You're so right. This kind of thing happens everyday in some parts of the world and we, at times, act like we're the only ones it ever happened to. Compared to other countries, we've gotten off easy.
And, LOL, desquirrel. I have a friend who lives in London and they are more laid back and apologetic than we are.
posted on July 7, 2005 06:09:03 PM newMaybe kiara would like to give HER thoughts/opinions on just how the AQ terrorists got into the UK. Did they not have to meet immigration quotes/investigations. Does she think they were already there, or were they newly arrived and approved citizens.
The answer to that is the same as how the terrorists entered the US. Remember it was our government that approved letting them into our country.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on July 7, 2005 06:12:07 PM new
And what is so low about thinking somebody is on vacation when they posted they were goin on vacation, peepie-pooh?
Classic said he was going on vacation. He's gone. No posting. Maggie said she was leaving on a trip and she wasnt posting. Go read the EO peepa - Cheryl said she was going on vacation. I happened to think it was hooked up with the 4th weekend. She said she was leaving. Then she said she was not posting here anymore but pops out of the blue to show her crawling cockroach mentality to Linda. I think YOU've got a few things to learn about taste and what is low-class, there peepa.
posted on July 7, 2005 06:14:03 PM new
Given the right contacts or the determination to do so, anyone can get into any country they want. There are no physical walls. Illegals enter this country every day. How did Jews escape Germany during WWII right under the noses of the Germans? Determination, will and contacts. No one will ever be 100% safe from terrorists. Take out bin Laden and there will be someone there to take his place. Who's to say that some America born citizens won't someday become terrorists? You can't speculate whether these people were already in the country or if they were recently "approved" to be there.
dbl
I didn't take offense to your post. I knew what you meant because I know you post on the EO as well. I don't think bigpeepa spends a lot of time there or perhaps he missed the post where I said I was going on vacation.
Cheryl
[ edited by cblev65252 on Jul 7, 2005 06:16 PM ]
posted on July 7, 2005 06:15:01 PM new
VERY good, desquirrel, VERY good....and oh so accurate too.
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Now cheryl, don't go telling lies to parklane. And, because I believe the way I do, I'm a socialist? Sorry, parklane, but Linda asked for it. She is the one making accusations based on beliefs. Yet, she doesn't see herself as a bigot.
No, because you actually campaigned for a progressive/socialist. And he admits it....why can't you? And no, I don't see myself as a bigot. But I see you and many on the left as only being able to call people names when they don't agree with them.
And here I thought that liberals were supposed to be the party who claims they're so tolerant of others. LOL....boy what a laugh that is. It's only too obvious that isn't the case with the liberals here.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on July 7, 2005 06:18:20 PM newSo, how many neocons pigs like Linda will say, "well at least its not on American soil."
Well: I guess I'm a neocon pig like linda,I'm glad it didn't happen on American soil.
Just the like the right....Don't want terrorism here in the states, but would rather see another country being bombed.
What would you have thought/said if you heard a European say, I am glad no terrorist flew planes to our buildings when they say the tragedy on here on 9/11.
I dont you would have been to happy if a European said what you just said shortly after 9/11.
Let's see we have had the terrorists attack planes, trains and buses. What's next, power plants, water supplies? If you think they will keep using the same methods, you are wrong. They will find a new way and in a new country. We will be attacked again, it is just a materr of time.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on July 7, 2005 06:24:56 PM newI think the British should adopt a three pronged response:
1) I am waiting for Tony Blair to find away to blame this on Saddam
2) Say Saddam has WMD
3) Invade the country close to the country that contains the people reponsible for the attacks.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on July 7, 2005 06:29:23 PM new
dblfugger9, YOU HAD A BIG CHANGE IN TONE AFTER MY POST ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL QUESTIONS. I am glad to see that change. BTW Linda_K and people like her are cockroaches in my book also.
posted on July 7, 2005 06:30:47 PM new
Hey Logan:
If your going to Quote me,why not use the whole Quote?
Not just part.
Your as Simple minded as your friends!
posted on July 7, 2005 06:32:05 PM new
KD as I was reading through the posts after I enjoyed supper with my daughter I came across these words "will just have to 'get over it', so to speak" spoken by the none other Kiara. Now you tell me I say those words and yes I do but guess what your buddy says them also. So get over it!!!!!!!!
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posted on July 7, 2005 06:32:49 PM new
I know you're hung up on this "Osama didn't live in Baghdad" thing, so just as a reminder:
The terrorists and any person place or thing that supplies assistance to them.
And PLEASE don't go to the "Iraq didn't support Al Queda" mode either. Any idiot knows Iraq has supplied and trained almost every radical organization on the planet including the IRA and renegade groups of the Girl Scouts of America. And it also doesn't matter if they were 2nd or 3rd on the all-time list.
posted on July 7, 2005 06:32:58 PM new
Okay then logansdad.....let's hear your brilliant solution as to what you see our country doing to avoid another 9-11 attack.
IF we withdraw from Iraq do you REALLY believe that will end the terrorist desire to attack us again?
In each attack the terrorists have made on all the different countries....they've made it VERY CLEAR that who they really want is the US. They did so when they attacked Bali, Spain, now the UK and a couple other places that I can't recall the names of. And in each and every attack....they told those countries they were attacking their innocent citizens BECAUSE of their support for the US.
So...what then. Should we just sit back and wait for the BIG one? Or should we continue to do the best we can to destroy them? Would you support more Federal funding, on a HUGE scale, for better intelligence...more CIA people to put towards this goal? And if so, then once we have the information we will get....what do we do with them then? Coddle them? Beg their forgiveness?
This is WAR. The left needs to stop rooting for and excusing the behavior of the terrorists/our enemies.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on July 7, 2005 06:36:17 PM new
I know you're hung up on this "Osama didn't live in Baghdad" thing, so just as a reminder:
The terrorists and any person place or thing that supplies assistance to them.
And PLEASE don't go to the "Iraq didn't support Al Queda" mode either.
So does that mean we can call Reagan and Rumsfeld terrorists. It was Regaen and Rumsfeld that gave Saddam US weapons and helicopters to fight their wars.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on July 7, 2005 06:39:13 PM newdblfugger9, YOU HAD A BIG CHANGE IN TONE AFTER MY POST ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL QUESTIONS. I am glad to see that change.
ROFLMHO.....now THAT was a good one. Right....because ol' peepa thinks so highly of himself - like anyone actually listens to him and would change the error of their ways that's just too funny.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on July 7, 2005 06:39:31 PM new
So you think this person would have made a better president? Talk about a failed leader what do you call him?
Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer.
Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution.
Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953.
That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed,
also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President
... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same,
or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
posted on July 7, 2005 06:40:58 PM new
Big change in tone? You cant 'hear' my tone, peepa! But maybe you can tone this in:
I think you are a big fat old bald jerky antique guy who thinks he has the slightest clue about politics when he doesnt.
And cheryl, I didnt think you would take offense to it... as I did think you said you were going on vacation and thought it was with the 4th week.... But I will tell you something, if you dont mind hearing it. You know, God and prayers are not something you can flip on when you need them, and flip off when you dont...so maybe instead of protesting Linda's ideas with a cockroach and actively trying to offend somebody else, you might want to get down on your knees yourself and thank God for the good will he has provided you and your family. God is a jealous God and he wont be mocked. - Just something for you to think about there. Take it or leave it.
posted on July 7, 2005 06:42:05 PM new
Stickboy dad,
you better go rescue your son. I dont think he is doing to well at the moment
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
[ edited by logansdad on Jul 7, 2005 06:43 PM ]
posted on July 7, 2005 06:50:50 PM newIF we withdraw from Iraq do you REALLY believe that will end the terrorist desire to attack us again?
No, but staying there is not helping the situation now is it.
let's hear your brilliant solution as to what you see our country doing to avoid another 9-11 attack
Well instead of just rushing into every Middle East country and telling every country they support terrorists and are the axis of evil....Don't you think it would be wise to see why the terrorists hate the US and what we stand for first. Did you ever stop and think we our actions/responses are feeding right into what they want and are only fueling their hatred. Our actions are driving their cause. They are using are responses to recruit more people into their terrorist groups.
This is WAR. The left needs to stop rooting for and excusing the behavior of the terrorists/our enemies.
So is the "War on Drugs". Are we winning that war, Linda. How much has the US speant fighting that war over the past 20 years?
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on July 7, 2005 07:23:59 PM new
Thank you for answering.
But it's just as I thought....another leftie who thinks WE need to understand them.
We already do understand them, logansdad....and some of us even understand why they don't like us. All one has to do is read binladens own words....transcripts from his any tapes. There you will find your mystery. It's very clear.
I cannot believe how any of you, especially you logansdad, can support understanding why they'd be ever so willing to slit your throat in a nano-second....only because of your lifestyle...slit others only because of their beliefs...slit others because they don't like our defense of Israell...slit others because we don't believe in their God.
Just don't understand why the left is so slow at understanding their own words about how they will destroy us.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on July 7, 2005 07:37:15 PM new
Hey Linda_K, you didn't copy and paste the rest of my reply to dblfugger9.
It said "BTW Linda_K and people like her are cockroaches in my book also".
Hey dblfugger9 don't preach to me, I don't listen to words from FALSE PROPHETS like you with a one track mindset.
So you and Linda_K can say anything you want about me. Your words don't change the fact that the Iraq War was stated from lies by your failed leaders George Bush and Dick Cheney.
Americans will begin to change this mess by getting rid of the wackos in the 2006 elections.
posted on July 7, 2005 07:44:03 PM new
The democrats better start moving fast as they have only a year to tell us what their agenda is. Remember it is 2005 and on the first tuesday in November 2006 they had better have their act together. Well Howard Dean better have his act together.
Maybe you have heard something from the democratic party but I see nothing in the news about who is running and who isn't.
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Interesting website..Since I don't know how to post a graph I am posting the whole article but, at the bottom is a graph on who is running for the senate in 2006. Now bigpeepa how many democrats do you think will win. To level your playing field...
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posted on July 7, 2005 08:26:08 PM new
yes kraft, I am one of his disciples and even within all my flesh and human faults, I am quite uniquely gifted and blessed by God to say things that is not even of my own words or ideas to say. I know that much.
And if the spirit moves me, I'll tell anybody that is soliticing prayers to get on your knees yourself first before you ask others to intervene for you. Others who may even be ~~gasp!! republicans, or shall I say cockroaches?
posted on July 7, 2005 08:51:25 PM new
Hell, Libra any of us, with perhaps the exception of Linda would make a better President than what we have now. It doesn't take much of a genius to figure that one out.
I would much rather have a true conservative president like Reagan than a fascist one like Bush. At least Reagan would have had the balls to finish the job in Afghanistan making sure the Taliban were gone and Bin Laden dead.
[ edited by rustygumbo on Jul 7, 2005 08:53 PM ]
posted on July 7, 2005 09:14:20 PM new
But Rusty Reagan wasn't running for President it was Kerry and Bush. Now with the Kerry bio would you still want him for president? Why do you think he lost? Because everyone loved Bush, wrong most hated Kerry.
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posted on July 7, 2005 11:23:14 PM new
It sure puts paid to that incredibly stupid kool-aid saying that the neocons love
--If we don't fight them there we'll have to fight them here---
The British are fighting THERE and still got it in their front yard!
Rusty Libra63 does not understand the concept of an idea , having never had one.
Ah, but I didn't say "republicans" were cockroaches and neither did bigpeepa. I reserved that for one particular poster. And just because that poster happens to be a republican so far to the right that she's teetering off the edge, doesn't mean bigpeepa or I think all republicans are cockroaches. That's the problem here. You guys take the posts a step or two further than the OP originally intended. There are some republicans that I think are okay. In fact, even you (and on occasion, Libra and the missing in action twelve) have said a thing or two on the board that I have agreed with. One basket full of bad apples doesn't spoil the entire orchard.
Cheryl
[ edited by cblev65252 on Jul 8, 2005 05:11 AM ]
posted on July 8, 2005 06:28:17 AM new
Rustygumbo makes the following observations:
Referring to Bush and Blair:
It sickens me that they are irresponsible
Again on Bush and Blair:
What really ticks me off is the arrogance of Blair and Bush over protecting their citizens
On a Vendio poster:
It sickens me that they are irresponsible
I have to admit that I'm curious. In a thread about horrible terrorist bombings resulting in many deaths and injuries I see that Rusty is "sickened" and "ticked off" when it comes to Bush and Blair; and then "sickened" again when it comes to something posted by a message board poster. I'm wondering where the terrorists who planted the bombs rate on this "sickened" scale.
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And no, I don't see myself as a bigot. But I see you and many on the left as only being able to call people names when they don't agree with them.
as I did think you said you were going on vacation and thought it was with the 4th week.... But I will tell you something, if you dont mind hearing it. You know, God and prayers are not something you can flip on when you need them, and flip off when you dont...so maybe instead of protesting Linda's ideas with a cockroach and actively trying to offend somebody else, you might want to get down on your knees yourself and thank God for the good will he has provided you and your family. God is a jealous God and he wont be mocked. - Just something for you to think about there. Take it or leave it. 