eventer
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posted on September 11, 2000 08:47:39 AM new
Oh, heck...add me to the list of people who need to know...I feel like I've just bought my first copy of the National Inquirer.
[email protected]
Got to say..darned clever idea!
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rackmyer
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posted on September 11, 2000 08:58:09 AM new
Rather interesting what a little feedback surfing led me too. An entire DUTCH auction of similar "stuff" from a bidder that appears to be related. DEFINATE shilling in progress for all zeros bidding on this dutch auction. Many of you super Sleuths are far better at this than I am so I am sure others have found this connection.
Pretty offensive threat in the body of this description too. Even has an ID poking fun at SafeHarbor.
-Shari
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richel
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posted on September 11, 2000 09:02:01 AM new
puhlease send me the seller's i.d. i'm dying, too! [email protected]
 uh huh. that's what i thought!
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raygomez
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posted on September 11, 2000 09:09:10 AM new
Wow!
I search for "nothing" on completed auctions (by bid price ascending), and this is amazing.
There are dozens of nothing for sale, and at a low price to boot!
What a great way to build feedback, so folks will know how trustworthy you are.
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shaani
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posted on September 11, 2000 09:12:11 AM new
There is no way that I can e-mail this auction to everyone that asks though I would like everyone to know about this.
Seriously, this item can continue to sell for one cent on private auctions and to people who choose to make their feedback private. There will be no exchange of goods (nothing!) and no shipping fees. After doing this for 60 days couldn't they build up a lot of feedback and make their feedback public again? By then the item #'s have dropped out of the database so who is to know what really took place?
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raygomez
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posted on September 11, 2000 09:22:50 AM new
This is clearly a fraud in the making . . .
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eventer
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posted on September 11, 2000 09:26:07 AM new
shaani & shari,
THANKS! What a howl. Reading their feedback is a scream...
Talk about much ado about "NOTHING. 
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cdprogram
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posted on September 11, 2000 09:46:07 AM new
Please, please, please let me know where I can find it 
[email protected]
Thank you.
Pame.
[ edited by cdprogram on Sep 11, 2000 09:57 AM ]
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tonito
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posted on September 11, 2000 09:50:41 AM new
Someone...anyone... please email me the info
to check the feedback you are talking about!
[email protected]
[ edited by tonito on Sep 11, 2000 09:58 AM ]
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srfnfshn
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posted on September 11, 2000 10:22:33 AM new
Someone please email me as [email protected]
I'm dying to find out which one of the "nothings" you are talking about!
thanks
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sweil
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posted on September 11, 2000 10:30:59 AM new
ok, ya got me too! Please email me the info at [email protected].
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Joanne
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posted on September 11, 2000 10:35:25 AM new
I really hope that one or more of you has sent the information on these auctions to Safeharbor. I agree, this sounds like major fraud in the making... setting themselves up with high feedback in preparation for a scam.
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andr0id
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posted on September 11, 2000 10:38:23 AM new
I don't see any Advantage at All to saying Nothing. Maybe I'm dense.
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shaani
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posted on September 11, 2000 10:45:29 AM new
If I e-mail each and everyone and let them know the auction # the moderators will step in and lock this thread and I have no intention of inviting this little weenie over for a discussion. I doubt that his career at ebay under his present ID will be that much longer.
I am sure that this scam has been around for a long time and may have even been discussed here once before. Perhaps ebay is quite aware of it also. If you sold 500 of nothing on a dutch auction you could build feedback pretty fast. I have worked very hard for a couple of years building my feedback and deals like this pi** me off bigtime. I want other users to be aware of this so I don't want this thread locked.
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cheeses
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posted on September 11, 2000 10:51:24 AM new
To see this type of stuff:
1 - Go to "completed auction search"
2 - enter "nothing"
3 - Sort by "bid price", ascending.
HTH
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cdprogram
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posted on September 11, 2000 10:52:05 AM new
Shanni please email me, so I can have an idea what exactly we are talking about
[email protected]
Pame.
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helnjoe
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posted on September 11, 2000 10:52:59 AM new
What a can of worms! Can you stand to e-mail one more person? [email protected]
[ edited by helnjoe on Sep 11, 2000 10:54 AM ]
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cheeses
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posted on September 11, 2000 10:53:52 AM new
Here is the ebay thread on the subject:
http://remarq.ebay.com/ebay/transcript.asp?g=discuss%2Eebay%2Efeedback&tn=21122&sh=fe44a5c8e89a4320&idx=-1
There appears to be a "ring" of 16 users getting positive feedback very quickly for "nothing"!
[ edited by cheeses on Sep 11, 2000 10:55 AM ]
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shaani
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posted on September 11, 2000 11:10:11 AM new
Just so everyone knows, I am not the person who started that thread.
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sweil
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posted on September 11, 2000 11:26:44 AM new
Okay, I see it now. Looked at some of those other auctions and found the feedback left for them interesting. One person ran over 10 auctions all on the same day through the australian site so they didn't pay listing fees. Auction only ran for an hour. Feedback was let showing item was delivered within an hour after that. Talk about a groupl of scam artists in the making. I think I am going to write safeharbor myself. Who knows, maybe I will actually get a response that isn't canned for once.
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yuper592
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posted on September 11, 2000 03:18:48 PM new
okay, I'm on page two of my completed search and so far all I can find is several sellers that all have exactly 15 positive feedback, and they are Australian. What page is this seller with all the funny feedback on? Hints anyone?
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tonito
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posted on September 11, 2000 04:23:15 PM new
[ edited by tonito on Sep 11, 2000 04:25 PM ]
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figmente
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posted on September 11, 2000 05:38:21 PM new
Much Ado About Nothing?
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lotsafuzz
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posted on September 11, 2000 05:41:53 PM new
Ok, Im weak!! Someone email me, please!
[email protected]
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shaani
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posted on September 12, 2000 07:34:52 AM new
Just an update here. The seller that I mentioned at the beginning of this is now NARU and the vulgar feedback comments that he left have been removed.
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grunter
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posted on September 12, 2000 11:37:35 AM new
Um, could someone email me and tell me precisely what this whole thread is about?
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shaani
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posted on September 13, 2000 03:47:36 PM new
Another update to say thay many of the sellers listing dutch auctions for "nothing" for 1 cent through the Australian site just so they could gain fast feedback are now NARU also.
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sweil
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posted on September 13, 2000 06:43:07 PM new
Just got a reply from safeharbor. With more information they have now suspended 16 different user ids. I think someone somewhere is very unhappy right now.
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berkeleybrowndog
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posted on September 13, 2000 07:16:10 PM new
Most of those have been pulled, but there are still a few out there... just bored, i suppose?
So, how do you check to see what feedback the seller has left for others?
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iwannabuy
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posted on September 13, 2000 07:49:39 PM new
email it to me too.
[email protected]
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