Did you know that 47 countries have
re-established their embassies in Iraq?
Did you know that the Iraqi current government employs 1.2 million Iraqi people?
Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated, 364 schools are under rehabilitation, 263 schools are now under
construction and 38 new schools have been built in Iraq?
Did you know that Iraq's higher educational
structure consists of 20 Universities, 46 Institutes or colleges and 4 research centers...all currently operating?
Did you know that 25 Iraq students departed for the United States in January 2005 for the re-established Fulbright
program?
Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is
operational?! They have 5- 100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels and a naval infantry regiment.
Did you know that Iraq's Air Force consists of three operational squadrons, which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US
C-130 transport aircraft (under Iraqi operational control) which operate day and night, and will soon add 16 UH-1 helicopters and 4 bell jet rangers?
Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist unit and a Commando Battalion?
Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000 fully trained and equipped police officers?
Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq that produce over 3500 new officers each 8 weeks?
Did you know there are more than 1100 building projects going on in Iraq?
They include 364 schools, 67 public clinics, 15 hospitals, 83 railroad stations, 22 oil facilities, 93 water
facilities and 69 electrical facilities.
Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5 have received the first 2 series of polio vaccinations?
Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were enrolled in primary school by mid October?
Did you know that there are 1,192,000 cell phone subscribers in Iraq and phone use has gone up 158%?
Did you know that Iraq has an independent media that consist of 75 radio stations, 180 newspapers and 10 television
stations?
Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange opened in June of 2004?
Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi
presidential election had a recent televised debate recently?
OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW!
WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?
OUR MEDIA WOULDN'T TELL US!
Instead of reflecting our love for our country, we get photos of flag burning incidents at Abu Ghraib and people
throwing snowballs at
presidential motorcades.
The lack of accentuating the positive in Iraq serves two purposes. It is intended to undermine the world's perception of the United States thus minimizing consequent support, and it is intended to discourage American citizens.
All of the above facts are verifiable on the Department of Defense website.
posted on August 27, 2005 08:16:57 AM new
Colin - If you didn't know much of that then you are just not paying attention to the media.
Much of that has been spoken about at one time or another. The problem is that there is a bit of misrepresentation there. It's not as if we built the schools or universities. They have long existed. I would rather know how many of them today have the same level of consistant water and power service that they had when we came in. The cell phone usage has increased because it's cheaper to put up towers than to rebuild the original phone infastrusture that was blown to hell. Etc.
Personally I think the announcement I would best want to hear right now regarding Iraq is that we are sending 100,000 additional troup members over but that they are all from the Corp of Engineers, structural specialists and every guard member we have that could be pulled from plumbing, electrical and construction backgrounds.
The best way to move this effort closer to fruition is to start rebuilding what we destroyed and returned to the Iraqi people the country they had before we arrived.
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posted on August 27, 2005 08:57:26 AM new
"I would rather know"....
Well you would have known IF you had bothered to read ANY of the links I've provide which tells us that they've been back up to pre-war levels since 2003.
The "Good News" links I've continually posted always address what IS being accomplished in Iraq. But few on the left here read them...and those that do mock them. So....it has appeared to me that they'd rather stay misinformed than actually hear the truth of the matter.
And there are several online sites that continually speak to the issue of the poor condition that Iraq was in BEFORE this war even started. But, nope the left won't place any blame on saddam. But hey...blame America for it all.....it's always all OUR fault no matter the truth.
According to reports I've read, not only has Iraq electricity been back to pre-war levels since 2003 but 80% of the damage to their grids, pipelines, etc. has been caused AFTER the war...by the terrorists groups, NOT from the US bombings.
So don't go blameing US for all this rot. Get informed to what bad shape all these utilities were in before we even went in. Get informed to when the post-war levels returned to what they were BEFORE we went to war with them. Get informed on how much damage has been done inside Iraq BY THEIR OWN CITIZENS....NOT the US.
God, you 'blame America first' group just slay me. Give credit where credit is due for once will ya?
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 27, 2005 09:10 AM ]
posted on August 27, 2005 09:02:42 AM new
Hi Colin - Always good to see you back.
NO, most American's ARENT hearing this type of news. The left leaning media won't report on the positives that are taking place in Iraq. Remember they were against going to war and their still only reporting all the negative.\
I've even posted an article where the NYT, and other liberal MSM, admits themselves readers are complaining they're only getting ONE SIDE of the Iraq story from them. At an editors meeting in NY, recently, they've all admitted they'll try and do a better job of reporting in a more 'balanced and fair' manner.
You think that does any good to change the minds of those who didn't think we ever should have gone to war? heck no. Not one.
And just so you know Colin, this article has been posted here before...and we have discussed this NON-reporting of the positive that is occurring in Iraq. Some here even go so far as to call the few news media that have reported any GOOD NEWS...rags.
They're in totaly denial. TOTAL.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 09:06:30 AM new
A few nights ago I saw a story on the recovery of the marshlands in Iraq (the biblical garden of eden area) with the help of funding from the Japanese and how it will provide drinking water to about 100,000 people.
Good news stories concerning the war in Iraq are not major headline news stories but they are reported on and I do see them. Of course lindak is in denial that I watch them and last time I mentioned any of them she became so outraged that I had actually viewed good stories (because it wasn’t the answer she was expecting), she threw a major temper tantrum and called me ‘evil’.
I am not blind to the reality of the true situation in Iraq though.
There was an article in Christian Science Monitor yesterday that reports on the true picture of Iraqi reconstruction and the limited progress and the reasons why.
posted on August 27, 2005 09:15:19 AM new
kiara, clue in to the fact that I'm referring to AMERICAN news papers....and that THEY have admitted this themselves....not I.
geeze
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 09:18:14 AM new
That email forward hardly qualifies as a news report, although I'm sure at least parts of it are factual. It is good to hear actual reports on good things happening in Iraq. I heard some last evening on PBS I think.
The left leaning media won't report on the positives that are taking place in Iraq.
I don't think it's a left-right issue. The news has always thrived on disaster. I can remember during Viet Nam, first up on the news was the day's body count.
How many reports did you read in this morning's paper about people who weren't murdered last night in your hometown?
How many stores weren't robbed?
How many kids didn't drop out of school?
How many babies weren't aborted?
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posted on August 27, 2005 09:24:16 AM new
profe, I don't believe your example is accurate.
We hear TONS of news, articles that speak to the issue of what bad shape their electrical grids are in...what bad shape their ability to produce oil for revenue are in.
And it's not a matter of reporting the 'weren'ts' nor the 'didn'ts'....because good things ARE ocurring there. And to give American's a BALANCED picture of the situation in Iraq.....only reporting on the negative is not cutting it in any way, shape or form. period.
That's NOT balanced reporting....it's biased reporting...to support their opposition of the war - and to this President. JUST like they did in VN...yes.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 27, 2005 09:28 AM ]
posted on August 27, 2005 09:42:39 AM new
::Well you would have known IF you had bothered to read ANY of the links I've provide which tells us that they've been back up to pre-war levels since 2003.::
LInda - they had consistant power and water services prior to our invasion Linda - they do not now. They have intermitten services and in some areas are still waiting for them to be even partially restored.
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posted on August 27, 2005 09:46:00 AM new
I’m sorry, lindak. After I reported the good news stories (none of which were ‘evil’) you said I didn’t have any concept of what good actually means, that I didn’t understand the difference between good and evil and that my thought process was twisted and then throughout the rest of the thread you were in complete denial that I had reported any good news stories.
posted on August 27, 2005 09:53:17 AM new
No fenix That's just not true in the sense that biased reporting will take one area of Iraq and use that for their example. What they rarely print is all those areas that either didn't have ANY of these utilities AT ALL...or very low power. THOSE are the ones we American's don't see the left-leaning MSM reporting.
And as I've said....when the 2003 levels were put back to pre-war levels....the Iraqi insurgents/terrorists have continually worked to destroy them. They're stealing the copper, other metals etc....from the ones that WERE already repaird. 80% of the post-war damage was caused by these idiots/thieves...NOT THE US.
You are blaming the wrong people...the US...not them. When the FACTS are we have NOT been destroying what we rebuilt. WE are not blowing up the pipelines either before the war or after...THEY were. We have made better the water issue in some areas....we have NOT made it worse.
You're all off on blaming the WRONG party.
It was saddam who, according to reports from those working on the grids who let their electrical system "ROT"....NOT US. SADDAM
But you blame us...just like most liberals here. It's always America's fault. No blame for the war being prevented IF only saddam had done as the US resolutions told him to do. NO blame on saddam for the condition HE let his country fall into. NO blame for the terrorists who are doing 80% of the new damage to their country.
Heck no...blame the US whose been doing their best to repair/make functional/make life better for the Iraqi people....WHILE trying to stay alive and fight a war.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 10:00:02 AM new
LOL kiara....YOU start something and now you want to move on?
Doesn't work that way sweetie. YOU made a false accusation and with your own explanation have just shown everyone that I didn't EVER call you evil. That it is YOU who can't comprehend what is said....vs...what YOU make up in your little bitty mind.
Not being able to tell the difference between good and evil is MUCH different than me saying "you are an evil person, kiara"
But I understand, there are so many things you just don't 'get'.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
edited to add kiara's own words....
[i]Of course lindak is in denial that I watch them and last time I mentioned any of them she became so outraged that I had actually viewed good stories (because it wasn't the answer she was expecting), she threw a major temper tantrum and called me 'evil'.
And she uses this statement as her defense.
I'm sorry, lindak. After I reported the good news stories (none of which were 'evil') you said I didn't have any concept of what good actually means, that I didn't understand the difference between good and evil and that my thought process was twisted and then throughout the rest of the thread you were in complete denial that I had reported any good news stories.
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And right here we can see I WAS correct....her thought process is VERY twisted.
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 27, 2005 10:10 AM ]
posted on August 27, 2005 10:04:44 AM new
lindak, is it so difficult for you to just accept an apology without lowering yourself by taunting and acting like such a fool afterwards?
posted on August 27, 2005 10:05:46 AM new
Oh whoopee ding! The Iraqis have intermittent power and water and schools have been rebuilt.....and LOOK AT THE PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Almost 2, 000 Americans killed, thousands more with horrible injuries, and we'll be paying off Halliburton for the next 50 years!
And all for a LIE!
posted on August 27, 2005 10:11:32 AM new
And LindaKKK, if you support the troops so much why aren't you IN IRAQ!
C'mon, you could take a lovely desert vacation...go from town to town and report all the good news YOURSELF! You're rich, you're retired, YOU have the time. YOU want to straighten everyone out on conditions there.
Go ahead, I'm sure you'll be safe and have luxury acommodations while traveling....but remember even if you're lucky enough to get a Humvee WITH armor that doesn't always stop those roadside bombs!
posted on August 27, 2005 10:16:51 AM new
Difficult to accept an apology? Where do you see an apology? I don't. Are you saying YOU apologized to me?
kiara...I love how you try to make a totally false accusation against me....then attempt to put the blame on me when I'm pointing our you are an out-and-out-liar because your comprehension skills are severely lacking.....not because what you are saying is true....because as we can clearly see her....I did NOT call you evil.
So...when you start something don't be surprise that I will prove you lied...and that imo, it's because you twist what is said around. Or quit twisting what is said....and try to comprehend it before you go making false accusation AGAIN.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 10:30:55 AM new
lindak, I realize that you are now in such a total rage that you've completely missed where I apologized. If you would go back and read you would see it.
posted on August 27, 2005 10:51:31 AM new
kiara - don't keep presenting/assuming what you THINK my emotions are....they belong to me...NOT YOU.
I am not posting in RAGE as you always assume and state. Incorrectly as ALWAYS.
But am I angry? YESDo you disgust me? YES
Because you do this all the time....and then the thread gets taken off topic while I prove you wrong.
It would be REAL nice and ADULT like if you would just quit twisting what I say...then there will be no necessity on my part to prove you wrong....and to go through all this nonsense with you, over and over and over again.
So as far as you apologizing....I didn't read it and won't be going back to see. I can only hope/wish for the time to come will you will STOP this nonsense and GROW UP. Then you won't need to constanly be pretending you're sorry.
Sorry would be when you don't do something over and over again. Apologizing doesn't cut it when it's repeated all the time. The apology then has no meaning to it.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 10:59:39 AM newkiara - don't keep presenting/assuming what you THINK my emotions are....they belong to me...NOT YOU.
Out of the mouth of someone who has spent more than a year trying to determine MY emotions (even being critical yesterday that mine didn't match her lower base ones)
So as far as you apologizing....I didn't read it and won't be going back to see.
posted on August 27, 2005 11:11:30 AM new
Not quite kiara.
Because you apologize [if there really was one]....I only read you saying I'm sorry then pointing out in that next paragraph you wrote...your DEFENSE of me calling you evil. IF that was an apology ha ha ha....keep it.
You 'apology' doesn't have any meaning....your words here are always to play games. You do this all the time. So, imo, your word has absolutely no value...no truth to it....means nothing....and can't be believed. It CERTAINLY isn't believed by me....who you've done this to a million times.
But it appears you do it so OTHERS will think you're genuine. I've never seen you as honest nor genuine....you're a game playing childish, sh!t disturber....nothing more.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 11:27:45 AM new
awww Linda, go ahead and call her evil.
That would make her so happy! She probably really needs something to put under "E" in her database about you and that was all she had right yet!! LOL!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 11:34:50 AM new
LOL...no way dbl.
We have to remember that she's the one who kept repeating that I didn't know women served in our military.
That's after I've posted serveral times that BOTH my parents served in WWII and my SON was, at that time serving his country. I've stated I'd been on military bases too...ones where my son was stationed.
But leave it to the Queen of Twisting the words of others around....kiara kept insisting I didn't know women served.
Her words to and about me have NEVER been truthful. Like not understanding the difference between good and evil....taking that as me calling HER evil. She doesn't understand what being an honest person is either.
sad, sad, sad....but that's kiara.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 11:46:12 AM newThat's after I've posted serveral times that BOTH my parents served in WWII and my SON was, at that time serving his country. I've stated I'd been on military bases too...ones where my son was stationed..
Yes Linda, I'm sure if you actually walked around a military installation, you have to have missed the women in uniform walking around. But the fact that you said you werent sure if they were putting women out in combat means you dont know there are woman in in military at all??
I wonder if that one is filed under "W for women", or "M for military", or "T" for totally twisted thoughts? :0)
posted on August 27, 2005 11:54:59 AM new
::No fenix That's just not true in the sense that biased reporting will take one area of Iraq and use that for their example. What they rarely print is all those areas that either didn't have ANY of these utilities AT ALL...or very low power. THOSE are the ones we American's don't see the left-leaning MSM reporting.::
Linda - I'm not basing what I said on news reports. I'm basing it on conversations with people that I know from those areas and that still have friends and family there.
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posted on August 27, 2005 11:58:09 AM new
::But you blame us...just like most liberals here.::
Well Linda - it was not the Russians dropping bombs on Iraq that night now was it?
the funny thing is that I don't seem to recall the vehement blame I just said that I would like to see us putting things back as we found them. You are the one that is assigning all of these negative connotations. We blew up a building, we should rebuild it. That's not being anti-american, anti-bush or whatever the anti-ism of the day is. It's simply being realistic.
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posted on August 27, 2005 01:43:46 PM new
I know dbl, that's what I mean. The letter/article I had posted was speaking to the issue of those on the FRONT LINES. At that time, not all branches of our military ALLOWED women to fight on the front lines.
But kiara's way of trying to 'twist' it all up....was to imply I didn't know women were serving in Iraq.
Heck...they served in VN.
Just one more example of her lack of ability to comprehend what she reads.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 01:49:16 PM newLinda - I'm not basing what I said on news reports. I'm basing it on conversations with people that I know from those areas and that still have friends and family there.
Oh....I see....and their opinions, which may be anti-war are more valid to you than our soldiers on the ground who report and speak about what they have done...what they see being done. right....I understand.
Screw the reports by US agencies that report differently than your friends tell you. right....I understand.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 27, 2005 01:56:47 PM newWell Linda - it was not the Russians dropping bombs on Iraq that night now was it?
ha ha ha
the funny thing is that I don't seem to recall the vehement blame I just said that I would like to see us putting things back as we found them.
That's not exactly what you said, fenix. Go back and read your own words.
You are the one that is assigning all of these negative connotations.
No, you are blaming the US for all the bombing/destruction that WE did. No blame for saddam letting the whole place go to h3ll BEFORE we started the bombings....AND while building how many personal palaces?
yea, right
We blew up a building, we should rebuild it. That's not being anti-american, anti-bush or whatever the anti-ism of the day is. It's simply being realistic.
We ARE rebuilding....and money and help from other countries are too. Not the the left here ever wants to acknowledge it. And they DON'T/HAVEN'T. Everytime I post a link to something positive happening like us restoring schools, hospitals, etc. they're ALWAYS been lefties here who go into more badgering/discounting mode about any GOOD NEWS. You're only fooling yourself to deny that FACT. It's here all over each thread with postive news I've EVER posted.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
