outoftheblue
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posted on April 18, 2002 10:55:24 PM new
jimtaxi
It looks like even some registered users don't or won't have access to certain areas of the site. I don't know, at this point, if I'm going to stick around the moo. It's not fun anymore.
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RB
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posted on April 19, 2002 04:54:30 AM new
All AuctionDiner and Bidbay representatives, owners, and sponsors are hereby suspended from Mootropolis.com. They currently violate the User Agreement and with the litigation that is about to take place by Mootropolis.com, they will be considered trepassing on our systems and liability to our community.
In hockey, we call this "turtling". So much for the venue's integrity eh, considering it was Patty who started the AD nonsense in the first place. I figured it was going to get out of hand and she would eventually back down ... just didn't think it would happen this quickly. It's too bad she had to create a whole new set of rules to get out of this mess - folks who lurked there can no longer do so.
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jimtaxi
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posted on April 19, 2002 05:57:40 AM new
And the lurkers must have made a huge percentage of the actual page hits. Much earlier this year Moo was crowing about a large number page hits when there were only a couple dozen active posters. The consensus of opinion was that there had to big a very large number of lurkers that were pumping up the page hit numbers. That lurker factor should now be greatly diminished.
The Bidville flame wars fanned by Cuff & Buzz and catalyst Dim brought a lot of attention and members to the Moo. Buzzoon correctly called that this tabloid attraction was responsible for much of the Moo's early hits and growth and was even encouraged by the moderator. When a site grows rapidly because of tabloid-like forums and threads it's building on shaky ground.
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RB
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posted on April 19, 2002 06:44:20 AM new
I would exactly call dim a catalyst .. rather an instigator!
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jimtaxi
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posted on April 19, 2002 07:48:11 AM new
A very clever instigator. You've done a little instigating of your own and are not without sin.
1) The general public will not be allowed to read all posts by members unless they register with Mootropolis.com and are bound by the User Agreement. They can read pinned topics and polls. That should be enough for them to either want to join Mootropolis.com or not.
Those polls and Motropolis announcents and the only pinned posts there now and they should tend to drive away prospective members rather than attract them.
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jimhhow
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posted on April 19, 2002 08:08:57 AM new
B-U-Z-Z-O-O-N,
M-E-O-W !
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RB
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posted on April 19, 2002 08:21:37 AM new
jim #1 (the taxi) ... right you are!
jim #2 (the other one) ... B-A-R-K !!!
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kodiheglin
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posted on April 19, 2002 01:14:27 PM new
Buzz, Patty didn't make GT piss off his membership.
I believe someone ran over from Mootropolis and told everyone at AD that they could talk smack there and get away with it. Some say it was Trendy, some say it was B&S. It doesn't matter who, it wasn't CowPaddy.
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RB
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posted on April 19, 2002 01:26:53 PM new
Hi Kodi ...
I agree with you on the AD thing, but do you think Patty also "saw the light" with her initial anything goes idea on the other forums also? Why else would she block viewing of *all* forums to registered members only?
IMHO, she has done the same thing as Bidville and shot herself in the foot. Like many others, although I may not have felt the need to post there anymore, it would be nice to at least be able to *see* the responses to threads that I started
She has made her club a bit too exclusive now and I think you'll see the activity take a nosedive. Too bad because there are (were?) lots of good folks posting there.
[ edited by RB on Apr 19, 2002 01:28 PM ]
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kodiheglin
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posted on April 19, 2002 03:33:32 PM new
Hey Buzz 
I will (grudgingly) agree that Patty wasn't always consistently moderating per her TOS already in place when the whole thing started. I think the whole thing kind of snowballed. I for one had no idea how those guys were over there. Kind of stunned everyone at the Moo. And now that they have all pretty much abandoned ship after the lawsuit was filed, I can see why Patty must be ticked off. She was willing to take a stand for these people but like must cowards, they started crap and split before the toilet finished swirling.
I don't see it as anything exclusive. What's the sacrifice to become a user there anyway? You don't have to post, you can read to your hearts content anonymously if you like. I personally feel better now that I don't feel like some lawyer or someone else from over there is sitting there scrutinizing my posts anonymously.
Anyway..
I'm bummed Buzz, I really got to enjoy talking with you and then you split. I wish you'd consider coming back.
Kodi
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barncards1
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posted on April 19, 2002 04:00:56 PM new
Registrant:
DJ WhiteBoy
OneCentMusic
3636 Monroe
Atlanta, Georgia 30324
United States
Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: mootropolis.com
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bidsbids
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posted on April 19, 2002 04:39:29 PM new
I think Mootropolis was great at the beginning but turned bad when the Bored Bidville Band showed up ( exculding Kodi and a few others ) and really turned bad when the BidBay Bombers arrived. [ Sounds like the roller derby? ]
Paddy wanted to be the most lenient moderator in cyberspace and lost control of her site. It took drastic measures to try to rein in the reign of terror. Like a party that has one too many fights, the guests filter out the door one by one, questioning the judgement of the host.
The real bad thing about The Moo was that it is so easy to get caught up in all the posts and threads and never get anything done like listing auctions. That's a compliment.
I visited the OTWA ( On Line Traders Web Allince ) boards http://www.otwa.com/ and there are several helpful boards for auction users. You can view all of the boards without registering, just like Kodi suggested at Moo, except at Moo a person has to register. If you stay away from the flame wars you can learn a lot off stuff about auctions.
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blairwitch
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posted on April 20, 2002 11:17:36 AM new
Bidsbids I agree the moo really has taken a turn for the worse, and hopefully things can calm down there. I am taking a break from there because the constant bickering really gets old fast. Things are running more smoothly here without moderators. Infact these boards should have been moderator free along time ago. I also enjoy reading the otwa boards.
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outoftheblue
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posted on April 20, 2002 01:21:45 PM new
Now the new private forum will be available shortly and I will be announcing the qualifications needed to join, along with several other new forums
Qualifications?
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jimhhow
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posted on April 20, 2002 06:14:27 PM new
Main Entry: qual·i·fi·ca·tion
Pronunciation: "kwä-l&-f&-'kA-sh&n
Function: noun
Date: circa 1544
1 : a restriction in meaning or application : a limiting modification <this statement stands without qualification>
2 a : obsolete : NATURE b : archaic : CHARACTERISTIC
3 a : a quality or skill that fits a person (as for an office) <the applicant with the best qualifications> b : a condition or standard that must be complied with (as for the attainment of a privilege) <a qualification for membership>
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outoftheblue
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posted on April 20, 2002 06:30:58 PM new
Doofus, I meant, what are the qualifications?
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jimhhow
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posted on April 20, 2002 07:00:02 PM new
I don't know, but I would venture a guess that you can not be a paid or otherwise compensated representative of AD or the attorneys involved in the litigation.
But Patty has stated that she will let us know what they are when the forum is ready.
And I am not a doofus!
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bidsbids
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posted on April 20, 2002 08:38:08 PM new
Is it an online auctions discussion board or the Freemasons? The 'Secret Order of the Bovines' board was the forerunner of this new exclusive area of Moo. I think it's a big mistake to have several different levels of membership on any web site.
"Hi, I'm a Level Three Moovian"
"Oh, I'm a Level Five Moovian"
( secret Moo handshake follows )
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bidsbids
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posted on April 20, 2002 08:54:55 PM new
1) The general public will not be allowed to read all posts by members unless they register with Mootropolis.com and are bound by the User Agreement. They can read pinned topics and polls. That should be enough for them to either want to join Mootropolis.com or not.
Those polls and Motropolis announcents and the only pinned posts there now and they should tend to drive away prospective members rather than attract them.
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The pinned topics only include all of Moo's attacks/remarks on AuctionDiner and some vague Moo announcements.
A little self-serving and there is no way any casual user that has never been to Moo to decide if it is worth the hassle of registering.
Maybe an Ed Orlando style $5/yr membership is next?
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jimhhow
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posted on April 20, 2002 09:39:53 PM new
At least it seems to have made your day, Bids.
Besides, once you are registered there, the individual levels are no different than say the groups at Yahoo where they can be closed or restricted to invitation only membership.
[ edited by jimhhow on Apr 20, 2002 09:42 PM ]
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kodiheglin
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posted on April 20, 2002 10:15:52 PM new
Well, I see this conversation is going along politely.
*note heavy sarcasm*
bidsbids, have faith darlin' just keep watching
Jim(HAP): I don't think they were calling you a dufus. Look again..
All of us need to perhaps look inward and ask ourselves what would we be doing if we were in Patty's position? When you are talking with yourself, be brutally honest.(lol)
For us it's all second guessing and it's easy to say we have all the answers, but the truth is..we aren't being sued..she is.
Aloha
Kodi
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bidsbids
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posted on April 20, 2002 10:53:10 PM new
I suppose she's no different from the average online auction site owner. Try to hit it big against very big odds.
I'd never put all of that effort and sweat and tears into such an endeavour that has such a slim chance of ever succeeding, but that's me. There was a stat on baseball players that actually make it to the major leagues and it reminds me of the chances of any auction site making more than a few bucks profit.
At least she's trying.
 boob man?
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bidsbids
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posted on April 20, 2002 11:04:03 PM new
I found the big dipper on the Alaskan flag and then I found a big Alaskan tipper, I think.
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blairwitch
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posted on April 21, 2002 02:02:53 PM new
Alot of the attacks on the moo could have easily be avoided if they installed a simple ignore feature like here. Until they do I am not going back because the petty behavior gets so old so fast. Since the attacks were banned on the bidville forum it has almost stagnated.
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YourDesigns
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posted on April 21, 2002 08:26:14 PM new
BW, the attacks were not banned at the Moo. It stopped when people started watching the freak show called AuctionDiner.com go at it. Made Bidville Forum PALE in comparison, much like the Bidbay War that ensued here at AW all that time ago. To the point that Bidbay was banned here at AW.
I see a pattern here with AD/BB, they plan to get banned everywhere. I assume that OTWA is next.
As for not being able to see the boards, if you don't like Moo or the people there, why do you care?
Also, why do you people care at ALL what happens to Mootropolis.com? Last time I checked it didn't cost you anything, and obviously you can post right here at the wonderful AW.
RB, you of all people shouldn't care. You said goodbye, then I say so long to you and the Moo. Don't look behind, just keep on going.
According to the numbers (and from checking the membership register on the member buttons) only a few people out of the ones registered asked to have their accounts closed. So, that shows that few really took the new UA so skeptically.
Also if you will note all the activity here at the Other Online Auctions, the top THREE subjects are Moo, AC, and Georgie. So if AW crew is so great, why don't you talk about something else, since Moo is "doomed" and you folks "don't like Moo"?
Funny that GT comes along attacks a site, and then you guys go after the victim. Almost sounds like you folks support GT, Bidbay, and AuctionDiner, the very evil that AuctionWatch had to ban.
Interesting.
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jimhhow
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posted on April 21, 2002 08:33:43 PM new
"Alot of the attacks on the moo could have easily be avoided if they installed a simple ignore feature like here. Until they do I am not going back because the petty behavior gets so old so fast.
GREAT, then there is no need for an ignore button there!
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RB
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posted on April 22, 2002 06:25:52 AM new
a fait accompli
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deichen
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posted on April 22, 2002 11:29:51 AM new
Great post, Yourdesigns!
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bidsbids
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posted on April 22, 2002 12:18:29 PM new
I'll give you a dollar litle girl if you'd go away and stay away.
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deichen
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posted on April 22, 2002 01:28:03 PM new
Bidsbids:
I'll give you a dollar litle girl if you'd go away and stay away.
Are you talking to me?
If you are....F*** off!
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