boldersgirl
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posted on February 8, 2001 12:17:38 PM
Tell me exactly what you have against Bidbay or the CEO ? What was the circumstances behind your problems that you have had at Bidbay ?
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 12:43:04 PM
Well I'll tell you what some of my problems are with BidBay.
#1 The contests rules are vague at best with no official rules posted are teetering the lines of legality.
#2 The listing numbers there are hyped they claim over 1 million items listed one member alone represents about 500,000 of that.
#3 The CEO puts bounties out for information on people who disagree with him or post negative comments about him or his website. For example: He posted a bounty for leading to information as to who was behind the user id SEABHS here at Auction Watch. He also posted a reward for information on who the writer of auctionwatch was who had given his website a bad review.
#4 BidBay.Com is associated with individuals who have a checkered past and present to say the least as evidenced by their own admission in their SB2 filing.
#5 The implementation of the contests and opening up the bidbay buck store in effect caused "business economics interference" against the sellers of BidBay (including myself)...LOL I said "business economics interference."
#6 He has suspended my chat privileges on his website for posting a link to his very own SB2 filing calling it disruptive.
#7 And oh of course...he's also threatened me with litigation for saying these things...because I am causing "business economics interference." LMAO
And that is only the half of it.
AG2
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 12:43:50 PM
Oh I forgot to give them credit for being the number one recipe auction site on the internet.
AG2
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boldersgirl
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posted on February 8, 2001 12:49:25 PM
And what would be the other half of the reasons ??
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gem10a1
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posted on February 8, 2001 12:51:45 PM
naa naa now, it is plain as day that someone is site-shilling today 
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RB
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posted on February 8, 2001 12:56:13 PM
Thanks AG2  I take back what I said in that other thread ... just had to pry a little more for an explanation
Just out of curiosity, on the bounty thing, what do you think this CEO expected to do with the information? Was he planning to put a rocket in this guy's pocket, or what? (expression courtesy of Mr. John Gotti)
If what you say is true, I suspect his problems with BidBay will be insignificant compared to his problems if anything bad ever happens to SEABHS ...
[ edited by RB on Feb 8, 2001 01:02 PM ]
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 12:57:46 PM
You're welcome RB...I don't have a problem with speaking up in regards to my issues with BidBay but you must understand I am constantly being baited right now and I am avoiding all pitfalls and traps that I can.
AG2
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mrfanini
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posted on February 8, 2001 12:58:03 PM
WOW WOW WOW AG2-
I really don't know were you been for the last 20+ years welcome to Corporate America.
I wonder if I should hold the same for other company like Microsoft
they lie to me about Windows me
oh how about our pass President
the one that said "i did not have any S_____ with that women,
or how about GM with their bumper to bumper guarantee on their car
and so many other company.
well it's time for me to go hide for other era
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 01:01:02 PM
so mrfanini just because everyone else did it it means it is okay?
This is what you expect from your "corporate America?"
AG2
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 01:06:06 PM
RB if you checked into that other thread I pointed you at earlier I think you will realize there is a great possibility someone is seeking others information as well.
Thanks for the comments too
AG2
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mrfanini
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posted on February 8, 2001 01:08:52 PM
AG2-HONESTLY- do you believe or know of any powerful company that have raise to the top
without pulling a few string here and there. Or doing thing that may be border line in the eye of other.
my friend we are not perfect
we make mistake too
but the important part of life is to live
and let other live
mrfanini
[ edited by mrfanini on Feb 8, 2001 01:12 PM ]
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 01:10:16 PM
Yes and I think that is something important we should all apply to live and "let others live." wink wink nudge nudge.
AG2
[ edited by auctiongallery2 on Feb 8, 2001 01:10 PM ]
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momary52
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posted on February 8, 2001 01:48:10 PM
So,AG2,the reasons you've listed....BAMMM-BAMMM-BAMMMMM.....what is that noise???BAMMMM-BAMMMMM....Hmmmm....why should you be harping on issues that don't concern you?Shouldn't that be left up to active BidBayer's?BAMMMM-BAMMMMM....oh,I know what that noise is!!!BAMM-BAMM-BAMM...It's this particular subject getting beaten to death by someone!!!
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 01:50:30 PM
Who says I'm inactive momary?
I am currently still active although I cannot participate in chat.
Do I sell there? No. Do I buy there? I have because I'm still attempting to get rid of my bogus bucks.
And these are issues that I have been stating for months now.
And I will continue to beat these issues to death...and everytime a little louder...and everytime to a new gov agency.
AG2
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 01:52:40 PM
I would just like to say no one can honestly defend these issues. They just attack me and my vocalizing them. This is I do not understand.
I think it's "message board economics interference." LOL
AG2
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 01:54:45 PM
Also let me throw in this little bombshell.
In the past more than once BidBay employees/agents have participated and won in the contests.
Now is that legal? Ethical?
And I have proof
Now how do you defend that?
Edited to add" and I have proof"
AG2
[ edited by auctiongallery2 on Feb 8, 2001 01:56 PM ]
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deichen
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posted on February 8, 2001 01:54:47 PM
In three words.....THEY ARE FLAKY
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momary52
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posted on February 8, 2001 02:03:35 PM
Yes,you HAVE been stating these things for months,OVER and OVER.And over and over and over again!!What is the point?The attention you're getting?
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auctiongaurd
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posted on February 8, 2001 02:05:52 PM
mrfanini, violating the quiet period is not "pulling strings", it is a crime. I don't understand what your comparison of Microsoft lying about Windows has to do with violating a quiet period.
If you are to speak intelligently about Securites law the I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the basics. I'm sure that you can find a lot of information on the web regarding this subject, so put your seasoned PI skills to work and start investigating.
By the way, is it still politically correct to call a privat investigator a Dick? Just curious.
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boldersgirl
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posted on February 8, 2001 02:09:49 PM
No employee's are entering contests or winning contests. It is forbidden.
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jtw74
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posted on February 8, 2001 02:28:54 PM
Momary: Holy Crap Batman?? Will it/he/she ever just go away??"
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boldersgirl
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posted on February 8, 2001 02:59:10 PM
Never. Why do you ask ?
Nervous or what ?
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auctiongaurd
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posted on February 8, 2001 03:10:12 PM
Curiously boldersgirl, all of the posts that you have ever made on AW have been in the bb site's defense. Do you work for them? Related to anybody that does? Friends with any employees? Just curious.
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boldersgirl
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posted on February 8, 2001 03:22:48 PM
I just feel that all the bashing that is done against Bidbay could be re-directed in a more positive way. Bashing and critisizing may feel good for a while but you could take that energy and put it into positive things like listings and bringing in more clients. Everyone has a point of view, not all are agreed on by others but that does not make your view point wrong. Bidbay has been a great site for me in every way. I know that there are problems but they exist in everything you do in life. If I don't agree with you do I run to Bidbay and post over there yhat you are doing this , that and the other thing. NO because it is not productive.
JMHO
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 03:39:29 PM
boldersgirl.
employees / agents of BidBay have participated and won contests on BidBay.
One won a printer...the other I will have to verify and post at a later time.
I am not saying it is currently going on now...but it did recently I might add..as well as in the deep past.
edited for spelling
AG2
[ edited by auctiongallery2 on Feb 8, 2001 03:40 PM ]
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mark
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posted on February 8, 2001 03:44:48 PM
boldersgirl, everyone's entitled to their own opinion and you're certainly welcome to post yours as long as it doesn't violate AW's TOS.
auctionguard had an interesting question there, though. Are you in any way affiliated with bidbay?
regards,
Mark
[ edited by mark on Feb 8, 2001 03:45 PM ]
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 03:48:36 PM
Since the thread is what is your gripe with BidBay and Momaary asks why I continue with these posts is that is one of my biggest gripes with BidBay.
I have posted these complaints and they are valid complaints and valid questions regarding the ethics of running this company and the problems have not been corrected.
That is why I will continue to bang this drum.
AG2
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boldersgirl
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posted on February 8, 2001 03:57:15 PM
I am a buyer and a seller just like I am on any other auction. WHY ?
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OneDay
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posted on February 8, 2001 04:01:42 PM
Now Look who is avoiding the question?
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DrJon71
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posted on February 8, 2001 04:04:25 PM
Pardon boldergirl but I think I missed what you said your username is over there. If you love it so much I am certain you would be more than happy to tell us. Hmm?? We are waiting.
and Mr. Fanini:
my friend we are not perfect
we make mistake too
but the important part of life is to live
and let other live ."
This does not ryhme
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