posted on February 20, 2001 11:54:59 AM new
I know alot of us are angry at yahoo's CS and how their management seems to put the sellers who abandonded yahoo down with their spin doctor terminology, but in the end what if they were right? That the sellers start to sell high quality stuff, and the bidders start to come. Would we all owe the robots an apologize?
posted on February 20, 2001 12:19:29 PM new
ROFLMAO!!!!!
Edited to add: No, because there can be no "RIGHT" to the way they treated the people that built "THEIR" auction site. The first wrong is the use of the ribots to begin with.
Apologise....HAHAHAHA
[ edited by jimhhow on Feb 20, 2001 12:23 PM ]
posted on February 20, 2001 12:21:57 PM new
Feelings don't need to be apologized for - they are generally outside our control. We can control our actions though. Shouldn't the question be:
Does anyone feel that they should apologize for their behavior in response to Yahoo's decision to start charge fees?
posted on February 20, 2001 12:24:56 PM newSurely, you must be joking. Owe them an apology? For what? For the way they have talked down about the "quality" of items, "noise", etc. I don't know about others, but when I am insulted, with no grounds for such comments. It will be a cold day in hell before I apologize to any such person, or corporate identity.
posted on February 20, 2001 03:59:18 PM new
It's been more than a month. Yahoo said that once the clutter was removed the sellers that stayed would reap the benefits. Sales were a lot better before this all happened. I'm still waiting to reap the benefits they were talking about....
A lot of my friends and customers have moved on to other sites. Why would I want to apologize to them?
posted on February 20, 2001 05:13:40 PM new
Of course, but does it matter and do they care?
Did yahoo apologize for the nutty listing order initiative? (Or even admit that it was a counterproductive mistake?) Is there a chance in a million that they will apologize if yahoo with fees continues the downslope?
I see no sign that they were right. yahoo auction transformation proceeds much like amazon did a while back. In the Books categories yahoo had the abysmal sell through they want to be rid of, but they were a decent venue to buy or sell a cheap book, now they still have abysmal sell through, but with almost no offerings, thus even if it should work out for the site as a whole, or for some hot categories, there is no way it will there.
In other categories I look at, so far I see no significant increase in higher quality offerings, just elimination of the less serious offerings.
Repeatedly yahoo says they are eliminating "spam", the only hints we have as to what they are defining as spam are -
A. whatever is eliminated
B. 2nd hand quote indicating 'get rich quick schemes'
As the 2nd is not at all inhibited by the fees, they must mean all low price and slow moving offerings per A.
Most other free auction sites in the past have shown fees at zero with the clear implication that they reserve the liklihood that they will be increased should the market appear ready to bear it. Unlike that yahoo stated everywhere that the auctions were provided as a free service and included no counterindications. Yet they made their change with a single week notice. Obviously they did not feel that they owed their users consideration.
It is certainly true that the free yahoo auctions suffered from "clutter", but it is not clear that the new one offers enough lookers to attract significant numbers of new sellers, and vice-versa.
posted on February 20, 2001 06:30:29 PM new
Even if they are right I'd still not be able to sell my low end stuff on Yahoo because of the fees. But if the bidding takes off on my higher end stuff, then they win my business on those items. It's strictly business not emotion that guides my decisions.
posted on February 20, 2001 07:36:01 PM newBut if the bidding takes off on my higher end stuff, then they win my business on those items. It's strictly business not emotion that guides my decisions.
posted on February 20, 2001 08:16:05 PM new
I don't think that anger justifies tacky behavior - like the person who used Yahoo's question feature to send me spam e-mail urging me to go to another site - or the upset sellers who in their Yahoo auctions showed links to pages which trashed Yahoo.
posted on February 21, 2001 12:55:20 AM new
Tonights check of Yahoos 24 hour bid rate = 3%. In other words - 3% of the auctions ending within the next 24 hours have at least 1 bid. The large majority ONLY have one bid, a very few have 2, none had 3 or more. This is based on sampling a broad cross section of Yahoo auctions.
We still predict that Yahoo aucitons will not survive once the credit balance accounts are used up.
If lots of buyers and high bid rates were based on high quality listings, Old and Sold would be the hottest online auction site! It is a nice site, but suffers from the same dismal bidding rates as all the other nice sites.
Yahoo was on the CUSP of starting to really give ebaY a run - they willfully destroyed it with arrogance, lack of understanding of their customers, and sheer unadulturated stupidity. - Rosalinda
TAGnotes - daily email synopsis about the Online Auction Industry http://www.topica.com/lists/tagnotes
posted on February 21, 2001 04:07:13 AM new
Are you serious??? This must be a joke! YAHOO! treated their members base very badly with the way they went about this. They acted like most of what we sold was trash and clutter, they talked way down to us at the chats when they first announced this madness, and they continue to treat those few that are left badly by deleting their user ID's. I have NOTHING to apologize about.
How can they have been right anyway? Just look at the sight now! It is a joke. An auction site can never declutter themselves, either, that is a stupid idea. There will always be stuff on there, that others consider trash. Who cares, if you aren't interested in it, keep scrolling. It never bothered me and I have sold items that were under $5.00!
Yahoo is the ones who were wrong and they would rather lose out then "rethink" things and go with FVF. This is what they should have done all along but they did NOT listen and did not care.
I would never apologize for speaking the truth about there business dealings. It has been fact, even if it was also spoke with emotion.
edited because I made a mistake spelling!
[ edited by deichen on Feb 21, 2001 04:08 AM ]
posted on February 21, 2001 06:23:21 AM new
Just to let you guys know, the post was suppose to be satirical, but I don't know how to put those smilies. How do you them?
