telwil
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posted on February 10, 2001 12:39:21 PM new
Now that most of the yahoo free listings are done! And I guess they are where they want to be (Close to the bottom) will the new Yahoo raise up and take command of what is left? They said they would dump the junk and bring bidders to their site (Let's see 5 sellers 2 bidders lol.) I no their are people that would not leave Yahoo if it charged $1.00 to list a 25 cent item but can they keep it from sinking any farther?
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tentwentytwo
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posted on February 10, 2001 12:52:35 PM new
Yes, I truly think Yahoo auctions will level out, when they implode the building that the staff worked in and remove the debirs.
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VeryModern
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posted on February 10, 2001 01:12:24 PM new
no.
When the last of the 14 day bulk loaded auctions end there will not be enough people (even with credits) willing to bother listing to come anywhere near replacing what will drop off.
Why, why, why would anyone shop 3 items on Yahoo when they could shop 3500 on Ebay?
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dimview
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posted on February 10, 2001 01:25:02 PM new
VeryModern >
Why, why, why would anyone shop 3 items on Yahoo when they could shop 3500 on Ebay?
According to the convoluted thought of the Yahoo!Cheerleaders, Yahoo!Auctions is much better with less items to wade through, so they're locating exactly what they've been looking for, although I still don't quite understand how the remaining sellers know what specific items buyers are looking for.
Makes me wonder about eBay with all those millions of listings that buyers are wading through.
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figmente
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posted on February 10, 2001 02:00:07 PM new
Many sellers will give the new yahoo a chance, especially those with substantial bonus credits. A bit of a rebound could even be likely as it makes some sense for sellers to have waited for the free listings to time out before inserting paid listings. In the longer term yahoo will rebound or continue to decline based on to what extent sellers can get satisfactory results. There are some categories where yahoo still shows some life (morgan dollars for example)... but they seem awfully sparse. For a really hot item such as a PS2 2 months ago, one can always expect comparable results such that the FVF delta means a few extra dollars in the seller's favor.
Personally I think that the new yahoo will tend to resemble the amazon ghost town rather than a strenthened up-and-comer; That if they were strong enough to succeed as a fee paid site they would have had ample income from feature bidding to make doing so unnecessary. OTOH yahooo does have name recognition, promotional capabilities, and many nice features to give it a fighting chance.
Of marginal relevance, comparisons of sales before and after the changeover will be biased by the huge sales reduction in the last quarter self inflicted by the "seller's rewards" listing order boondoggle.
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Spreland
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posted on February 10, 2001 02:41:12 PM new
>>>Many sellers will give the new yahoo a chance, especially those with substantial bonus credits.<<<<
I will not join these sellers. I have just under $400 in listing credits which I will leave with Yahoo until they understand its not a one way street. It has to be a win/win situation. I won't list on Yahoo to make minimum wage. Been there, done that with eBay. Yahoo's current rates may work for some sellers, but I don't have to go through the routine to realize it would be a waste of time.
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civphoto
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posted on February 10, 2001 03:19:30 PM new
I have been with Yahoo for a couple of years. I normally list around 125 items. I have cut that back to 60 some, and will be cutting back to around 30 or so as my auctions expire. No cash - just using the Yahoo funny money. I expect it won't be too long till the remaining sales I have dry up.
I think my remaining credits - 470 - will mostly end up sitting there if Bidville continues it's upward trend. Buyers WILL NOT continue to visit a site where they are wasting their time with a thin selection.
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outoftheblue
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posted on February 10, 2001 11:46:49 PM new
I think that Yahoo has bottomed out for now. They still have a lot of bulk loader listings and free credits. When those are used up the numbers will fall again.
A lot of categories are practicly empty. Other categories are being boosted by volume sellers (some with 500 - 1000 listings currently running). These people must be using credits. I can't see anyone paying that much to list on Yahoo.
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colin
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posted on February 11, 2001 08:35:38 AM new
I don't believe Yahoo has bottomed yet. I think it will tke a month or so more. I've gone from 200 plus items to 6 (I think). These are bigger ticket items Motorcycles, a car and a vintage Camper trailer. 2 bucks is cheaper then the $25 on E-bay. I just want them to be seen...They will sell some time. Prices are right, etc. I get more interest on the motorcycle from my website then from Yahoo at the moment. I hate to say it but I think Yahoo auctions is dying a swift death....with no cure in site. Less sellers means fewer items and even fewer browsers. If you don't offer the item at exactly what you want forget it.
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granee
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posted on February 11, 2001 11:44:00 PM new
Even if sellers start listing again using their "funny money" feedback credits (which has been happening A LITTLE during the past few days (enough to bring the total back up from -92% to -91%), Yahoo won't stay level for much longer. The last of the free bulk loader listings end by around midnight, Feb. 20th, and believe me, there are A HUGE NUMBER of free bulk loader listings still on the Auction. I was *amazed* at the number when I looked a few days ago.
When the "paid" relists run their 10 and 14 days, whether sellers will bother to keep relisting depends upon 1) whether anything is still selling, and 2) whether they still have any credits left, and 3) whether it's deemed "worth the effort".
I think the stooges at YaWho are still clueless....kind of like Larry, Curly & Moe---who keep getting hit over the head, but coming back for more (over  and over and over again).
Think we can knock some sense into them????? 
[ edited by granee on Feb 11, 2001 11:49 PM ]
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stockticker
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posted on February 12, 2001 05:39:32 AM new
I started to use my funny money yesterday afternoon. I listed 4 items (1st bid wins) and then was startled to receive a auction win notification from Yahoo. The item had only been listed for 15 minutes (in nautical collectibles).
Irene
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zzyzx000
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posted on February 12, 2001 09:16:53 AM new
Perhaps the brass at YaWho? were consulting with Henry Blodgett who reported on Jan 3:
"Henry Blodget, Merrill Lynch's Internet analyst, said he expects listing fees could contribute $30 million to $80 million in revenue in 2001, or 2 percent to 5 percent of projected revenue of $1.4 billion. "
If you generously estimate the average listing fee for a 10 day auction is $.50 the each listing generates $18.25 per year. That would take 1.64 million ongoing listings to meat Blodgett's low end estimate and 4.38 Million ongoing listings to meet his high end prediction.
Not to too my own horn (toot-toot) but about the same time I predicted 300,000 listings by Feb. 11.
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figmente
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posted on February 12, 2001 09:48:28 AM new
Somehow it seems that Mr. Blodgett was initially quoted as predicting about a 50% drop off. More recently he is backquoted as predicting 70-80%, or more... apparently he is allowed to revise his predictions retroactively (that should make for great accuracy).
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mballai
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posted on February 12, 2001 01:11:44 PM new
Yahoo is already a flatliner.
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