AuctionAce
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posted on October 21, 2003 11:45:06 AM new
Seems like BV supported and promoted the past sales? Is it the new management that's the difference? The selling rates have dropped for each sale but it's not that embarrasing.  I know that BV sent out emails to all registered users but many new site visitors that are unregistered will know nothing about the upcoming sale.
This may be the first negative influence of the new BV management with the BV sellers.
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Blairwitch
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posted on October 21, 2003 06:18:08 PM new
Ace, I am dissapointed, but not surprised. With no off site advertising there is no reason to have a sale. Since the new management took over I see no positive changes at all. Dimview will be reporting the numbers, so time will tell if this sale is a dud.
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 21, 2003 07:28:01 PM new
I think both the old and the new BV management got sick and tired of being coerced into having the sales by the BV sellers. I can imagine there were quite a few 'I'm leaving if there isn't another sale soon' emails.
I'm fairly certain the 'investors' have given the new BV brass a short timetable to start producing revenue. I believe they will slowly ratchet up FVF's after eliminating the 'verification fee'. They may eliminate the ask the seller via his email ( ala ebay - declare security reasons ) to cut down on side deals once the FVFs start.
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bonecollector
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posted on October 21, 2003 10:55:13 PM new
The banner always goes up the day the sale starts at Bidville. Don't you people have anything better to do with your time?
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 22, 2003 07:59:22 AM new
I suppose we could collect bones? Is that a BV id? It is a bit of a boneyard.
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bonecollector
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posted on October 22, 2003 09:21:34 AM new
My nickname has nothing to do with Bidville, just as yours has nothing to do with your true auctioneering abilities 
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 22, 2003 10:05:24 AM new
Are you sure about the previous banners appearing only on the first day of the sale?
I seem to remember them being there much earlier than that. Of course the site always had a problem with sellers jumping the gun and listing as soon as the sale dates were announced but they have seemed to partially remedied that by only inserting the special sale code in the auction titles on the first day of the sale so that only those items would show up in the special sale search.
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Blairwitch
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posted on October 22, 2003 10:19:37 AM new
Morale is very low at bidville, so I will estimate this sale's STR to be 6%
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bonecollector
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posted on October 22, 2003 10:25:00 AM new
Every sale banner in the past has gone up the day the sale starts.
Morale is low at Bidville? I think not.
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Blairwitch
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posted on October 22, 2003 11:43:33 AM new
Every sale banner in the past has gone up the day the sale starts.
No wonder the sales are pathetic.
Morale is low at Bidville? I think not.
You see things through rose colored glasses dear.
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 22, 2003 11:45:50 AM new
Morale isn't low because they most of them look at the world through rose colored glasses. I think most of them realize that fees of somekind are coming. That's not much of a concern as few things sell and those that do are mostly low value goods. The stinker that could make most sellers there very mad is if BV were to set up an ioffer type of FVF with a 50 cent minimum or even a Sell Your Item 5 cent minimum ( or 5% , whicever is greater ). The Sell Your Item fee structure could be a blessing to BV sellers because if BV were to try to set up a hefty ioffer fee system they could go to SYI instead of staying at BV.
The new fee structure will be the biggest decision made at BV.
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Blairwitch
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posted on October 22, 2003 04:45:56 PM new
Ace, my opinion is if they raise the fees too much the sellers will place their items on other venues, but they will continue to pay the "membership fee" so they can use the message boards. I really think the majority are "hobby sellers" who really care about the message boards the most. It could be more reasonable for the new management to charge a flat monthly fee to access the boards. $9.95 a month seems ok for a start.
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bonecollector
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posted on October 22, 2003 04:56:54 PM new
You two are laughable! Vendio should do something about bashers.
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 22, 2003 05:50:21 PM new
Bones, I'm not bashing BV. ( Blair might be doing a little bashing though )I'm speculating on the future of BV after its management change. Bones, let me ask you if you feel that some new fee structure is coming to BV?
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bonecollector
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posted on October 23, 2003 12:20:27 AM new
AA said:
Of course the site always had a problem with sellers jumping the gun and listing as soon as the sale dates were announced but they have seemed to partially remedied that by only inserting the special sale code in the auction titles on the first day of the sale so that only those items would show up in the special sale search.
BidVille uses codes to direct the sale auctions to the sale banner, period. The banner is put in place on the first day of the sale. As always you can search the codes and find the early bird auctions. Sellers were never prohibited & no remedy was ever pursued to stop early bird auctions.
Also, Bidville doesn't add the code to sale auctions on the first day of the sale. They remove the code at the end of the sale so the sellers don't have to edit out the codes one auction at a time. If you want to cast a bad light on Bidville sellers you should get your facts straight first.
AA said:
Blair might be doing a little bashing though
You are either ill-informed or deliberately misrepresenting the facts. You bash between the lines and you're no better.
The following should answer your questions so that you may be better informed about banners and sale protocal at Bidville.
Seller to Seller Forums (Verified Members Only)
Moderator Posted 10/14/2003 9:14:21 AM
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You all can start listing whenever you have the time to. The links on the front page and the advertising for the Bidville Holiday Sale will not begin until the 26th. (just to let you know).
But hey... I say start listing now, the more the merrier
~~~Jackie
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 23, 2003 08:41:20 AM new
Bones, The BV sale is no biggie as it is mostly sellers selling to other sellers ( like most non ebay sites ) Nobody cares if sellers list early.
You didn't answer the only question asked of you though ... Bones, let me ask you if you feel that some new fee structure is coming to BV?
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Blairwitch
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posted on October 23, 2003 06:07:46 PM new
sellers selling to other sellers
This is quite true, which is why I am surprised the "new" management isnt planning some advertising for non bidville users.
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 23, 2003 08:22:40 PM new
Maybe I ran off bonegatherer with my repeated question on BV fees? Some cheerleader! More of a fencesitter I'd say.
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bonecollector
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posted on October 24, 2003 08:51:01 AM new
Your question is off topic. You have been given the information you desired for this thread, and your response is to bash Bidville sellers from another angle. How typical
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Blairwitch
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posted on October 24, 2003 10:32:29 AM new
Ace, they are in denial that fees are coming. With morale low, and sellers leaving almost daily now I can hear taps being played in the distance......
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bonecollector
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posted on October 24, 2003 03:12:07 PM new
Someone is in denial, but it isn't the sellers of Bidville
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 24, 2003 03:54:38 PM new
Nah, couldn't be them. After after that $5 they pay every 6 months for credit card or Paypal verification will pay for a lot of salaries and payoff the purchase price of BV in no time.
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Blairwitch
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posted on October 24, 2003 06:40:26 PM new
Ace, how do we know anyone is being paid a salary? I would bet orlando hooked up with the few remaining carnaby folk, and they made up a plan. Things are too quiet over there if there were salaries to pay. They have something up their sleeves.
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 24, 2003 08:08:29 PM new
If the moderator gets paid and they go out of their way to broadcast it then they are paying someone else a salary too. Do you suppose they may be duping naive international investors with a 'cashing in on the ebay phenomena' speil? They're pretty slick!
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Blairwitch
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posted on October 25, 2003 12:50:16 PM new
The moderator is a phoney. It did not take long until we found out who it was as reported on mootalk.
Do you suppose they may be duping naive international investors with a 'cashing in on the ebay phenomena' speil?
Bingo!
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 25, 2003 01:18:05 PM new
I'm hearing the term 'Bingo' a lot lately.
I'm predicting the BV mod is going to crack down on Computers and tool lady and a few others. It looks bad to have questioners and malcontents posting on the site. Carnaby was stricter.
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