mharrisred
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posted on May 17, 2001 07:29:40 PM
There is another new player in the auction biz...www.sellyouritem.com. Just starting using the old Gold's software...
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mtnmama
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posted on May 17, 2001 07:58:02 PM
Hi
If you look at the bottom of each page it says
Copyright 1999-2000 TBAY AUCTION INC.® and its affiliates. All Rights Reserved.
Wonder if tbay bought Gold's. Will have to find out.
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rustybore
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posted on May 17, 2001 08:01:39 PM
Looks like this site just opened today - brand spanking new...
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dimview
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posted on May 17, 2001 08:13:31 PM
Yes, I've already made an inquiry about their fee structure as listed at the auction site.
Their fee structure appears to be similar to the "old" eBay, i.e. 25-cent listing plus 5 percent final value fee on items sold up to $10.
They will not be charging listing fees for at least the next three months.
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lovepotions
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posted on May 17, 2001 08:31:22 PM
[quote]Plus, You can Import your Saved Auctions, Feedback Profile and MyPage from Golds Auction. Yes, it's all there, just a click away and you can be back in business here at SYI. [/quote]
This off the announcement page of SYI
Dutchbid bought Golds
Then Golds screwed over Dutchbid and wouldn't hand over everything Dutchbid paid for.
Gold's at the same time was selling their user database resulting in a breach of contract.
I don't care who owns this new site
I am not sure I'd want to be a part of this scenario.
The only site that should be able to import the Golds database info would be Dutchbid only Dutchbid got screwed.
Read the AW new stories and you might need to click around to find the stories about Golds and Dutchbids ill fated partnership.
(edited for spelling)
http://www.lovepotions.net
[ edited by lovepotions on May 17, 2001 08:32 PM ]
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mtnmama
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posted on May 18, 2001 04:55:23 AM
Ghost00, being new here (you just registered on 5/17) are you familiar with this thread?
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=33&thread=8884
Here's the gist of it if you're not.
"To that end, we are asking all of you to refrain from discussing BidBay here. We urge you to post Bidbay issues on their message center forum. Further discussion of Bidbay will be considered disruptive and in
violation of our community guidelines. Users who continue will be subject to suspension."
I would hate to see a new person be suspended for lack of knowledge of the new rules. That filing has been hacked to death over the past few days. And I really don't think it has anything to do with Golds Auctions.
Moderators: I'm not trying to be disruptive or argumentive or combative. Just trying to assist a new user.
[ edited by mtnmama on May 18, 2001 04:56 AM ]
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lovepotions
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posted on May 18, 2001 05:02:37 AM
What in the world does Bidbay's SEC filing have to do with Dutchbid/Gold's/Sellyouritem?
We're talking about these 3 not Bidbay.
http://www.lovepotions.net
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SaraAW
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posted on May 18, 2001 05:02:50 AM
Ghost00,
Please edit your post to take the information about Bidbay out, as discussion about Bidbay is considered disruptive and is a violation of our Community Guidelines.
Thank you,
Sara
[email protected]
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toyranch-07
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posted on May 18, 2001 06:26:49 AM
I think former Gold's users will find some familiar 'faces' at the new site. 
My understanding of the entaglements between the now-defunct Dutchbid and Gold's is different than what has been expressed above, however I have no firsthand knowledge. Hopefully, nobody else posting here does either...
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dimview
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posted on May 18, 2001 06:36:36 AM
Regarding SYI's fee structure, after the free listings period ends in a few months, I do not see it as being cost-effective for sellers.
An item at eBay and SYI with an opening bid of $9 and that sold with one bid would incur total fees of 75 cents at eBay and 70 cents at SYI.
The nickel "savings" hardly seems worth it when you factor in the larger userbase and the likelihood of having multiple bids on the item at eBay.
SYI is going to be a tough-sell to sellers.
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dimview
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posted on May 18, 2001 06:42:22 AM
Ghost00 >
SaraAW, with all do respect this is a public chat forum ...
Bzzzzzt. Wrong answer.
These forums are the private property of AuctionWatch and, although their decision to define BidBay discussion as "disruptive" is clearly arbritary and does a disservice to ALL AuctionWatch users, that is THEIR decision. They have every right to do whatever they want with their property.
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[PROPOSAL] alt.marketing.online.bidbay has been posted to alt.configuration.
[ edited by dimview on May 18, 2001 06:45 AM ]
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Ghost00
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posted on May 18, 2001 06:58:58 AM
Dimeview,
I appreciate the explanation of this sites rules. Seems they are in need of some Free Speech educating.
However, look at my point of view.
This is a property on the interent which they are connected to. I did not have to register on AW to view these chats and read the disturbing posts. Therefore, AW should password code the site so the public will not be able to view the threads and then they can sensor and make up their own rules to the members that want to still post. Similiar to the egroups.
But in my opinion, it is all the controversy that makes the threads so entertaining which in return draws in lookers and participents in which the site needs to strive from to sell advertising.
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dimview
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posted on May 18, 2001 07:01:35 AM
Ghost00 >
I appreciate the explanation of this sites rules. Seems they are in need of some Free Speech educating.
You are talking about AuctionWatch's private property; their are NO FREE SPEECH RIGHTS involved.
But in my opinion, it is all the controversy that makes the threads so entertaining which in return draws in lookers and participents in which the site needs to strive from to sell advertising.
I have to agree. AuctionWatch's decision is ill-conceived and the "traffic" to its forums is in decline.
edited because there's a "edit" button.
[ edited by dimview on May 18, 2001 07:03 AM ]
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SmittyAW
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posted on May 18, 2001 07:08:21 AM
Ghost00..
You were asked to edit your post discussing BidBay and since you refused to do so, I had no choice but to delete it. NO discussion of Bidbay is allowed on these boards as of 05/17/01. If you continue to do so and continue to ignore the guidelines of AuctionWatch,you will be putting your posting privileges in jeopardy. Please review our Community Guidelines before posting again.
Smitty
[email protected]
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dimview
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posted on May 18, 2001 07:17:21 AM
Interesting.
Here we find:
NO discussion of Bidbay is allowed on these boards as of 05/17/01.
But in another thread:
We are locking other BidBay threads as per our announcement in this forum, but will leave this one open for the time being.
A definitive policy would be appreciated, I'm sure, by AuctionWatch users interested in discussing ALL forums, just like the title of THIS forum purports.
[ edited by dimview on May 18, 2001 07:18 AM ]
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Ghost00
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posted on May 18, 2001 07:32:59 AM
Dimeview,
Nice meeting you and I couldn't agree more.
Smitty,
Thanks for making my point for me and embarrassing yourself by deleting my post which was not about Bidbay but referenced to show what happened to Dutchbid. With your keen skills in evaluating and moderating, rest assured if you get canned by AW you will qualified to work at Bidbay!
With that being said....YOU are the weakest link.....Goodbye!
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SmittyAW
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posted on May 18, 2001 07:58:04 AM
Ghost00..
It is apparent that your account was created for the sole purpose of disruption and that is against the Community Guidelines,so your posting privileges have been suspended for 30 days.
Smitty
[email protected]
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mtnmama
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posted on May 18, 2001 08:05:26 AM
"With that being said....YOU are the weakest link.....Goodbye"
Where have I seen that posted before? It sure does ring a bell and a big one too.
dimview, since it is their site they can do as they wish. eBay and another site prohibits posting of competing sites on their message boards, even to discuss the pros and cons. What's the difference here?
You can email me at [email protected].
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dimview
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posted on May 18, 2001 08:10:39 AM
mtnmama >
dimview, since it is their site they can do as they wish. eBay and another site prohibits posting of competing sites on their message boards, even to discuss the pros and cons. What's the difference here?
Where did I say anything to the contrary?
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mtnmama
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posted on May 18, 2001 08:35:36 AM
Dimview, my sincerest apologies, I read it wrong!
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deichen
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posted on May 18, 2001 08:40:58 AM
Mtnmama,
It really should include all topics, though. I posted to the other one and had the entire message deleted, yet others post. If they are going to set rules it should apply across the board.
It does not make any sense to me.
Mtnmama,
Who also said weakest link? Email me!
[ edited by deichen on May 18, 2001 08:41 AM ]
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dimview
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posted on May 18, 2001 08:41:36 AM
Quite alright.
I think we're all getting a bit flustered with the AuctionWatch shenanighans (sp?)these days.
Makes me appreciate Usenet all the more.
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mtnmama
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posted on May 18, 2001 08:42:55 AM
Deichen,
I don't know. It just rings a bell. Go to our forum because there's a discussion there about it as well as I have some cute BLONDE jokes for ya!
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SmittyAW
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posted on May 18, 2001 08:58:10 AM
Everyone..
This thread has strayed off topic. Please address the topic and not each other or this thread will have to be locked.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Smitty
[email protected]
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mtnmama
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posted on May 18, 2001 09:03:07 AM
Just received a letter from the owner of tbayauctionS.com (note the S at the end of auction). He said tbay auction (note no s at the end) has bought that name to use and is now requesting HE, with a similar name, although not the same and certainly was in existence FIRST, close his website.
I've been with tbayauctions (with the s) for over a year. He has done nothing but offer a free service to his users and has done fairly well for a smaller site. This is very discouraging to say the least, that a person can just go buy a name and even though it's not the same demand someone else trying to make a living close his site.
What's wrong with this picture? Why the cutthroat actions on behalf of one auction site toward another. There's room for all! Let the users make their own choices!
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