posted on October 3, 2002 08:10:27 AM new
An auction site/Power mall needs a proven track record to be worth the time and effort of setting up shop there. Even if all fees were waived for a year it still wouldn't be worth the time and effort for most sellers to try AP or similar ventures. The few that have tried AP thusfar are probably the same few that try every new site that comes down the chute.
posted on October 3, 2002 07:02:39 PM new
Sorry Jamie,
I cannot assume that kind of risk. Heck, bidville isn't even worth that and at least they have deadbeats.
Where are the powersellers that were supposed to be posting on AuctionPie?
Your site has 58 listings. The majority are by you, and not other sellers.
Also, you have over 1000+ "live" listings on Amazon.com. Why did you not bring those listings over to AuctionPie?
Finally, if you do bring over those 1000+ live listings from Amazon, what about your limit of 600 "live" listings for $24.95 per month at any given time? Would you lift the limit just for yourself? Do you pay your business $24.95 per month for listing on your site out of your personal funds or from funds from VideoVault?
I am sure the good folks here at AuctionWatch would like to know these things.
[ edited by yourdesigns on Oct 4, 2002 10:26 AM ]
posted on October 4, 2002 11:37:49 AM new
Geez, I wish someone else had asked those questions as we all know YD that you have been crapping on me on just about any board that will have you.
For those other than yourself I will happily answer them.
Auctionpie is about being an alternative. Not a replacement to other sites.
That's why we allow outside links including to those who wish to have links to their other Auction listings on other sites.
We are waiting for the completion of our bulkloader. As soon as this is done I will be loading up a bunch of stuff as well as a few other sellers who have expressed interests in doing so. Many large volume sellers do not wish to load one at a time.
I will not import any of my listings from another site and please get the numbers right. I have over a 1000 auctions on Amazon and 2000+ Zshop(marketplace) listings as I feel that for me, Amazon is the best place to sell currently.
"Finally, if you do bring over those 1000+ live listings from Amazon, what about your limit of 600 "live" listings for $24.95 per month at any given time? Would you lift the limit just for yourself? Do you pay your business $24.95 per month for listing on your site out of your personal funds or from funds from VideoVault? "
Sellers are allowed to have more than one account, especially for those that sell more than one type of product. As for whether they pay for them out of their pockets or whichever funds they choose is up to them. What a silly question?
As a matter of fact, for sellers that purchase 3+ accounts we will create a special category(and sub-categories) just for themselves. (subject to change)
Please note YD, that if you post in a hostile and rude manner your questions will not be answered no matter how sensible they are in the future. And you can't post flames continuously and then expect one civil post to change things.
If you are not capable of being consistently civil (if not polite) you will be treated as you deserve.
I have no problems with fair criticism or answering any questions.
I simply will not play with people that for whatever reasons they choose attack me and my company on several boards.
If Auctionpie isn't for you YD it does not make you a bad person. I'd like the same respect.
"Sellers are allowed to have more than one account, especially for those that sell more than one type of product. As for whether they pay for them out of their pockets or whichever funds they choose is up to them. What a silly question?"
Why is it a silly question? YOU are not a typical seller you are the OWNER of the site. If you pay for your listings out of AuctionPie money, then you are essentially competing with your own customers.
You also state that you list on other sites and AuctionPie is only an alternative. Why then do you not have those "links" in your auction listings on AuctionPie to Amazon? Why then do you only have less than .04% of your inventory listed on AuctionPie? Would it not help you to bring over your inventory to help support the very venue you created?
Also, why the need for multiple accounts? Why can't someone just pay $24.95 per month to have an additional 600 listings? Is that amount not upgradeable through a single account?
Why have the 600 "live" listing limit? If you are bringing in powersellers that the majority of them have thousands of listings, how do you propose they handle the over 600 live listings limit? Are you going to force them to have multiple accounts?
If your site is not for sellers of that level, then why state you have Powersellers or even mention them?
Finally:
"If you are not capable of being consistently civil (if not polite) you will be treated as you deserve."
As I deserve? I am sorry but did I not ask my questions in a civil manner? Who is here to judge what I deserve? What rules are you going by? I follow ALL the AuctionWatch guidelines and they are the only guidelines on this venue I have to comply with.
posted on October 4, 2002 03:33:27 PM new
Do you have a first name YD?
"As for whether they pay for them out of their pockets or whichever funds they choose is up to them. What a silly question?"
Well, do you ask Jeff Bezos if he pays for the cost of selling items on Amazon or if it comes out of company coffers?
Why is it a silly question? YOU are not a typical seller you are the OWNER of the site. If you pay for your listings out of AuctionPie money, then you are essentially competing with your own customers.
Auctionpie is a US Corporation. It follows all the legal fundamentals of corporate life. This would include any sales of items and if sold by any owner(s) or employees for personal benefit they would have to pay for their accounts.
You also state that you list on other sites and AuctionPie is only an alternative. Why then do you not have those "links" in your auction listings on AuctionPie to Amazon?
I suggest that you look again. I have my Amazon auctions, zshop items, and my ebay account linked.
Why then do you only have less than .04% of your inventory listed on AuctionPie? Would it not help you to bring over your inventory to help support the very venue you created?
As you have now been told by a few people and several times we are waiting for the bulk loader to be completed.
I have over 15K videos and dvd's in stock. I see no reason to take items away from one site to sell on AP. I would not ask that of any Auctionpie sellers. I am not out to hurt Ebay or any company( I do like to have fun on occasion though). Not even Sheila's SYI although she keeps calling me "the competition"?
Also, why the need for multiple accounts? Why can't someone just pay $24.95 per month to have an additional 600 listings? Is that amount not upgradeable through a single account?
YD you can sell whatever you wish in your account up to 600 live items at any one time. As the site evolves if your sell through is good you can end up with thousands of listings per month. It's a reward for good sellers.
Some people have more than one Ebay account. Some have an account for bidding. Some people sell different types of goods.
If a seller wants more than 600 live items at one point they can open multiple accounts and link them all together via Auctionpie or use them separately. Or they can discuss this with me. We are open to all sorts of promotional ideas.
Auctionpie is about the truest Venue that exists. I am of the opinion that if you take a FVF or any commissions you should not be considered a Venue legally.
Why have the 600 "live" listing limit? If you are bringing in powersellers that the majority of them have thousands of listings, how do you propose they handle the over 600 live listings limit? Are you going to force them to have multiple accounts?
This is what we have for today. Things do evolve. The Auctionpie model is based for people that list about 100 items per month. When listing you can list an item for as long as 999 days without having to relist. This is good for stock items. Also note that sellers can list an item as an Auction lot or Fixed price.
If your site is not for sellers of that level, then why state you have Powersellers or even mention them?
Well we already have a couple signed up and a few more will be listing next week (if the BL comes through!)
Finally:
"If you are not capable of being consistently civil (if not polite) you will be treated as you deserve."
As I deserve? I am sorry but did I not ask my questions in a civil manner? Who is here to judge what I deserve? What rules are you going by? I follow ALL the AuctionWatch guidelines and they are the only guidelines on this venue I have to comply with
YD you also post on other boards and definately have not been civil or polite to me. Your statements have been childish at times and very hurtful.
All I am inferering is that if you wish to be treated with respect and integrity then perhaps you can understand that we all appreciate this on all boards, not just the ones that will bounce your butt if you don't.
All I ask is to keep the posts civil and polite. I will happily return the same. Just because you don't like me or my site is no reason to not be civil your designs.
posted on October 4, 2002 04:06:53 PM new
999 days????
Why would you allow someone to park an item for almost 3 years? Don't you think auctionpie listing would become stale from sitting there for that amount of time with no intervention from the seller to either relist an item or pull an item once it has sold elsewhere?
Or do you think the listings are going to be turning over quickly?
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Wasn't there another site that allowed an astronomical amount, like 99, relists? Didn't the management cut it back to about 10 or so because of the stagnant listings?
posted on October 4, 2002 04:14:04 PM new
Hi Toollady,
You can edit the listings!
We don't suggest you list items for 999 days. It's for stock items, especially for fixed price items.
Again, no listing fees, no FVF's. If you have a hard to find or oddball item and you want to wait until you get your price it's nice to be able to park it somewhere.
I my point is, by allowing an auction/fixed priced listing length of 999 days, you are going to make the listings stale.
How is it going to work? For instance, I decide I'm going to pay for a month to list at the pie. I pay my fee, list my auctions and choose, let's say, 90 days.
Now, after my month is up, I decide I'm not going to renew because I've had no sales and very few page views. In other words, no traffic.
Will my listings be ended, or will they be able to run for the remaining 60 days?
posted on October 4, 2002 05:17:26 PM new
We send you a notice prior to your payment period ending. Not everyone pays for only one month. Right now for example if you sign up you get until the end of 2002 for only one payment so you would not be notified until December.
If we do not hear back from you we send you another notice.
If we still do not hear from you we cut the listings.
Dead listings are good for nobody.
If you wish to close your account we can delete the user.
Some people actually don't sell all the time.
You could subscribe for a period of time and simply stop and then start again with the same user account.
The idea is to keep it simple and try and be effective.
If we listen to sellers and bidders I think Auctionpie will truly be successful. You can't implement every individual idea but if enough people want a feature it will be there.
And of course we don't have many of the features that are on certain sites just to generate revenues.
