{{{ this is where to put your TOS that way it is all there, it goes to every auction all at one time.......stick around a bit and git involved some more......
JB:}}I don`t use one at all: did try it at the Bay but theone I chose had a virus in it....set my machine crazy so I have never tryed to use one ever since.
sure is busy here I have two more items to pack and ship out but it will be done friday..
the shop is getting people more so now..
the sale I did 58 items...
JB:}} Hows your other site doing????
There are the post I did for or to her trying to give my information....NOT A CUT DOWN IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM just my OPP.
Now I also think they need to do some addvertising & have had to do it for a long time---- looks like My new home is not going to work out so well........I tryed but the Bay still sells cards for me. I do not list to much anylonger at BV and my credit is getting up there.......
JB:}
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RB
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posted on November 23, 2001 07:49:35 AM new
I'll second what reality1 said ...
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stavecards
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posted on November 23, 2001 08:45:54 AM new
JB,
For those who can read between the lines, your message to Wallypog was obvious. Also do you remember your critical post of Wallypog after she posted a comment on AW? My reply to you above concerned more than just the replies to her bulk loader post. It concerned a general pattern of the replies to any post critical to Bidville. The obvious theme seems to be that the "clique" can request improvements and be critical, but it is blasphemy for anyone else to do so.
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barncards1
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posted on November 23, 2001 02:01:43 PM new
Steve:
"clique"
Are You saying I am in one of them?????? if so forget it man I do what the heck I want to do... know one tells me how too or what too say. My mind might not be like anyone elses but I do have one...Not much good for thinking with though ok.
JB:}}
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suziteacups7
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posted on November 23, 2001 03:54:13 PM new
No worries folks...CS LOCKED the thread! (Don't know if they caught Wallypog's original post knocking them, or a user there "turned them in"---they didn't explain)
JB-- one of YOUR threads soon to be locked too---Rosie and Case are now fighting and Case is swearing...all is not happy in Bidville-land
How sad. It was looking so promising. As it says in the message boards from CS before you submit:
You are responsible for your own words! Please be very careful with what you say on the boards. Our community is watching.
Think before you post. BV says "Our Community," it should mean "the whole auction community as so many folks here and many others see these "fights" too.
Sincerley, Suzi_Teacups
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bidsbids
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posted on November 23, 2001 05:05:39 PM new
BV is poorly laid out with a very bad foundation and a lot of things are beyond repair. The bulkloader is only one item that needs fixing. Kodi posted that she has seen no other bulkloader with a character limit and that is probably true ( see Kodi, I praise em when I can ). Another major BV error is the total lack of a description search. I believe that almost every auction site lets you search the auction descriptions but BV. There was a coming soon note on the search engine for about 8 months but it was replaced with a not available note a few months ago.
The weekly sales report was another abandoned project when those sales figures became harmful to publish. The list of BV weaknesses goes on and on and little is done to help those major flaws because they are unfixable due to poor initial site design. The site improvements that do trickle in are very minor bells & whistles that should have been added in the begining anyway.
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wallypog
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posted on November 23, 2001 10:11:35 PM new
I guess I'm not very good at reading between the lines because I really didn't feel that JB was attacking me.
I did feel that in his limited capacity he was trying to be helpful, and I appreciate that.
Unfortunately a solution like that can be seen as only temporary. That isn't a fix to the problem at all.
Some have expressed concern that having a viable bulk lister on BV would result in yet more auctions being warehoused. I'm not sure about that. It seems to me there are already quite a few 'warehoused' listings without much of a bulk lister.
As Suzi mentioned, BidVille locked my thread. I didn't even receive so much as a, 'Hey, we're sorry but we had to lock your thread, so on and so forth' from BidVille about the matter. I'd really like to know why my post was locked while other posts made by other members that turn into an all-out battle are left to run their course. My post wasn't even that bad.
I don't think I need BV to answer that one, though.
And before anyone decides to jump me for that last statement, it probably would just be a waste of time.
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http://www.wallypogsbog.com
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bidsbids
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posted on November 23, 2001 11:33:04 PM new
It was very obvious to me why the thread was locked by Bryan. It was becoming very combative at the end with several members aligning into split camps.
You have to put yourself into Bryan's shoes once in a while. I think most people in that circumstance would have locked the thread at that point. BV doesn't explain the thread closing like AW use to but they don't delete it either.
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barncards1
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posted on November 24, 2001 05:06:09 AM new
Hi Wally:
I sure was NOT trying to get you upset. I think just because I don't use something another person does don't meen it is not wourth looking into. I feel that there are hundreds of people that use it...I don't..if it needs worked on it should be done..
I am for teh betterment of BV
JB:}
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robnzak
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posted on November 24, 2001 08:20:42 AM new
It was becoming very combative at the end with several members aligning into split camps.
Bidsbids, it really wasn't all that combative, just another case of someone bringing a concern to the boards only to be jumped on by the rose colored glasses crowd.
I made one of my increasingly rare BV posts to that thread and was immediately lumped into a group by one of those folks with the blinders on, of course, I'll admit glad I was put into the intellegent, adult, discussion oriented group of people.
I think it's interesting to note that after the thread was locked, JB started another of his 'vote' threads, and the cheerleaders decided, the upgrading the bulkloader to what should have been standard usage was voted down as unimportant, and of little priority because most don't use or don't care one way or another...so, another feature will probably remain inadaquate. I did hear a rumor though, that BV is hard at work creating new avatars for members to use on the boards. Now THAT'S an improvement, eh?
Rob
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bidsbids
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posted on November 24, 2001 08:26:48 AM new
Are there any guys out there contemplating marriage? If so, please read the Suzi Teacups In Here Please..... thread in the BV Auctions section of the BV Message Center. You could end up with one of these wonderfully sweet women.
Why email someone with a request to be removed from a list of some kind when you can goad and harass them on a public forum? Whoever says BV does not need a moderator or have the message center closed better read this thread on BV.
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RB
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posted on November 24, 2001 08:58:58 AM new
It looks like the inmates are gradually finding another place to play 
Oh how I long for days of AW Moderators ...
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reality1
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posted on November 24, 2001 11:37:14 AM new
JB
Well it looks like the POSSE/CLIQUE is alive and active as ever. My post last night proved that. As soon as ANYBODY says ANYTHING that the clan doesn't like they get flamed to the hilt.
Yhe bottom line is NEW BV MEMBERS YOU BETTER AGREE WITH THE CLAN OR KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!!
WHAT A FRIENDLY SITE. In a pigs eye!
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holysmokes
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posted on November 24, 2001 08:31:30 PM new
Perhaps education in the english language and spelling is in order at BV? Or is CHARASTMAS a new holiday in the Bidville Cafe?
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bidsbids
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posted on November 25, 2001 01:00:41 AM new
The citizens of BV are very forgiving. In the Suzi Teacups In Here Please..... thread in the BV Auctions section of the BV Message Center, Dreamgirl for no valid reason demanded in that public forum that Suzie ( called her Precious in the thread once ) remove here name from a list because the GeoCities website had popups and her spam mail had been increasing and she was blaming that on Suzie also. Everyone knows that there is no way in hell Suzie could place popup advertizing on a GeoCities free homepage except Dreamgirl. No emails, just a constant barrage of demanding and insulting posts, all the while other more sensible BV members are pleading with her to either take the complaint to email level or they were explaining the error in her faulty thinking on the popups theory. Finally Suzie returns home from a church recreational outing to defend herself.
The clincher is a new Dreamgirl thread with a title of Bidville is a Community in which she rants about the need for unity in the website without a hint of a much-needed apology to Suzie and all of Bidville for that matter. Of course the simple minded community rallies behind the unifying post by Dreamgirl even though her earlier threads was one most embarrasing and demeaning threads in the history of Bidville.
Go figure ....
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RB
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posted on November 25, 2001 06:42:21 AM new
bidsbids ... if it's bothering you so much, why do you keep going there? Only an idiot would keep asking for punishment like this ...
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dreamgirl
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posted on November 25, 2001 10:30:31 AM new
Good Morning everyone. I come today to post a word regarding the insanity you will read repeatedly on this board when it comes to the subject of BV. It is hoped that if you are exploring a possible auction site, you will visit Bidville and join in the community discussions there. You will find energetic, community inspired people who seek to improve BV. The administrators do not have to consult the community, but no one can deny that many changes have come from the community discussion boards. As in any community, all things do not happen based on anyone's individual time schedule. They happen when the owners can feasibly institute them, if at all. On the boards at BV, you will see disagreement ocassionally between members. Usually, these disagreements will be resolved amicably in a short time and the participants go on to their next project. Occassionally, this is not the case. Nothing different than you will find in any community anywhere. The nice thing about BV is that the majority of the folks there have been there long enough to see the updating and progress made in that site. So we know if we are patient, things will come along eventually to continue to upgrade the site. Who could ask for anything more.
Here at AW you have a group of unhappy BVillers for whatever reason. Some left because they didn't get immediate response to their particular problem. Others left because the site Owner removed them. He doesn't just draw names out of the hat to remove. There "people" deliberately provoked him and in MANY cases chose to do it with the vilest of terms. Then you have others who come to this board from other sites who profess to really be interested in BV but just can't get whatever done to make it a good place for them. And then others join this merry group just because of the negative tone you will always find here. These people love chaos and you can be guaranteed to find it here.
Now, I will make this a little more personnel. On at least two occassions I've become very involved in community issues at BV. My viewpoints were not accepted well by the people who frequent the BV threads offered at this site. After having upset this group, I began receiving terrible smut and newletters from everywhere. This has happened on two occassions now. Undoubtly, it came from one or more persons who post repeatedly the venom you will read here. I know that because they kept referring to one porn site in particular and I was getting those post. Another way of knowing it came from this group of people is simple logic. Logic says bad things don't come from your friends. Do I know which one or ones that sent it. No, so they all are suspect. You are judged by the company you keep. Their focus is not really on BV but on "hate". They are now overtly acting out of their hate by placing my and some other's addies on these mailing lists. Wonder how far they will go to express their hate.
So if you are tempted to believe any of the venom you'll see repeatedly spewing from this group, please know you are being directed by hate and not logic.
Good Day
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jimtaxi
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posted on November 25, 2001 11:49:12 AM new
I suggest anyone thinking about buying or selling that they first spend sometime in the message center there. Read an assortment of threads. Read the threads by the members that are leaving due to lack of sales. Read the locked threads to see why they are locked. Click on the names of the posters that boast about Bidville and see how many items they have with bids and look at their feedbacks. Search the closed auctions section of your favorite category and see what sold and how many bids are made. Look at the featured auctions that cost a minimum of 50 cents to list and see how many are selling and how many are sportscards.
Good Day
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barncards1
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posted on November 25, 2001 12:56:50 PM new
jimtaxi:::::
you forgot to tell them that they can win stuff there for penneys on the dollar....
YES CHECK THIS ONE OUT ALSO:
Ichiro Suzuki 2001 SP Game Used Edition RC #63 SP
One of the most limited Rookies of the Year 226.05 38 THAT CARD BOOKS OVER 400.00
CHECK OUT WHAT THIS SELLER SELLS
garmac WITH A 200 + FEDBACK RATING. SO SOMEONE MUST BE SELLING HU!!!!
I also do the same thing trying to let everyone know about BidVille
JB:}}
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reality1
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posted on November 25, 2001 03:18:20 PM new
I'd like to know the real sell through on BV if sports cards where not included.
The last time I had a use for a sportscard was in the late 50's. Use clothes pin and clip them on the frame of my bike so they would rub on the spokes and make noise until they where ripped to pieces anyway.
[ edited by reality1 on Nov 25, 2001 03:20 PM ]
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oxford
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posted on November 25, 2001 11:59:50 PM new
Quote:
Good Morning everyone. I come today to post a word regarding the insanity you will read repeatedly on this board when it comes to the subject of BV. It is hoped that if you are exploring a possible auction site, you will visit Bidville and join in the community discussions there. You will find energetic, community inspired people who seek to improve BV
Dreamgirl - that is exactly what I did - I didn't read about Bidville from AW as I had never visited the "Other Auctions" section, just the eBay section. It was because I read those boards that I left the site. Sure as heck didn't like what I saw there. You CAN'T be seeing the boards there objectively, or you would want to HIDE them from the public in order to get new Bidvillian sellers. Honestly, they are the most embarrasing, dumbest, most cliquish bunch of junk I have ever read!!! I only came to AW after just to see if ANYONE saw it as I did; it seems I am not alone. I will NEVER return to Bidville as long as those message boards remain active. I don't want to be associated with a site with that "junk" (for lack of a better word) on it.
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oxford
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posted on November 26, 2001 12:07:04 AM new
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On at least two occassions I've become very involved in community issues at BV. My viewpoints were not accepted well by the people who frequent the BV threads offered at this site. After having upset this group, I began receiving terrible smut and newletters from everywhere. This has happened on two occassions now. Undoubtly, it came from one or more persons who post repeatedly the venom you will read here.
Dreamgirl, how in the world can you say that? What proof do you have? Do you realise there are probably THOUSANDS of people that lurk here, many of whom are not even members? Probably HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS! How can you say that it is logical it would be a poster here? THAT is an illogical statement. Any of the many thousands of lurkers who happen to not like what is going on at Bidville could have done that.
ALSO, don't you realize Bidville has probably thousands of lurkers who tune into their daily "Coronation Street" soap opera and ANY one of them might have done that to you? Do not assume that any of the posters here or there are responsible. You really seem to forget that the eyes of the world are on these boards, and that the posters make up only a VERY tiny percentage of the actual readership.
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