posted on April 20, 2000 11:11:23 AM new
Has this ever happened to anyone else? One of my auctions closed successfully and I received an auction close notice from Yahoo. I wasn't surprised because this person had placed his bid a week before. The day the auction ended, I checked the auction page to get the winner's e-mail address and I sent him an e-mail with all the shipping info. Then, the day after the auction ended, I went to my "closed auction" page to see if any other auctions had closed, and I was shocked to see that the auction that had closed successfully the day previous was there, but this time WITH NO WINNING BIDDER ID -- it had vanished. I checked the auction page, it wasn't there. I checked the "bid history" page, there was no trace of any bids having been placed. I then went into the "advanced bid history" page, and boom!, there it all was. The winning bidder's winning bid and then his cancellation of his bid a full day after the auction ended and we received Yahoo win notices!
I have e-mailed Yahoo 3 times to no avail. As we all know, their canned responses are laughable and mostly show they do not read them at all. I beleive this bidder circumvented Yahoo's system -- either that, or it is a Yahoo insider fooling around.
posted on April 20, 2000 01:02:13 PM new
Oops, I forgot to add: I cannot leave him any feedback at all because, remember, he effectively removed himself from the auction except on the "advanced bid history" page. I cannot even warn others about this bidder.
posted on April 20, 2000 01:07:02 PM new
I am sad Yahoo will not pay any attention to this as it is an alarming problem on Yahoo because:
1.) bidders can supposedly retract their bids only on the final bid submittal page; once they actually place their bid -- they cannot cancel them (supposedly)
2.) only sellers are supposed to be capable of cancelling bids on behalf of bidders who request it if the seller agrees (this did not happen)
3.) if others do what this bidder did, auctions will keep closing "successfully' to no avail and we will not be able to leave negative feedback for these bidders who have corrupted Yahoo's system (unless this is a Yahoo insider, which is possible)
[ edited by badcompany on Apr 20, 2000 01:08 PM ]
posted on April 20, 2000 03:15:57 PM new
I've never experienced that, but I would not be happy if AFTER an auction someone could cancel their bid - Yahoo definitely needs to look in to this...
BUT by and large I am VERY pleased with Yahoo and I am an eBay "power seller," who is moving more and more over to Yahoo, selling as well and not being stiffed all the time by Greedbay!
posted on April 20, 2000 03:54:26 PM new
I would hold off on condeming this bidder this sounds more like a yahoo bug I have seen many times as of late
bidders cant cancel bids on yahoo only sellers can . sometimes though bits of info will go missing on yahoos pages.
hopefully when you went to get the email you didnt accidently click the remove bidders link that is right next to the email address.
buy the way you dont give your self a neg canceling your winning bid on yahoo but when a seller cancels an auction that is active instead of closeing it out early they lose one showing rateing you dont really lose the rateing or get a neg its still there when people check your rateing page.
if you have a rateing of 10 and forgot to mark allow to close earily and you fine a reason it become nessary to end this auction and have to use the cancel next time you veiw your booth you will see only 9 rateings next to your ID
posted on April 20, 2000 04:05:52 PM new
dman -- I sent the first e-mail to this bidder at 08:37 a.m. PST. His bid was cancelled on the same day at 13:17 PST, so I didn't remove him by mistake (unfortuantely). He has never responded to my two e-mails either.
posted on April 20, 2000 04:36:15 PM new
I still feel your going to find it is a yahoo bug. bthe bidders on yahoo must email the seller to cancel bids inless this person has your auction password
posted on April 20, 2000 04:40:45 PM new
I believe it may be a Yahoo bug. That is why it is frustrating that Yahoo will pay no attention to it. However, because the winning bidder has not responded in almost 2 weeks at all -- to my shipping info e-mail or to my second e-mail which asked him why he cancelled his bid (this was sent before I knew that it shold be impossible to cancel your own bid), I believe he either circumvented Yahoo's system (allowed by a Yahoo bug) or it may be an inside job. What else can I think?
posted on April 28, 2000 09:50:20 AM new
It either has to be a good hacker or someone who works at yahoo. you can not cancil a bid after the auction closes, I'm not sure you can cancil a bid during the auction
someone out there is pretty good...
