AuctionAce
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posted on September 16, 2003 01:58:05 PM new
Looks like the numbers are being updated again. My store sales have increased 100% --- from one a month to two a month on average.  [ my father use to say that's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick )
Still slow but steady growth on the site ( no deadbeats yet for me anyway )
106,918 items on 4/23/03
112,746 items on 4/29/03
109,588 items on 5/09/03
132,794 items on 5/21/03
134,152 items on 6/5/03
134,585 items on 6/22/03
151,792 items on 7/8/03
166,102 items on 9/16/03
Antiques & Art (2317)(2283)(2743)(3192)(2824)(3420)(3728)(3728)(3167)
Autos & Transportation (1801)(1736)(1789)(1600)(1779)(1621)(1918)(1919)(1790)
Books (14928)(11335)(12450)(32182)(31479)(17742)(21346)(21346)(35356)
Business & Commercial (4331)(3972)(3848)(4003)(4191)(2168)(2128)(2128)(2077)
Clothing & Accessories (5881)(5635)(5437)(3393)(6345)(7625)(7973)(7973)(7879)
Coins & Money (1689)(2085)(2142)(2017)(1350)(1292)(1504)(1504)(2440)
Collectibles (18380)(17841)(17678)(18365)(17275)(21164)(21453)(21443)(17527)
Computers (4488)(3864)(4120)(3944)(4304)(4301)(4367)(4367)(4989)
Dolls & Bears (2653)(2729)(2439)(2491)(2767)(2610)(2678)(2580)
Electronics (2990)(2986)(2336)(2706)(3165)(4730)(4741)(3588)
Hobbies & Crafts (1674)(1751)(1807)(2422)(2616)(3315)(3991)(4205)
Home & Garden (11495)(11432)(11022)(12169)(12737)(14025)(14429)(10746)
Jewelry & Watches (9288)(9194)(9196)(9405)(8478)(7506)(7396)(13833)
Miscellaneous (7323)(6802)(6617)(6606)(6845)(7400)(8540)(10157)
Movies & Television (4260)(4180)(4300)(4183)(4816)(5751)(10164)(10527)
Music (6920)(6679)(6600)(5941)(6066)(5933)(6145)(6851)
Photo (336)(324)(323) (228)(387)(468)(501)(329)
Pottery, China & Glass (2631)(2625)(2538)(2717)(2697)(3906)(4237)(2351)
Real Estate (53)(48)(50)(58)(59)(58)(49)(66)
Sports (5884)(8079)(7309)(7111)(5766)(8385)(9506)(9857)
Stamps (980)(1005)(939)(1285)(1215)(3856)(6902)(6615)
Toys & Games (5699)(6021)(6458)(6577)(6869)(7105)(7895)(8995)
Travel & Events (154)(140)(190)(199)(122)(204)(201)(177)
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
[ edited by AuctionAce on Sep 16, 2003 01:58 PM ]
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Blairwitch
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posted on September 17, 2003 11:22:00 AM new
Thanks for the numbers Ace. My biggest problem with the site is the very high prices set for used goods. You can find most everything much cheaper on yahoo and ebay.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 17, 2003 02:29:50 PM new
Name a site that is the same exact way? I put stuff that didn't sell on ebay in my ioffer store and raise it 50 cents or so to cover the ioffer fees.
The problem at ioffer is the low ball buyers that offer only $5 on a $40 item. There is no blocked bidders list so they offer the same low prices over and over again.
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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stonecold613
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posted on September 17, 2003 04:10:16 PM new
And now you know why ioffer will never be a player in the real market.
This is about what any of the iofferites are willing to pay for quality items.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 17, 2003 08:12:18 PM new
The point of my post is that it is not fair to single out ioffer or Bidville or any paticular non-ebay site. Ebay has steep pricing competitive pressure and a large listing or insertion fee that both place a lot of pressure on the seller to actually sell the auction item or lose the darn listing fee. That pressure does not exist at 98% of the non-ebay sites so sellers can wait months or years even for a buyer to arrive.
That tactit can be a good thing if what you are selling has a very narrow audience. Lets say a high school yearbook for instance. You could spend $5 in listing fees over time on ebay and not even get close to finding a buyer but on a non-ebay site you can wait and wait for the right buyer to arrive. Why waste listing fees on ebay for an item that only a very small number of bidders what?
That's what the non-ebay sites are really good for and that's where they can take ebay on an win easily.
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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kiara
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posted on September 18, 2003 12:15:35 AM new
Lets say a high school yearbook for instance.
If you can't find a buyer on ebay the person wanting the yearbook would be dead before he found it on a niche site. Or you may die waiting for him to arrive.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 18, 2003 07:37:38 AM new
That's totally negative and false. None of the non-ebay sites have taken advantage of the fact that high school memories are a HUGE internet draw. Classmates.com has 35 million users ( all with active email addresses that are checked once-a-month ). To me, that's 35 million potential buyers that may be looking for junior high, middle school, high school, & college yearbooks and yearbook supplements as well as class rings and pins and other items. Ebay has decided to mostly ignore those 35 million potential buyers and the niche sites have also decided not to actively pursue the listing of these items.
That was just one example of an item that a niche or non-ebay site could exploit because ebay is saddled with a large and encumbering listing fee.
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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kiara
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posted on September 18, 2003 08:02:49 AM new
eBay has a category for school yearbooks so I don't understand what you mean about them deciding to ignore it.
There were 758 closed listings and there are 413 active.
I would think that anyone who wanted to find a yearbook would check ebay first.
People that get all hung up on memories of their past probably hung onto their yearbooks anyways?
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 18, 2003 08:13:04 AM new
There were 758 closed listings and there are 413 active.
I realize that you are a bitter old cigarette smoking lady but there ARE 35 million registered user at classmates.com that DO care about their high school days.
What are the chances of anyone finding their yearbook with only 413 listings? Why pay 30 cents or 55 cents to list a book that doesn't have much of a chance to be bought unless you list it at $3?
I just suggested to classmates that they start an ad section for yearbooks and such and charge a 10% selling fee on sold items. Ebay is so set in their selling model and inflexible that they are vulnerable to niche auctions. Playerauction.com makes a ton on the online games market because ebay is vulnerable.
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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kiara
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posted on September 18, 2003 08:25:44 AM new
I realize that you are a bitter old cigarette smoking lady
Sheesh, Ace where does that come from? First off, I don't smoke anything and I am not a bitter person nor am I an old lady. I think you have your shorts bunched a bit too tight already today!
As far as school yearbooks and Classmates.com maybe it's time you got over Muffy that dumped you for the football captain. Life goes on. 
My point is that if there was such a HUGE interest for this memorabilia there would be more people listing it on ebay.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 18, 2003 12:47:07 PM new
There is a HUGE demand but there are yearbooks for every year for every school. There must be tens of thousands of schools and every year most publish a yearbook. That makes it a very small amount of people seeking out each book and it is worthless to waste listing fees on ebay for so few bidders. But collectively, those small amounts of people seeking each yearbook adds up to a huge amount. That's just the yearbooks. There are class rings and pins and other school memoribillia too.
Classmates just wrote back that there are looking into the possibility of running classified ads for the school memoribilla on their site. If classmates does go ahead with the ads and it is popular then there is another lost opprotunity by ebay because of their rigid insertion fees policy. Heck, make it free to list school memoribilla and charge a 15% FVF like Half does!
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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kiara
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posted on September 18, 2003 05:39:37 PM new
There is a HUGE demand
How do you know this? Where do you get your facts from?
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 18, 2003 05:51:33 PM new
My final post to you ( as you are now going on the StoneCold613 permanent ignore list ) is that your are a very vindicative and bitter person. I hope you get some professional help soon. Adios.
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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kiara
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posted on September 18, 2003 06:08:58 PM new
How am I vindictive and bitter?? All I did was ask you a few questions. Did you read something more into it? Didn't I use enough smilies?
All I asked is how you know that there is such a HUGE demand for this memorabilia. Where are the facts? Enquiring minds want to know.
You can't answer so you put me on ignore? LOL !! 
Besides, I don't believe that anyone really puts another on "ignore", not the smart ones anyways.
Now unbunch your briefs.
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sc0ut
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posted on September 18, 2003 10:46:25 PM new
Hey AuctionDunce, why don't you go and start a Yearbook Auction. With all of you experience and great advice you should have no problem at all. www.yearbookbid.com is open. What is stopping you? Go ahead practice what you preach. I know I'm on you ignore list, BFD.
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kiara
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posted on September 18, 2003 11:47:51 PM new
PSSSSSSSSST, ACE !!!!!!!!!!!!
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kiara
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posted on September 18, 2003 11:58:33 PM new
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fenix03
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posted on September 19, 2003 12:51:11 PM new
Ace - if you feel this is such a lucrative market, then why not explore it for yourself?
Of course you might want to get a little less defensive about obvious questions if you do.
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justmypostingid
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posted on September 19, 2003 03:10:37 PM new
Ok I went and checked out I-Offer.
I had never took the time to browse the site because the concept just does not interest me.
I spent a good hour surfing around in my area of interest and this is what I found and think.
Not one seller had over 44 feedbacks in the last six months.
"Protect your privacy and abide by our Listing Policy. Do not include your email address or contact information"
BIG Turn off, even feebay allows buyers and sellers to communicate with out having to keep using the host site.
I see lots of items that will need a few more years of ageing before they are indeed worth the asking price.
I see (in the Nazi Ask Seller a Question part) lots of dumb questions.
Why would anyone want to put up with all that B.S. email?
Sorry this site is not for me but I do wish them the best of luck and enjoyed the flash movie.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 19, 2003 05:32:29 PM new
I agree that is haggle concept is stupid. Many buyers make an offer and never return, many buyers make super lowball offers. Ioffer should make the site into a mall that allows easy combined shipping discounts between shoppers and sellers.
The free store with cart concept gives ioffer only a short headstart on the other smaller sites as the free stores may soon become mainstream.
-------------- sig file ----------- President John F. Kennedy said, "There are three things which are real: God, human folly and laughter. The first two are beyond our comprehension, so we must do what we can with the third."
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kiara
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posted on September 19, 2003 08:32:52 PM new
Ace - if you feel this is such a lucrative market, then why not explore it for yourself?
He probably already has explored it. Maybe he bought up a ton of these yearbooks and can't sell them. Maybe that's why he is so angry with me when I asked him a question.
If I saw a HUGE market for something that had an appeal of reaching 35 million people just for that item I would head directly to ebay to sell it.
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sc0ut
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posted on September 19, 2003 09:12:20 PM new
hey AuctionDunce, the yearbooks were a great clue. Is this you??? http://www.ioffer.com/selling/calseller . Curious where you got these? Are you a custodian or a janitor? Kids leave alot of stuff in their lockers. I think my highschool library kept extra copies, a janitor or custodian would have access to these, and who would miss them. Great little racket you got. I am impressed! Free yearbooks with major demand, all somebody has to do is to create a site where you could sell these. You'll be on the forbes richest list in no time.
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sc0ut
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posted on September 19, 2003 09:32:04 PM new
http://stores.ebay.com/rickjnsstore&RefID=store It is you. I might be interested in the tommy chong picture and maybe one of those yearbooks, I mean the are just so irresistable... Actually forget the tommy chong picture let me get three yearbooks, I don't care what school or year. I just bought a new coffee table and really need that something to pull the whole room together. I'll pay a premium if they belonged to a popular kid and were signed.
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sc0ut
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posted on September 19, 2003 10:42:40 PM new
Come on AuctionDunce, don't push this thread down. I know you see it. Is it you or not?? I know it is.
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kiara
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posted on September 20, 2003 12:20:48 AM new
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stonecold613
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posted on September 20, 2003 10:49:31 PM new
Classmates.com has 35 million users ( all with active email addresses that are checked once-a-month ).
As usual, AuctionAce, Bidsbids and now AKA calseller, you are a wealth of mis-information. I have been a member of Classmates for well over 3 years now and I have never updated my e-mail address with them. In fact, I used an address that I don't even have any more. I just checked in to Classmates for the first time in nearly six months. Yep, still able to log in.
Also glad to hear that I am on your ignore list. That way everyone can see what in idiot you are without you oozing out of your hole.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 21, 2003 12:37:04 PM new
The yearbooks were just one example of many possible areas that ebay can not provide adaquet items for specialized collectors. Others examples would included items such as car parts for vintage cars. The insertion fees at ebay again are prohibitive for sellers selling to an avid but limited set of buyers. There are many, many areas on ebay that in the same listing quandry.
Ebay may respond that they have established low cost stores for these types of items but ebay does almost nothing to promote ebay store searches in general and almost hides the special ebay stores search functions.
-------------- sig file ----------- Most costume jewelry is unsigned. After all, the vast majority of it was made to be worn a few times, then discarded. It wasn't made to be durable. --- The Fluffster
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kiara
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posted on September 21, 2003 03:33:06 PM new
So why do you expect ebay to do anything about it? Obviously there isn't enough money in it for them to promote your yearbooks.
That's what websites are for. If you have such a hot item that you expect 35 million people to seek out, why not start a website? That's what many others do if they have a select market for items.
Oh ya, it may cost money to do it.
How many sign up to classmates.com under phoney names just so they can have a look around? Don't you think that classmates.com may fudge the numbers of their user base the same way ebay does?
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 21, 2003 04:38:36 PM new
I don't even wonder what that grundle is posting.
-------------- sig file ----------- Most costume jewelry is unsigned. After all, the vast majority of it was made to be worn a few times, then discarded. It wasn't made to be durable. --- The Fluffster
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kiara
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posted on September 21, 2003 05:32:41 PM new
Of course you don't have to wonder what any one of us is posting because you can read it all. You don't have the guts to continue a dialogue when you can't support your claims so you either beat a quick cowardly retreat or pretend to hide behind an ignore button.
You have a history of this with all of your previous IDs. You have already proven in the Outlook that you don't have me on ignore as you claim to.
So what's next? Be insulting here until you get your azz booted again? And then come back right away all innocent with a new ID? Your method of operation is getting very old and tiresome.
I admire the posters that say what they wish, whether good or bad and they have the guts to stick around and be themselves under one ID whether others agree with them or not.
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