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 keziak
 
posted on January 13, 2001 07:44:31 PM new
I'm glancing at the figures you are posting about drops in listings. I don't know what any of it means, since many people can still list if they use their credits.

My bottom line has always been that free or fee is not the issue so much as sales.

Is anyone selling anything?

Or did you all yank your listings so you have nothing for anyone to buy?

keziak

 
 pegasus777
 
posted on January 13, 2001 07:48:55 PM new
I have nothing listed on Yahoo and I don't intend on listing there again. I could never trust them even if they did a 180 on the fees.



 
 pickersangel
 
posted on January 13, 2001 07:49:28 PM new
Three listings, hits appear to be down, no bids.
always pickersangel everywhere
http://homepage.netspaceonline.com/~twobar/pickers.htm
 
 CAgrrl
 
posted on January 13, 2001 08:02:13 PM new
good point Keziak!!!! very good point!!

I myself have sold nothing. That is because I have nothing listed. Conclusion: you can't sell what you don't list! LOL!!!

Will keep you guys posted, I'm on the edge of my chair waiting for the seller to send my latest boxes of goodies. There are about 3 things I want to keep for myself, and the rest I figure will be fine Yahoo candidates. I used to love long weekends, now I HATE EM!!! Waiting for stuff to arrive is always the hardest part!! But I'm happy that at least I won't have to stand in line at the PO tomorrow or Monday...

 
 stockticker
 
posted on January 13, 2001 08:14:54 PM new

I haven't noticed a drop in sales. Today for example I sold 5 items to a total of 2 buyers. I actually expect to do better this coming week as all my almost 600 listings will be reaching their 10 day expiry date (before automatically being relisted) and thus they will be getting good exposure near the top of the categories I list in.

I do have the advantage that many of the items I sell are not available from anyone else on any auction site.

Irene
 
 royrogers
 
posted on January 13, 2001 08:46:59 PM new
Strangely, I am getting more bids than usual (all different bidders) & less take-it - even tho everything has take-it price close to initial bid.

I have had only 1 take-it in past couple of days.

Usually almost everything I sell is take-it at the take-it price...


 
 stockticker
 
posted on January 13, 2001 11:07:43 PM new

Ooops... posted too soon above regarding today's sales. Just sold another 7 items, all to one bidder. (All my auctions are first bid wins.)
 
 granee
 
posted on January 14, 2001 12:17:57 AM new
stockticker, what do you sell (generally, if you don't want to be specific)?

I have 284 current auctions now, have sold 47 this month (11 since I closed and relisted everything Jan. 9th, putting them all at the bottom of category lists), and have one bid each on two WAY-underpriced "hot" items (one is on 7 watchlists with 52 pageviews, a high count for books). About half my listings are "First Bid Wins" because I didn't think to change that until I'd relisted half, so everything that's closed since the 10th has been with one bid.

This is about what I used to do before they fooled with the listing order....not great, just OK, about 33% selling per month (on 3 10-day lists), for a 10-13% sell-through rate. CERTAINLY NOT ENOUGH TO PAY YAHOO'S PROPOSED LISTING FEES.

I've only listed one thing with fees, yesterday, because I just got it, I KNEW it would sell, and it costs me nothing on Yahoo but some feedback credit (I hope it will bring as much on Yahoo as it does on eBad). All the rest that have closed with winners I have NOT relisted, though I have duplicates of most of them. I'm torn between using up my credits NOW, while Yahoo still has a few bidders, or waiting til Feb. 8th when my auctions all close (which *may* be too late, if the bidders have all gone by then, or if eGreed has bought the whole thing up).

I should be listing on some of the 5 dozen online auctions I've been investigating since the fee announcement, but I keep hoping Yahoo will REDUCE the fees or give FREE RELISTS or SOMETHING, so I can just stay on Yahoo. I found myself becoming sad when I relisted on the 9th, not unlike the feeling you have when you move to another home or another city. Not to mention all the extra WORK of listing elsewhere.

Like stockticker, in another 5 days my auctions will all reach closing (before auto-relisting), so I'll see how much sells then, when they have more exposure.

 
 CAgrrl
 
posted on January 14, 2001 12:27:58 AM new
Just popping in real quick to announce that I sold 2 items on Pootah!! Who would have guessed? And they've got about 2000 items now!

 
 keziak
 
posted on January 14, 2001 02:30:08 AM new
Irene -

That's 12 items sold out of 600+ listed? That sounds sort of scary given the new listing fees!

I went on to browse legos, which is something I've bought a lot on ebay. There was a lot listed, but I didn't place any bids because the prices were too high. I can go to the lego store 12 miles from here to pay those prices.

keziak

 
 ilene
 
posted on January 14, 2001 04:24:01 AM new
I have sold over 50 itmes (out of 600 listings) so far this month. My sales on Yahoo are up both this month and last. However, If I paid listing fees I would have paid more for my listing fees than my profit. (The cost of my 600 listings would be almost $400)

 
 stockticker
 
posted on January 14, 2001 08:56:09 AM new

Keziak:

That was one day's worth of sales. Assuming that rate were to continue, 60% of my listings would be sold before the automatic relists expire. Not bad when you consider that I am paying no fees (listed prior to Jan. 10) and those items would otherwise just be sitting in inventory.

I sell paper items, often having dozens of the same item in inventory. To get the best price, I have to pace how I list them on eBay, usually letting at least 2 or 3 weeks lapse after an auction ends before I list another of the same item.

Irene
 
 rolllanotherone
 
posted on January 14, 2001 12:19:39 PM new
We Have Not left Yahoo, what is running will run until it ends, New items being posted already have hits on them, the week in general at yahoo has been normal for this time of year and have had the usual last minute bidders as always so bids that are current dont really count, mid week I thought I had a day off from packing,NOT! checked email as usual an Voila! the last minute sales came in and it was very difficult to keep up as many paid before I even knew they had won. God Bless Yahoo's buyers, they are still in Yahoo. To scrimmage to another site would be fruitless for me since it would only take me away from my more comfortable routine of listing. Items that normally get featured just lose a day of featuring to cover the cost of listing, face it most buyers today Know it is better to bid the last minute to avoid competition, when an item has a bid I feature it on the last 2-3 days of the listing if I think it is worthy of money being spent. Same day different approach is working for me, I dont have to deal with a new site and the politic's envolved. The more that leave yahoo the better for me? Maybe yes, maybe No, bottom line is sales, they are still coming so we will stay.

 
 keziak
 
posted on January 14, 2001 04:59:18 PM new
You say "as usual" the last minute sales came in? Why would there be last minute sales if, until this past week, the listings were not arranged in order by when they closed?

I would be cool with last minute sales, too, if anything actually did sell.

Yahoo is going to have to get a lot more coherent to me before I can afford to throw listing fees at it. Which is frustrating because I would happily list here to avoid FVF's.

keziak

 
 vorlon4
 
posted on January 14, 2001 05:32:03 PM new
Posted 15 last night-sold 12 (all to the same guy), 2 others have bids.

As long as this pattern plus my Monopoloy money hold out I'll be staying. After the Monopoly's gone I'll evaluate. But as long as my sell through remains at 80-90% for the prices I want- I have no reason to go elsewhere.

NOT Vorlon4 on FEEbay

 
 anzco
 
posted on January 14, 2001 06:04:47 PM new
Before Christmas and through the end of December I was selling about 60% of all my listings...

Since the announcement of fees, I have sold NOTHING. I have some listings remaining due to credits but once they run out, I am GONE!

It seems the buyers have moved on too!

Yahoo, you have really screwed things up!
 
 
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