posted on April 22, 2001 01:16:52 PM new
Put them right up there with the big boys...called them a "big online auction site" ~ actually, they said "Big online auction sites like Amazon, AuctionAddict, BidBay, ebay and yahoo operate what are arguably the world's most democratic commercial venues"....
Don't attack me...attack Consumer Reports...not gossip, just reporting the facts for those who may be interested.
aramatha
I LOVE this blue bouncey guy...wish AW or somebody would market toys like him and have another Furby, Pokemon, etc craze
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posted on April 22, 2001 01:19:52 PM new
Thanks for the heads up! I will notify a friend of mine there at Consumer Reports IMMEDIATELY with a few pieces of evidence to dispute that!!!! Yippe yahooty!!!!
I love the also....he is so much fun. I like the red ball also
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MEOW pft pft
posted on April 22, 2001 01:27:51 PM new
"The First Amendment clearly applies to the Internet"
. "The law says that a person has a right to speak anonymously."
The company, based in Irvine, California, hoped to compete with Internet auction giant eBay. It claims the chatters conspired to spread rumors to drive down the company's stock price so they could profit by selling it short.
this was just as important to bidbay ......but they dont want to hear this.
and justice for all........lol
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posted on April 22, 2001 03:28:57 PM new
With only around 1200 active users the last 2 months, and dropping since the begining of this new year, the sites, dead, not going anywhere, not going to become anything, ever, all because of the Management.
Really a shame too, wonder no more, follow the money, hope the Magazine did.
posted on April 22, 2001 04:24:57 PM new
Well why not just state what the article really states:
"Although the policies are unclear, this site is fairly easy to use and offers many helpful
features, including an image-hosting program and a bulk loader for listing multiple
auctions at one time.
It's rated as average, which is what they rate things they don't really know about. I wouldn't buy an average rated item based on their reports.
Policies = below average
Usability = average
Content = above average (they have listings )
This site does not meet BizRate.com's criteria for rating an e-business, and has not been rated by its customers. Please check back in the future for any updates.
There is no security policy, but it seems that credit card transactions do not take place on the site. The privacy policy is not clear. It explains that personal information is collected and used by BidBay.com, but it does not say whether or not it is shared with third parties. The policy does say that BidBay.com is not responsible for the privacy practices of its partners or sites that have advertisements on its site.
BidBay.com does not charge any listing fees or commissions for its basic services. Buyers are responsible for shipping and insurance costs. The seller determines the shipping method and shipping costs depend on the item and the shipping location. All other policies generally meet our basic standards.
Design is a bit cluttered.
Browsing the site is fairly easy with via breadcrumbs and page number links. However, you must back up via your browser’s "back" button or click on "home" to get back to your starting point. Auction categories are listed alphabetically and broken down into specific subcategories. The number of items in each subcategory is shown. For items listed in a subcategory, title, link to a picture, price, number of bids and auction end date are provided. This helps you to know if you want to look further. Items can be sorted by end date, start date, or title in ascending or descending order. The search features work well. The title and description search feature allows keyword searches in the
title, description or both. Searches can be narrowed by whether or not the auction is still active and results can be ordered by relevance, ending date, or item title. The other search features allow searches
by item number and seller, and can be ordered by item title, end and start dates in ascending or descending order.
Registration is a three-step process that requires you fill out a form and wait for an e-mail confirmation in order to proceed to the final registration step. It is easy to place bids and list items. Easy-to-use
HTML templates are also available to make auction listings look more professional. Bids may be cancelled or changed in the personal bidding history area, but it is not suggested and in some cases bid retraction may not be valid. The site recommends using escrow services at the end of auction, that
provide security by keeping custody of funds and releasing them to the seller only when specified conditions are met."
Sorry, but online Consumer Reports did not address them as a big online auction site! There was nothing said like that online. Perhaps the story writer got a little carried away and the name had a catchy tune to it, but sheesh, folks, to compare BidBay with Amazon? Kind of makes one wonder about the mentalities of the folks writing such articles.
The site rates low compared to others on there and if I were to read those ratings I'd never visit the site at all.
posted on April 23, 2001 12:58:59 PM new
Well now dadnmom (mom) I don't know about illegal contests in their state, but in many states they are illegal, even the lottery!
As far as the illegal charity - I tried to deduct my contributions on my taxes, but was told I had to have a statement from them saying how much I gave. I never even asked because I knew I wouldn't get a proper answer. So it's really money down the drain for me. Thrown away to who knows where. Someone has a maid and a chef, so perhaps that person is making good use of the charity begins at home saying. We never know do we?
It really surprised me that you did not know you need receipts for your charity deductions. Although, there is a certain amount you may go over without receipts, but I do not know the percentage. Perhaps, it would be wise to consult and accountant or tax advisor, even if only for one time.
Don't worry about anything. When people are trying to cheat you, they are very slick about it. Most illegal charities are run by very very smooth people....who sometimes even pretend they don't speak or write the language very well.......it is a ploy to get people to 'help line their pockets', and in turn they give a little taste to others.
All legitimate charities MUST be registered as 'Not for Profit' or 'Non Profit' with the IRS......It is a legal requirement in all states (even in the maid and chef states).......Many people use this as an excuse to gain money for their own little pockets. They use the 'do-gooder' front, and it works. It does do them a lot of good.
These do-good false charities are illegal, and especially with 'helpers' in all different states, it will be a great front page story when it hits the papers...The IRS will jump all over this.....So many people will go to jail. In the maid and chef states they particulary love rich fakes, and enjoy showing them the ropes on the inside.
CBBB Standards for Charitable Solicitations
A Publication of the Philanthropic Advisory Service of the Council of Better Business Bureaus.
http://www.bbb.org/about/charstandard.asp
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posted on April 23, 2001 04:19:49 PM new
Why does Bidbay allow this to continue? Dumb question I guess! Also the contests. Law says you have to make it where people can enter via mail. That's why an ad will say "To enter write your name on a 3x5 card or send a post card to" but they just keep on. What can be done?
>^,,^^,,^<
MEOW pft pft
How nice of you to come here and inform me of the tax law. What surprises me is that you no longer give me credit for having a brain.
I guess you've been brainwashed over there really well, as other people have. Beware those that claim to be your friends, Catie, for they'll stab you in the back just as quickly as read your posts. Aren't you known as the interrogator now? It seems I read that somewhere.
Wouldn't it be more prudent if you informed your favorite charity of their part in the law? What they're doing is illegal. They provide no documentation for donations. The refused to provide certain data for tax purposes to someone else. You do not need receipts for under $300 I believe, however, they are nice to have. Kids for Cancer sent me a beautiful thank you letter, which I may or may not need, but it's good to have on file.
Do you want to know my foremost memory of BidBay and what it will be forever?
It's the begging site. Everyone begs for money, for feedback, for bids, for "gimmies".
Then they cry when they're caught.
Why does BidBay allow this to continue? Why did the world allow Hitler to continue so long. Cult mentalities say it all.
posted on April 23, 2001 09:56:03 PM new
Hello MtnMama!!!
Hey, I heard that You were suspended from the other site??? I am Truly Sad to hear this!!! I have personally always enjoyed your post because you pull no punches!!! lol
Continue to Tell it like it is!!!!
Now, what are we going to do about Fredonia???? LOL What will she do when she eliminates all her bogus 5 Trillion Feedbacks??? Oh Well!
Wishing You a Very Speedy Recovery K?!!!
and to Stay on Topic....Ahem!
Is that Coverage on BidBay in The Consumer Report's Online Site or in their May Issue in Newstands?????
I wanna do the blue bounce!!!!
Also, Hello To AllyKat!!!! Are you Still Suspended from the other site???
posted on April 24, 2001 07:50:10 AM new
Knottedlady
To set the record straight once and for all I have not registered on that site as anyone else but myself. I do not wish to post on that site and for you to make the unjust assumption (as you seem to do lately) that I am someone else is making you very small in my eyes. I also did not need a job with them as I have a job thank you and I would not move across the country to work for a dying dot.com anyway. I have roots, I don't just pick up and move because I don't like my situation.
posted on April 24, 2001 07:51:04 AM new
Isn't it amazing how vindictive people get when they are kicked off a site. How the jealousy flows into bitter words.
For the record this illegal charity that you don't have the guts to name is VERY LEGAL! We are incorporated in our home state, file taxes just like any other organization and we can account for every penny of our monies that have been donated. That doesn't mean we have to hand over our records to every nutcase online that asks for them.
And you do NOT have to be registered as not-for-profit so get your facts straight. We make no profit.
posted on April 24, 2001 08:15:44 AM new
rangerlover said "isn't it amazing how vindictive people get when they are kicked off a site. How the jealousy flows into
bitter words.
For the record this illegal charity that you don't have the guts to name is VERY LEGAL! We are
incorporated in our home state, file taxes just like any other organization and we can account for every
penny of our monies that have been donated. That doesn't mean we have to hand over our records to
every nutcase online that asks for them."
Two comments.
1. I don't think it is vindictive but rather the real freedom to speak one's mind at last without fear.
2. We know the name of the charity and it is not that we are afraid to post it here but that to my knowledge, we are not allowed. I believe that is a very fine charity but am concerned when "Joe Blow" or "Jane Blow" says "I am auctioning off a widget and half the money will go to *************. Who audits that to see if indeed half the money went? How much money was taken in? There is too much room for cheats in this type of charity auction. The original charity is great and is legal and helps many, but the "outreach" so to speak, charities are not good and leave too much room for cheats. I also believe that the records of any non profit organization are supposed to be public record. Ask Rev. Jackson!
posted on April 24, 2001 08:24:51 AM new
Thank you Batman, I couldn't have said it better. Isn't it amazing that the same people that come here to bash the AW posters for voicing an opinion are the same people that speak out of their forked tongues on the other sites, saying such sickingly sweet things it makes you gag, then turn around and bash you behind your back.
Rangerlover, if you are indeed a charity (and I think it's against CG here to mention the name of it) send me itemized receipts for all the items you, Valerie and the charity owner have received from me with value listed, as well as the profits you made from the items you purchased from me per item. That will satisfy the IRS should they ask who the heck your charity is. I am not a nutcase, I participated freely and am entitled to the paperwork stating which charity this is and any other pertinent paperwork. The owner of this charity has my address and so does BidBay. Anyone may release it to you for the purpose of submitting this paperwork to me. I'm sure you know which paperwork I require, being a legit charity and all.
In the meantime go have a glass of cultish koolaide with your leader.
posted on April 24, 2001 09:08:35 AM new
My my. First of all Lynn we NEVER bought anything from you for the charity. That is a fact. If my "leader" bought from you personally she doesn't need to send a receipt.
For the record I don't drink koolaid and that is an insensitive remark to all those who lost their lives in that tragic incident. I posted here to let everyone know that this is a post full of lies.
I stand by that and will not rebut anymore of the hateful remarks for a wonderful organization.
posted on April 24, 2001 09:42:28 AM new
It also amazes me that people TROLL over here after someone gets the boot from their god, and start to bad mouth that person......where are all your manners? Maybe I should say where are all your values,
and personal ethics?
Just for your information, a charity is supposed to HAND OVER the prior years income tax forms to ANYONE that asks for them...to verify your charity etc. Yes, any nut case can ask, that is the way of charities
You should check with your so called charity attorney. You have to have a Not for Profit, or Non Profit status....which this charity does not have. 501(c)(3)
It is the law...........Where is the Mission Statement, Endowment/Capital Campaigns Program, Annual Giving Program, ETHICS Program, Name address and telephone number of ALL people on the Board of Directors????
There is so much more to a charity than a lot of so called do-gooders 'saying they are registered'. At least be honest and hand forth the requested information. Online Regulations apply to this charity also...Check it out!
The Council of Better Business Bureaus promulgates these standards to promote ethical practices by philanthropic organizations. The Council of Better Business Bureaus believes that adherence to these standards by soliciting organizations will inspire public confidence, further the growth of public participation in philanthropy, and advance the objectives of responsible private initiative and self-regulation.
Both the public and soliciting organizations will benefit from voluntary disclosure of an organization's activities, finances, fund raising practices, and governance - information that donors and prospective donors will reasonably wish to consider.
These standards apply to publicly soliciting organizations that are tax exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, and to other organizations conducting charitable solicitations.
It is not just a Better Business Bureau law...It is an IRS law.....Check it out. I happen to know exactly what I am talking about. If you wish to check further call the (Association of Fundraising Professionals). They are the Organization with every law on the book available...and every organization listed.
Guess what? Yours is not listed. It is not recognized. It is not there.
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posted on April 24, 2001 09:55:56 AM new
Moderator, would you please lock this thread? I posted positive news for the auction community. The thread has degenerated into a forum for spewing forth venom, insults and innuendos that should be taken elsewhere.
posted on April 24, 2001 09:56:48 AM new
Having read Rangerlovers post again "First of all Lynn we NEVER bought anything from you for the charity." I think mtnmama was referring to items she had purchased or donations she made to this charity.
edited to say: when it gets tough just lock it up, huh?
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[ edited by aramatha on Apr 22, 2001 01:22 PM ]
I have personally always enjoyed your post because you pull no punches!!! lol