posted on February 15, 2001 11:45:34 PM new
I too have followed Yahoo's downward spiral thanks to dimview and others? What will it take to put Yahoo in the other auction catagory and move one of the other contenders forward?
posted on February 16, 2001 12:11:44 AM new
I have asked this guestion and had no reply from AW. Put the Flowers on the Yahoo grave and bring up the new #2.
posted on February 16, 2001 06:53:14 AM new
Hi all, is BidBay or BidVille number two? I guess BidBay has a different way of counting? Can someone explain it to me. Thanks
Oh what about Half.Com do they count?
Ok no more questions.
Till next time.
posted on February 16, 2001 07:10:18 AM new
How do you determine who "number 2" is? It can't be based on the number of listings as that is a meaningless number (as proven by BidVille - a gazillion listings and 19 bids).
Alphabetically works for me. And leave ALL of the upstarts under "Other" - they come and go too frequently to get their own line
posted on February 16, 2001 07:23:43 AM new
RB,
As you have previously stated, you are primarily a buyer, so as a buyer, why do you run BidVille down in the ground. No, I do not work for BidVille! I would have never looked at it until Yahoo went nuts. Anyway, if I was buying, I usually look on eBay because they have the most choices. So, we have all heard your opinion and you do have choices, so use them. It really seems like you have a personal problem with all of the free sites and that is your choice, but some of us are trying to help make the other free sites work, and that is our choice. Oh, I think BidVille has more than 19 bids going on right now. If you want to quote statistics, why don't you spend time like Dimview and some of the others and get the correct Numbers!
posted on February 16, 2001 08:06:01 AM new
eBay has hundreds of items I would like to bid on, but I am currently serving an "indefinite suspension" and can't play there
As to my "attitude", it's a free world and we are both entitled to our opinions. I just happen to believe that these "free" auction sites are stringing you along and when you get burned or pissed off in a few months when they change their rules, you'll be back here agreeing with me.
Besides, someone has to provide "balance" for the BidVille et al Pom Pom wavers
posted on February 16, 2001 08:26:38 AM new
RB >
Besides, someone has to provide "balance" for the BidVille et al Pom Pom wavers.
< LOL >
Better watch out on that "balance" beam, there, because this one is on a steep incline. Not too long ago Bidville had some 95,000 listings, today more than 315,000.
Put that, and the ongoing decline in Yahoo!Auctions listings, into perspective for us.
posted on February 16, 2001 08:38:21 AM new
dimview
I think that Bidville has a chance to become the clear #2 choice to Ebay, but, I don't think it is there yet. The number of listings is nice and buyers will eventually come but it will take a while before listing on Bidville becomes productive.
Until then I will continue to use up my listing credits and watch the other sites.
posted on February 16, 2001 08:54:46 AM new
outoftheblue,
I quite agree. Since Timothy Koogle, c.e.o. of Yahoo! himself stated that 900,000 listings was the critical mass for Yahoo!Auctions, I'm comfortable with using that figure.
Yahoo!Auctions with 250,000 lisitings, and Bidville with 315,000 listings, are both below that critical mass. But while Yahoo!Auctions cannot put anything together on the upside in terms of listings, Bidville does have listings momentum.
I have listings at several alternative auction sites, as do many other sellers. We are working to attract buyers to all of them and recognize that will take some time.
That's why I find it amusing that those who defended Yahoo!Auctions decision to implement listing fees, telling us was a great idea it was, and who now, after seeing the results, have shifted their focus to dismissing the early successes that sellers are reporting for alternative auction sites.
posted on February 16, 2001 09:17:19 AM new
"Not too long ago Bidville had some 95,000 listings, today more than 315,000."
As I, and many others have stated here ... that number is meaningless. They can have a gazillion listings, or even a whole-bunch-of-gazillion listings, but without bids and sales, it's doomed
wrt "perspective", it's pretty obvious. All you have to do is "look" at the listings on BidVille. Why don't you do your numbers trick and tell us how many of those 315,000 listings are for sports cards (arghh) and get-rich-quick scams ... all those things that Yahoooo was forcing off their site.
I would also like to see some real numbers wrt to how many of these 315,000 listings will end without a single bid. I'd be willing to bet that at least 95% of them will end up getting relisted ad infinitum or until BidVille declares bankruptcy ... which ever occurs first.
posted on February 16, 2001 09:28:29 AM new
I put up 4 items on Yahoo on a lark - already have hits on all 4, 1 has more hits on it than the same item on Ebay - and 2 bids.
Slow, but worth the 20 cents to list small volumes if I still make sales.
MUCH lower volume that I used to list there, but I think I'm taking those things fishing on the Pier.
posted on February 16, 2001 02:02:33 PM newI just happen to believe that these "free" auction sites are stringing you along and when you get burned or pissed off in a few months when they change their rules, you'll be back here agreeing with me.
RB,
But.....if we sold anything and didn't have to pay fees then we are still better off. Even if Free auctions comes to an end...then I will still be happy about all the fees I saved up to that point! That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
posted on February 16, 2001 02:41:03 PM newI guess BidBay has a different way of counting? Can someone explain it to me. Thanks
The problem is with quantities in Dutch auctions. Bidbay discovered that other sites include multiple items in a Dutch listing in their auction count. So Bidbay started doing the same thing. No problem so far.
But then the "Bidbay CEO" started encouraging members to list quantities of up to 100,000 to help inflate their numbers. So, you have people who sell stuff like "Make a Million in Online Auction CD's" listing multiples of 100,000 copies (Hey, if someone mailed them half a million dollars, they could come up with 100,000 copies, after all.)
So 1 million listings on Bidbay may be made up of as little as 10 auctions.
I have no idea what the actual numbers are, but to get an idea of comparative numbers, pick a few favorite terms and do a search on each site. I think you will find that for almost any term, Ebay has far, far more listings, Bidville and Yahoo have fairly similar but much smaller numbers, and Bidbay has so few actual listings that your searches may not turn up any items at all.
