posted on April 10, 2003 02:26:51 PM new
These figures don't include take it auctions, do they? A large majority of items at bidville are take it priced. That would make these statistics inconclusive. Thanks for your efforts anyway.
posted on April 10, 2003 06:28:57 PM new
Hi, and thanks for your concern. The information here is the current "bidrate" from bidville's data base. Once the sale is over all items including "take it items" will be included for the sell thru rate. Keep checking back.
posted on April 10, 2003 08:33:38 PM new
Who compiles the "bidrate" from bidville's data base? Can you explain how that's done? If the numbers are inconclusive until the end and don't give an accurate picture of all sales, what's the point of posting the figures before all the numbers are in?
If you have any questions about the data displayed on bidville, you should contact bidville customer service. They can answer all the questions you have.
posted on April 11, 2003 04:53:47 PM new
I don't have a question about the data displayed, but the gathering of the data & who it is that gathers it.
I also question the validity, or purpose of statistics compiled (by whatever unexplained means) that don't include a portion of the actual sales. If take it transactions can't be counted until the sale is over, wouldn't it be better to wait until the sale ends? Do you want people to believe the sale is going poorly or something?
Your bidrate might have meant something if you'd waited. As it stands now it means nothing because it's incomplete data. I'll be waiting for the end results and leave you alone with your numbers. Chow
posted on April 15, 2003 07:17:16 PM new
I agree with bonecollector that the bidrate is only part of the whole picture at Bidville and the other non-ebay auction sites. The more important statistic is probably the STR or sell-through rate that includes all of the auctions that ended with a 'Take It Now' type of sale with only one bid. I look forward to seeing that statisic being reported here by the ever-vigilant Blair Witch.
posted on April 16, 2003 09:36:27 AM new
The irony of the whole successful bids thing is that the majority of the auctions that were sold were probably to other Bidville sellers. It would only take a few sellers buying many low priced auction goods from other sellers to greatly inflate those final sale figures.
posted on April 16, 2003 09:52:58 AM new
Somehow, I don't think there are many bv sellers who give the end statistics much thought, and even fewer who would be inclined to conspire to make the bidrate higher. What a ridiculous thing to suggest.
Outside parties sitting around stirring empty pots should be disregarded.
Blairwitch, your figures don't match bidville's figures. Considering your questionable method of collection, it doesn't surprise me. Have a good day.
posted on April 16, 2003 10:27:20 AM new
I never said anyhtning about 'conspire to inflate' the rate. What I was infering would be a natural result of old friends buying and selling to old friends at an auction site. If you do not believe that that happens frequently then you may need to peruse through a few of the feedback ratings of longtime posters on the Bidville message center.
posted on April 16, 2003 11:10:51 AM new
That would certainly apply to all small auction sites. When you tear yourself away from perusing bidville seller feedback take a look at all the other small sites while you're at it. You'll see the same phenomenon.
"It would only take a few sellers buying many low priced auction goods from other sellers to greatly inflate those final sale figures."
Your comment led me to believe that you imply something else. I think it may have been the part about sellers buying many low priced auction goods to greatly inflate final sales figures. The meaning is pretty clear, but if you say that's not what you meant I'll buy it
posted on April 16, 2003 12:09:42 PM new
auctionace it has been reported in the past about the bidville sellers buying mass quanity of nickel and dime items from each other. Another thing to consider is the relists that occured during the sale, and the deadbeats which reduce the STR more.
bonecollector my data comes from bidville and checking again there were 1001 sale items ending with bids. The data is there for everyone to see, not just me. If the data I report is incorrect, then the data bidville displays is incorrect. You can contact them with your questions
posted on April 16, 2003 12:10:32 PM new
I agree that Bidville is no different any any of the other of hundreds of auction sites in the buying patterns of the sellers. It's only natural for the sellers to support their site via making online auction purchases in their favorite site.
The whole pursuit of bidrates and even STR's is foolish in my eyes. Like you said in an earlier post "Somehow, I don't think there are many bv sellers who give the end statistics much thought".
And I agree with the possible ulterior motives of some posters that you indicated in your "If take it transactions can't be counted until the sale is over, wouldn't it be better to wait until the sale ends? Do you want people to believe the sale is going poorly or something?" remark.
posted on April 16, 2003 01:23:28 PM new
"auctionace it has been reported in the past about the bidville sellers buying mass quanity of nickel and dime items from each other."
Reported by whom? That's a pretty large accusation that should be supported by something more concrete than just your words in my opinion. Why would you seek to harm bidville and it's sellers with nonsense and lies? I have seen no such activity, and I sell at bidville. Your credibility is shot.
posted on April 16, 2003 01:30:14 PM newauctionace it has been reported in the past about the bidville sellers buying mass quanity of nickel and dime items from each other. Another thing to consider is the relists that occured during the sale, and the deadbeats which reduce the STR more.
Doesn't that practice occur at most online auction sites? It is a little easier at Bidville with the preponderence of under $1 Sports Cards and no FVF on Bidville but the other sites would have more of that type of thing if they had those types of auction goods on their sites. It's a moot point ....
posted on April 16, 2003 04:14:58 PM new
What would be gained by a few sellers trading a bunch of cheapo cards among themselves and acting like the trades were actual sells? The feedback? To claim a higher STR for the site? Sounds too X File-ish to me.
