buffalowoman
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posted on June 26, 2003 04:29:36 PM new
New auction site www.tamerauctions.com just started up.
Sure hope they manage to get it going-they are charging a flat fee of $6.00 per month with no FVF or listing fees.
I have used this company's auction program for a year now and love it. Since the Auction site is new I am hoping to come across some good bargins. Plan on doing a little listing also, just to support them.
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stopwhining
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posted on June 28, 2003 07:29:40 AM new
why do people even bother to create more auction sites??
there are so many items on ebay with no bids??
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tomwiii
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posted on June 28, 2003 08:14:51 AM new
No kidding!!
Do they use these worthless enterprises for tax write-offs??
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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buffalowoman
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posted on June 28, 2003 09:28:49 AM new
Gee, eBay sales must be slow since you guys seem to spend all your time looking for postings that you can put down and tear apart...Get a life!
J. C.
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tomwiii
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posted on June 28, 2003 09:33:48 AM new
THIS from an obsessive over a $4 Ginsu Knife Set sale that took 7 days to delivery????
Vendio IS my life!! NTM: me bestest buddie: Ralphie!
 
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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buffalowoman
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posted on June 28, 2003 09:36:52 AM new
THIS from an obsessive over a $4 Ginsu Knife Set sale that took 7 days to delivery????
You must be thinking of someone else..I don't own, nor have I ever bought a Ginsu knife.
J. C.
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tomwiii
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posted on June 28, 2003 09:45:47 AM new
Twas "literary license" 
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
[ edited by tomwiii on Jun 28, 2003 09:46 AM ]
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 28, 2003 12:00:16 PM new
Even a low $6 monthly fee is not worth it if you do not sell anything. Most sellers have no problem paying a selling fee or FVF on items that actually sell.
It's the old which came first the egg or the chicken. The sellers need buyers before they will set up shop and the sites need money to draw in bidders to their sites via ads and such. It's a no-win situation for both the sites and the sellers.
The only conceivable way the cycle could ever be broken would take a very wealthy person such as Bill Gate$ to spend a lot of money promoting their new sites and offering greatly reduced fees to get sellers to try it out.
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antj
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posted on June 28, 2003 01:03:44 PM new
I agree it is not worth $6.00 a month without bidders. But, on the other hand, you can use it the same as you use eBay's "Store"-
eBay charges $15.00 per month for a store, plus FVF. If you have say 100 items that you want to get rid of, you can list them there for $6.00 with a IP (instant purchase)with no FVF. I don't have an eBay store, so I am not sure if I am correct or not, but can you list 100 BIN products for a month and only pay $6.00 if they all sell?
I'm sure most of the sellers have a customer data base. It is not against ebay policy (at least I don't think it is) if you notify customers of something they maybe interested in as long as they have requested to be on your mailing list.
The only objection (as far as I know) from eBay is if you use their site for linking to another site.
I could be wrong. I am new to all of this.
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stonecold613
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posted on June 28, 2003 10:40:02 PM new
I agree it is not worth $6.00 a month without bidders.
See Bidville. Same idea and is failing miserably.
I would give it a shot if they didn't allow and sports cards or recipes and had no listing fees, but a FVF.
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sc0ut
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posted on June 28, 2003 10:45:32 PM new
Not even microsoft’s money and reach could unseat ebay as the king of auctions. If it could have by now it would have. Greatly reduced fees are not going to make it happen either. Amazon and yahoo both had the money and released their free auctions and both failed miserably. I don’t think another auction is ever going to beat ebay. Ask your self what would an “auction site” need to attract buyers from ebay. Answer: it would have to be a better way to buy than an auction. For a buyer buying on an auction site sucks. None of these other auction sites provide any additional benefits than just going to ebay. Ebay is also going to provide me with a much broader selection. I hate buying on ebay, I have bought on ioffer and think it’s a better way to buy. These guys are actually growing where new auctions pop up, wither and die. This new wave of auctions is worst than the past waves. This was the precise question I was asking the bidchaser guy, why are you creating another auction site. His answer was we’re going to have am affordable fee. Buyers don’t care what sellers spend on listing fees, it doesn’t even cross their minds. What’s going to get buyers there?? The only thing these new auction sites attract are the sellers that can’t hack it on ebay.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 28, 2003 11:15:45 PM new
Well put.
There were MSN auctions and they sucked and failed. In the early 1990's the Sierra Software company created an online game site that got very big. Gates created MSN - MicroSoft Network to compete with it but it sucked and failed. Gates may not have had his best workers on the project or tried to do it on the cheap but for whatever reason it wasn't worth a damn.
The thing a new auction site would need would be a lot of advertising and noterity. Getting the sellers isn't the problem it's getting the bidders. If a new site could build a critical mass of bidders it could rival but never surpass ebay. Clever advertising would help. Those ebay commerical are pathetic.
Yahoo Auctions before the fees was a GREAT place to sell. I sold about 60% on ebay and 40% on Yahoo. The stuff that took a while to sell was perfect for Yahoo. The bidders came to Yahoo because the lower priced stuff was there. It was a true heavenly place to sell. We all knew that it couldn't be totally free forever but to charge a large listing fee was a stupid, stupid mistake. I swear they could have easily charged a 10% FVF with no listing fees and had few complaints and made a bushel full of money.
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stonecold613
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posted on June 29, 2003 03:53:13 PM new
Except for the fact they wanted to get rid of the crap auctions, mainly the items you pedal. Kudos to Yahoo. It is as strong as ever and the deadbeats are gone.
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 05:43:06 PM new
They didn't want to get rid of the crap auctions. They wanted a revenue stream from the auctions segment of the Yahoo Empire and totally messed up with their method. The management at Yahoo Auctions was so bad the the head of the auctions got caught buying tons of stuff on ebay and eventually lost his job.
If Yahoo had left everything as it was but gathered a 10% FVF they would have made tons of money. They could have gone after the junk listings with some publicized suspensions.
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blairwitch
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:35:59 PM new
Yahoo did the right thing. They took a free non revenue site, and are now making a nice chunk of change. You guys forget many of the former yahoo sellers have moved on to the stores. Last count there was over 40,000! 
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 29, 2003 07:56:22 PM new
If they got the $50 a month from the 40,000 Yahoo Stores then why not shutter the auctions? If anything, that move may generate a few more Yahoo Stores. It maybe that they do not want the bad press from giving in to ebay.
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bonecollector
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posted on June 29, 2003 10:56:20 PM new
Isn't it $6 for 90 days?
New User Registration
Join TamerAuctions today and enjoy both buyer and seller services for only $6.00 USD every 90 days paid via your PayPal account. Listing items is FREE and there are NO Final Value Fees. The only extra fees we charge are for listing enhancements. We make no distinction between buyers and sellers.
New members receive $6.00 USD in listing enhancement credits.
It's a crying shame that there isn't a way to get rid of crap sellers stonecold 
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blairwitch
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posted on June 30, 2003 12:03:11 PM new
AuctionAce it does make me wonder why they keep making upgrades to the auction site with so few sellers using it. They must plan on keeping the auctions, but why they dont promote them is a mystery.
On the stores they get a $49.95 fee monthly plus a nickel for each item plus a FVF!
40,000 x 49.95= $1,998,000.00 x 12= $23,976,000.00 yearly. Surely they can use some money for the auctions?
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stopwhining
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posted on June 30, 2003 03:21:38 PM new
not true,the yahoo ex sellers move on to epier and bidville,they did not go to yahoo stores.
yahoo stores have been dropping ,it was 30,000 now it is much less.
yahoo shopping is more for new stuff and practical items like wallpaper,electronics and air conditioner and other yuppy gadgets.
one of the few yahoo shop which sell used and old items ,so called antiques and collectibles is GO ANTIQUE.
Yahoo shop is 49.95 a month plus 10 cents per item.when item is sold,there is a 1/2 % transaction fee and if it comes thru yahoo network,tag on another 3 1/2%.
you must have a merchant account to have a yahoo store.
yahoo traffic has dropped tremendously since google has come up with a new scheme.
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stopwhining
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posted on June 30, 2003 03:23:08 PM new
remember gold auction,??it was started by ebay sellers and it was free,where is it now??
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AuctionAce
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posted on June 30, 2003 05:41:34 PM new
I wonder if the Yahoo quarterly or yearly reports have some accounting of where their revenues come from and if they are online to view. I know the Yahoo personal dating service and the Yahoo games must draw in much of their profits.
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sc0ut
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posted on June 30, 2003 05:46:44 PM new
Yahoo finance does really well. Yahoo announced in the past that it was only going to put it's efforts into what is profitle. I haven't seen anything new in much of the parts of yahoo. email is also doing good.
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jwpc
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posted on July 8, 2003 01:08:06 PM new
I'm giving the new Tamer Auctions a try. I love their other auction products, and I like the way the site is set up, they have always been professional in the manner they run their auction posting program, and I expect they will be with their auction site too.
http://www.tamerauctions.com
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AuctionAce
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posted on July 8, 2003 01:23:02 PM new
I've had two nice sales this week at ioffer. It may be a tax refund check spurt or something but it's nice to sell stuff a site not named ebay. People love to combine buys and s/h and ebay has left a window of opprotunity open for sites like ioffer. And a free frickin' store.
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