tooltimes
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posted on January 23, 2003 05:38:56 PM new
One of the recent posts about Froogle & BV on the BV message center was about having any Froogle buyers having to register with BV's semi-strict registration rules merely to buy the Froogle item. That post got me to thinking that maybe Froogle doesn't know about that aspect of having all of the BV BIN items on their search. I wrote them an email about the mandatory auction registration at sites like BV and got back a reply. It may be a canned reply but it is interesting ....
Thank you for taking the time to email us about this.
In the future, if you run across other sites that require registration,
please send us the urls, as we are working to correct these occurrences.
Thanks again for your interest in Froogle.
The Google Team
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blairwitch
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posted on January 23, 2003 06:35:12 PM new
Hmmm could this mean sites that require "registration" may be removed from the search engine? How would they "correct" this?
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yellowbud
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posted on January 23, 2003 07:20:25 PM new
lol This reeks of "I'm gonna go tell mama on you!"
I see it as voluntary registration. If the customer likes the item, and the price, they decide if they want to register and bid, or move on down the road.
Heck, you have to register just to shop at Walmart online.
Well, we shall see how this all comes out.
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tooltimes
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posted on January 23, 2003 07:21:13 PM new
I thought Froogle was from internet or web stores. If Yahoo Auction items are on the Froogle search then they will meet up with the same problem. I guess BV may have been right when they said very few auction sites would be allowed on Froogle. I can also see BV omitting any information about mandatory site registration when they contacted Froogle about getting their items on the Froogle search. 
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blairwitch
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posted on January 24, 2003 07:29:56 AM new
Tooltimes I think your on to something here. I think I will email froogle as well and see what they say.
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labelle
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posted on January 24, 2003 07:40:21 AM new
What about something like ioffer? It isn't a bid to buy--rather an outright buy of an item--or an offer for a lower price. I can see Froogle is going to have some problems..You still have to register. I am asking because I see ioffer has a new storefront look that they are promoting for sellers to use. They do have a shopping cart--I think.
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tooltimes
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posted on January 24, 2003 10:13:12 AM new
The biggest possible boost from Froogle should come from web stores that qualify. Since BV has no stores they may benefit least. The smart move to make possible at any auction site is to add a note to each auction that says something like "email me at [email protected] for buying instructions of this item. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTERED AT THIS SITE TO BUY THE ITEM!"
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bearmom
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posted on January 25, 2003 04:39:09 AM new
I just wish I had as much free time as BW and tooltimes seem to. Is it retirement, or welfare that enables you to spend your lives in front of a computer looking for ways to cause trouble?
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reality1
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posted on January 25, 2003 07:10:03 AM new
Uh yes “The bidville mentality syndrome” strikes agains. Anybody that points out the MANY faults in that site are automatically classified as a lower life form. What a friendly bunch those Bidvillian (sounds like some kind of lizard?) are.
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bearmom
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posted on January 25, 2003 02:23:15 PM new
This is not my normal way of conversing-with normal people. But I realized long ago that in order for you to comprehend my meaning, I would have to speak on a level to which you could relate.
In other words, nothing over one syllable.
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blairwitch
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posted on January 25, 2003 02:49:35 PM new
Tooltimes here is the email I received from froogle:
Thanks for taking the time to email us.
We only include products that have fixed prices, so in general we do not accept feeds from auction sites. However, if the prices on the site are fixed, we may accept a feed from that site.
Thank you again for your interest in Froogle.
The Google Team
So any auction site that has fixed priced items will be included. This would explain the yahoo auction items.
reality1 there will always be a few bad eggs in the basket.
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reality1
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posted on January 26, 2003 08:07:13 AM new
“reality1 there will always be a few bad eggs in the basket. “
That’s true, BW, but in this case it appears they are all coming from the same mutant chicken. LOL
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yellowbud
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posted on January 26, 2003 09:15:18 AM new
Sounds to me that Froogle has no intention of "dumping" Bidville. That must be a real bummer for a few of you.
Some sellers at Bidville have already had Froogle customers. Looks as though Froogle will help Bidville after all.
Bad eggs...lol! Now that's something you guys can relate to.
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tooltimes
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posted on January 26, 2003 01:35:53 PM new
Funky Chicken!
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tooltimes
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posted on January 26, 2003 07:48:02 PM new
There are many unanswered questions about the Beta only Froogle.
One BV seller reported this tidbit today ...
Posted 1/26/2003 4:13:12 PM
I just did a search and found 2 of my items in Froogle, but the auctions were expired.
Does anyone know why they would still be listed in there? Should I email BVCS about this?
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yellowbud
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posted on January 27, 2003 06:40:22 AM new
Below is an excerpt from Bidville's announcement:
"After all our items have been posted, we will be sending "updates" to Froogle. The updates will instruct Froogle to post all newly listed items in the search engine. It will also remove any items that have sold or expired. This updating procedure will be performed on a daily basis."
I understand this to mean that "after" Bidville has "finished" posting items at Froogle they will begin the updates, which will take care of that problem.
Really doesn't look like it will be a problem at all.
Meanwhile, according to some sellers posting at BV, the pageviews and bids are increasing. I've also seen more new sellers coming in. ( and they aren't selling sportscards. )
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tooltimes
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posted on January 27, 2003 07:53:12 AM new
Only time will tell how effective Froogle is at weeding out the closed search items. I wil track Cuffy's Take It Now items here to see how well the BV/Froogle datafeed works.
As to the increased pageviezs ( I Dimviewized that with a BV Prez Z ) , that can work two ways. It can be favorable as advertising tool but more likely it with spread the word that almost all items at Bidville are overpriced with many strings attached to the seller's TOSes such as "PayPal accept but not from credit card funding" or the mega book sellers " All items subject to prior sale " clause.
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yellowbud
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posted on January 27, 2003 08:21:11 AM new
I think, more likely, they'll notice the many sellers at Bidville that offer lower prices on items, and offer the buyers options on shipping methods, with NO, or very minimal charges for handling.
Many of those same or similar items can be seen at Ebay or Yahoo with inflated starting bids, AND inflated shipping/handling charges. (Not to mention the fact that many sellers at Ebay and Yahoo not only inflate prices/shipping/handling, but ALSO tack on a fee for using Paypal, or refuse to accept credit card payments via Paypal.)
We all realize that many sellers at ALL online auction sites are now refusing to accept cc payments via Paypal, or are trying to charge customers for the fees.
Wonder why you are the only one who thinks Bidville is the ONLY site that has this happening?
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yellowbud
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posted on January 27, 2003 12:03:52 PM new
Tooltimes, you're very good at calling names, defaming, and making (borderline) slanderous remarks about someone who can't post here. Why not hop on over to Bidville and discuss this with CuFF in a forum where she can respond? You seem to enjoy it so much, surely it would be worth paying for the privilege to do so.
Or you could even call her out at Mootropolis. She can post there. How about it, big guy?
Oh, maybe you just find it easier, in a cowardly sort of way, to harass her in a forum where she can't defend herself. ?
You're beginning to make yourself appear to be a really swell guy to your reading public.
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blairwitch
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posted on January 27, 2003 01:20:07 PM new
Tooltimes so far froogle hasnt helped bidville at all. If you are not looking for common cards, or over priced books that only leaves the other low demand/junque items. Bidville's purpose in life is to warehouse second hand merchandise that doesnt make the "grade" at ebay and thats fine.
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yellowbud
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posted on January 27, 2003 03:31:33 PM new
Okay, one more post before I let you play by yourself for awhile...
Here are parts of some other posts at BV...
"WOW !! Thank you to all the lookers
and especially the bidders!"
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"MORE BIDS !! THIS IS SOOOOOO COOL !!!!!"
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"11 Hot auctions
52 auctions sold
Over 1200 Visits
250 Bids"
Tit for tat. I think some artist once said, "You paint your picture, I'll paint mine."
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bearmom
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posted on January 27, 2003 04:13:08 PM new
Personally, I have seen an immediate increase in sales, as well as new bidders. Froogle is apparently working already, no matter how you may try to spin it otherwise.
As for Cuff, if you posted someplace where she could respond, you'd be shot down immediately, with facts rather than your biased suppositions. You only post your garbage here because you know she can't come in and challenge you with the truth. So you are not only a bully, but a coward-as if that surprises anyone!
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tooltimes
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posted on January 27, 2003 04:20:04 PM new
Now you know why women are forbidden to be on a battlefield, they'd have everyone in their unit killed in minutes with their big mouths.
Those sellers that are claiming numerous bids and cyber cartwheeling are selling sportscards at one cent to one dollar. Those sellers can only sell on a third tier site that has no listing fees. ( Any FVF would not effect a penny or nickel sell either ).
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blairwitch
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posted on January 27, 2003 05:01:12 PM new
Cuff is more than welcome to come here. The name "Guff" is available for her to use.
Tooltimes the STR on bidville is very low. Why dont they have another sale like the natives want? Heck if the STR jumps from 0.6% to 1.5% it would be worth it.
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BoneCollector
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posted on January 27, 2003 05:13:15 PM new
Hi everyone!
I'm new at this site and just wanted to say hello.
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bearmom
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posted on January 28, 2003 06:48:42 PM new
TT-I've never sold a trading card in my life. I do have about 5 boot boxes full of them, back to the 60's, out in the garage, but I'm not interested in selling them.
I did send off about $150 in EOA letters this evening for other things I sold today...on Bidville.
I have no idea how well sports cards sell, for what price, and how often. But this tired old joke about the penny cards is worn out. Bidville is a viable market for sellers and buyers of a wide variety of items. The fact that you couldn't make a go of selling, or being accepted, at Bidville is not a reflection of the site itself so much as a reflection of your unlikeable personality and lack of business acumen.
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robertsmithson
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posted on January 28, 2003 07:46:58 PM new
That site is the most pathetic online auction site in cyberspace!
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yellowbud
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posted on January 28, 2003 08:12:14 PM new
Oh, did we change the subject to Yahoo?
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robertsmithson
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posted on January 28, 2003 09:11:06 PM new
Nope, Bidville still.
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BoneCollector
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posted on January 29, 2003 12:29:16 AM new
I thought you were talking about Yahoo, too.
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