moonmem-07
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posted on February 1, 2000 10:21:17 AM
Is this the deadbeat season? I'm having lots of problems with deadbeats on Yahoo and Amazon. They are driving me crazy! Some want to cancel 15 days after the auction ends. Some never respond to my Emails. Some say they have sent the payment and it never arrives. What is going on?! Is this happening to other sellers too?
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rti
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posted on February 1, 2000 05:45:15 PM
Yeah, it's happening to me too. However, I can live with my deadbeat ratio which is less than 7%. Since Yahoo! is totally free, completing over 9 out of 10 transactions is Ok with me.
My ratio is even lower at eBay, probably because they have a better enforcement policy.
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adoptatoy
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posted on February 1, 2000 08:13:48 PM
Overall, we are seeing fewer and fewer deadbeats on Yahoo. Maybe down 2/3 from what we would get a few months ago. We have also learned to live with it. About 1 in 8-10 deals don't complete, but 2-3 out of the same 10 deals REPEAT, so it all works out. Not only that, I will take 10 Yahoo deadbeats over 1 on Ebay where I have to endure the NPB policy to get a refund. Man oh man it is pure torture to have track that mess once you become spoiled by Yahoo. Elsa
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comic123
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posted on February 2, 2000 07:36:49 AM
There is someone in Yahoo with over 60 negatives. Check out
long_legged_lust
Why doesn't Yahoo just delete his account?.
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dman3
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posted on February 21, 2000 08:27:20 AM
My Question would be why hasnt someone with a -60 rateing deleted them selves.
I have had several winners who have no responed to my notice that they have won auction lately too and a few who did and said payment was in the mail but weeks later never showed and they stopped answering my messages I just relist and move on.
I am convinced some are kids who are out of school with snow days and others are new people just playing to see how bidding works and when thiers turns out to be the winner on something they were just playing with they just think dont respond and it will go away
I was for a while neg rateing them all but its futile I neg rate then after waiting two months of waiting cancel there bid and they suddenly show up and neg rate me for not waiting a day longer .
claiming they had the flu for two months
my yahoo ID dman_12123 for all who want to veiw my auction
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RBIFF
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posted on February 22, 2000 08:49:01 AM
Since becoming involved in online auctions, I have also had several instances of no contact and no pay. Since using yahoo it is relatively painless, since it is free to sellers. I suppose that you must rely on the rating system to weed out the bad.
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ZZyzx000
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posted on February 23, 2000 09:11:30 AM
What really needs to be done is a simple fix, but i've learned at Yahoo, there is no such thing.
Here's the fix: In the auction bidder qualifier (where you can either require a positive feedback rating or a credit card verification when setting up an auction) you need to add another option which disallows a bidder whether he has a credit card or not, depending on their feedback rating. I would be content just to say no negative rated buyer can bid on my auctions period.
Also, why must I set up these parameters everytime I create or resubmit an auction? I have no desire to change this setting for different auctions (would you allow deadbeats to bid in some of your auctions and not others?).
So all (like moving mountains, I know) Yahoo has to do is let you set that up once in your user profile. Mine would be no negative bidders, and either a credit card verification or else a +2 or higher rating.
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mlwisc
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posted on February 23, 2000 10:49:44 PM
Ebay fund-recovery torture from a small powerseller's perspective: what's with this new ebay rule?? I let ebay "have it"....my deadbeats were up between Christmas and 1/17--to the point where I stopped listing until a few (10) days ago...then Ebay makes it worse by making us file "deadbeat bidder resports" BEFORE we can ask for refunds....and then one has to wait 10 days in-between these two events and THEN one has to make sure that one waits the correct amount of time before filing each report WITHOUT exceeding an overall 45 days--all at the same time. What a bunch of hooey!! Could they possibly make this any more complicated? I'd sell on Yahoo, but the last time I tried only one item out of 15-20 sold--just don't have the type of audience that ebay gets...even when ebay is slow/bad, I sell at least 50% of what I list. Signed: sincerely frustrated ebayer who doesn't mind the deadbeats quite as much as trying to recover auction fees....
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quickdraw29
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posted on February 24, 2000 12:11:51 AM
Yahoo and Amazon do have a higher deadbeat ratio than ebay, but then again it is probably due to the amount of new bidders entering the sites. New bidders can be confused or just not committed to the auction process, so you can't blame them too much. Ebay's new non-payer alert has been beneficial to me. I sell exclusively on ebay after months of trying the others. I close more auctions which saves me time, and the people on ebay generally are nicer and easier to deal with. Yahoo, they use the feedback forum as a means of communication instead of emailing you. It's crazy there!
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bolton-07
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posted on February 24, 2000 07:24:35 AM
I've had several deadbeats but I don't let them bother me. I just leave negative feedback for them. Then, instead of relisting, costing me more possibly, and going through the hassle of getting a refund, I just contact the next highest bidder. They're always excited about winning when they lost the auction.
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qacer
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posted on February 26, 2000 05:32:50 AM
This is not good news to me.. I just started on Yahoo!'s Auctions, and I already have 10 high bidders. The problem is the product I'm selling is used and normally, costs $59.99 (excluding tax) at retail stores. I posted the starting price at $41.00. Now, the highest bid is at $51.00. Adding shipping cost would bring the total to $64.00+, due to its weight and size.
It looks like the highest bidder is a dead beat. No normal buyer would bid on a used item that's close to its retail price, right? Have a look: http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/18150823.
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rachel1
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posted on February 26, 2000 09:05:00 AM
I've never had much luck with yahoo. I found a free site BidBay.com and I'm doing much better!!
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ZZyzx000
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posted on February 26, 2000 08:12:58 PM
You're doing much better at a sight that has 38,000 auctions and plans to charge a listing fee in June?
How many shares of that company do you own?
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heike55
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posted on February 27, 2000 07:07:08 AM
Lately I have some deadbeats that have a +60 or so rating. They won't reply to my e-mails and payment is overdue for 2 weeks. This is a new one for me. Usually my deadbeats are new bidders who only want to "try if it works". Guess I will have to relist the items. ............. You ever had a high bidder with the e-mail address of "[email protected]" ?
I think it's funny that some people are so new that they dont realize, that they have to put their username into their e-mail addresse!!!!!
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ZZyzx000
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posted on February 27, 2000 08:46:40 AM
I think it's less than funny that Yahoo would allow somebody to register an address that isn't legit. This isn't rocket science.
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joystar
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posted on February 29, 2000 05:04:03 AM
Deadbeats come in 2 versions. I won an eBay auction about 2 months ago and the dealers ONLY method of CC info transaction was by split eMail. I'd never done it before & never will again after my experience with him. I sent CC info in split eMail & requested a fast response to make sure it went OK. 5 WEEKS later he emailed me & said the # I'd sent would not work & asked me to send it AGAIN by split eMail. I told him I considered him a nonresponsive deadbeat seller & that he had forfeighted his sale by slow response. He did get his say by calling me a Difficult Buyer in feedback and a few other choice words. Also wrote me to say not to email him anymore. No problem there. That seller never responded to any email I sent in those 5 weeks and messages to his telephone ansering machine where also ignored. Maybe it is the season.
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renner-07
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posted on February 29, 2000 10:33:23 AM
I've found that if I leave negative feedback for a deadbeat who stiffs me they usually try to get back at me by leaving slanderous negative feedback for me. I guess it proves that these people are the jerks that I take them for.
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ZZyzx000
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posted on February 29, 2000 07:11:12 PM
RE: "I sent CC info in split eMail"
You need a brain transplant. What are you sending a stranger your credit card # for?
Let Yahoo handle the verifications and PayPal handle the charges. Those are 2 public companys you can trust with your credit card.
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