etexbill
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posted on July 20, 2005 07:19:35 PM new
Helen, if you weren't so pitiful, you would be hilarious.
But that's your problem.
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Helenjw
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posted on July 20, 2005 07:55:46 PM new
You're dazzling me with your charm and erudition which is only exceeded by the length of your nose. Poke it somewhere else.
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maggiemuggins
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posted on July 20, 2005 08:02:31 PM new
There once was a farmer, who took a young miss. In back of the barn where he gave her a lecture on horses and chickens and eggs...
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mingotree
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posted on July 20, 2005 11:54:16 PM new
Maggie, what?
BTW, Roberts is a close personal friend of Rehnquist, mystery solved.
[ edited by mingotree on Jul 21, 2005 12:06 AM ]
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cblev65252
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posted on July 21, 2005 05:04:53 AM new
scrabblegod
For two Presidential elections and numerous Senate and House elections, the People have stated they are tired of the Left.
I think it's now the other way around or don't you pay attention to what people are saying? The problem has been and will continue to be the lack of moderates. Everyone is either way too far to the right or way too far to the left. A whole group of people have been left out and forced to choose a side they wouldn't normally choose. I'm not normally as far to the left as I appear. I'm one of those with no choice. I refuse to go as far to the right as this administration is. They'll never get me there. Never, I tell you. Never.
Cheryl
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maggiemuggins
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posted on July 21, 2005 08:39:38 AM new
Mingo Name that tune...
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etexbill
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posted on July 21, 2005 09:28:52 AM new
"You're dazzling me with your charm and erudition which is only exceeded by the length of your nose. Poke it somewhere else."
Helen, I wouldn't poke you with someone else's nose.
Have a good day now, you hear!!
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mingotree
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posted on July 21, 2005 10:22:06 AM new
I almost puked at the picture of Robert's wife, a Jackie O wannabee. Had on almost the same suit Jackie had on the day Kennedy was shot and and even had little "John-john" in a sports coat and short pants. This STRONG ADVOCATE FOR Taking away a woman's right to her own body will certainly have an effect on this judge.
I'm afraid the battle for women's rights will flare up anew with this radical justice.
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SCRABBLEGOD
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posted on July 21, 2005 10:27:20 AM new
cblev65252
I agree that both sides are to far in either direction.
Unfortunately, both sides have to pander to the extremes to get in office.
I would like to see a viable middle of the road party with a slight conservative bent, but given the current choices, I have to go with the lesser of two evils.
Regardless of his current favor-ability ratings (influenced by current attitudes towards current events) which seem to bounce around 50%, Bush during in his election, he would appoint a conservative and I believe the people who elected him expect him to keep to his and their ideals.
Gene
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Helenjw
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posted on July 21, 2005 10:52:15 AM new
I believe that the American people would prefer to have a supreme court judge who is ideologically independent and one that has respect for precedents such as Roe v. Wade. Roberts is a wealthy corporate lawyer with interests in the conservative agenda of the Republican party.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 21, 2005 12:04:17 PM new
Seems like his confirmation will be a sure thing from what I have been reading.
But at the least he should get an up or down vote.
Why are you worried about women's rights mingotree? afraid you might actually be brought back to 50-50 status.
Oh wait you're the one who believes the myth. Nevermind.
Ron
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cblev65252
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posted on July 21, 2005 12:41:12 PM new
And, what myth would that be, Ron? Suppose you enlighten all of us on this board that have faced discrimination based on our sex or those who make less than a man performing the same job. Or maybe you can inform those women who have husbands that refuse to allow them to work or play outside the home. I'm sure they're all interested in your opinion on the matter.
Cheryl
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maggiemuggins
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posted on July 21, 2005 12:57:55 PM new
Cheryl.. Ron must be a good fisherman, he sure knows how to troll, doesn't he.. LOL
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 21, 2005 01:40:46 PM new
Lower wages for a woman is a myth, it has been debunked many times.
As I have said before, when "statistics" come out that women are paid less, it is because they have included jobs women either don't work at or are very few.
As someone pointed out earlier, someone women take time off for rearing of children, then come back into the job force.
I can give an example where a woman makes less than a man, but the man has 5 years experience doing the job and the woman has one? Why should she be making the same?
Oh maggie coming from a true caster herself that is a compliment. Thanks
edtied to add: Or maybe you can inform those women who have husbands that refuse to allow them to work or play outside the home. Inform them of what? How great a husband they must have, that they can stay home.
Ron
[ edited by WashingtoneBayer on Jul 21, 2005 01:43 PM ]
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etexbill
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posted on July 21, 2005 02:32:10 PM new
From the Washington Post:
"By the end of the day, though, Democrats held out little prospect of a filibuster.
"Everybody ought to cool their jets on this and let the process work," said Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.), a Democratic member of the group. "Going in, it looks good" for Roberts, he said."
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Helenjw
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posted on July 21, 2005 04:14:43 PM new
Of course it looks good but that's no excuse to give up this opportunity to state the opposition to Roberts and let the American people know more about this "nice guy".. If Democrats lie down and let the rove machine bury them so easily, the next nominee will be even more radical and conservative than Roberts.
It's interesting to see that focus on Roberts didn't bury the Rove scandal as expected.
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etexbill
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posted on July 21, 2005 04:23:24 PM new
Quote : "If Democrats lie down and let the rove machine bury them so easily, the next nominee will be even more radical and conservative than Roberts."
Probably so, things just ain't goin' your way are they Helen?!
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 21, 2005 04:26 PM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on July 21, 2005 04:58:04 PM new
My way is looking a hell of a lot better at this point than your way, etex. Your president has lost a war, lost the respect of most of the American people and the world and his administration is now embroiled in yet another scandal. I don't think that gaining one Supreme Court Justice will matter that much in the total scheme of things.
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etexbill
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posted on July 21, 2005 05:04:25 PM new
As you know, Helen, I am referring to your thoughts on Roberts, which is the subject of this thread.
And don't be surprised if the president gets to pick a couple more Justices. I don't think Rehnquist will be there much longer.
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mingotree
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posted on July 21, 2005 06:08:49 PM new
Maggie, you're right about Ron trolling, he's done it before, I sang him the song, and he just wants to start an argument. Nobody could be that dumb when it comes to women's rights , not even Ron.
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maggiemuggins
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posted on July 21, 2005 06:39:55 PM new
Oh.. I don't know Mingo.. there are plenty out there that still view Women as less than equal... the ones who are insecure with their own masculinity. But.. I'd rather think of Ron as a master troller than one of those who really believe women are second class citizens..
By the way.. how come you never named that tune? To young to recognize it?
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mingotree
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posted on July 21, 2005 11:38:57 PM new
Maggie! I'm so young! NOT! I'm so old I helped write the Star Spangled Banner but I can't place your tune ????
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mingotree
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posted on July 22, 2005 05:31:37 AM new
Roberts nomination may eventually be a good thing for women's rights......so many women have been complacent in the last few years and complacency is the devil's( and the Republicans) playground.
Maybe when women's right are threatened again it will galvanize women, wake a few up, keep them fighting and vigilant!
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 22, 2005 06:55:51 AM new
And here I thought you two didn't believe in myths.
Women rights? You mean the ones that automatically place the man in trouble ala Cheryl's brother? Are those the rights you are so proud of?
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on July 22, 2005 07:04:14 AM new
Sorry, Ron, won't work.
This story sounds like it has nothing much to do with women's rights .
And you sound like a person who doesn't give a damn about any woman's rights but sure like to whine about perceived unfairness to men......well, whine away
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Linda_K
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posted on July 22, 2005 07:18:48 AM new
helen said: I believe that the American people would prefer to have a supreme court judge who is ideologically independent and one that has respect for precedents such as Roe v. Wade.
Translated to the truth....she would like the SC judge to hold the same ideological positions SHE does.
Roberts is a wealthy corporate lawyer with interests in the conservative agenda of the Republican party.
Robert's gave up a HUGE salary when he accepted his seat in the district appeals court....you're fooling no one.
The only way helen and her ilk would be happy is to see a judge with the mind set of Pelosi appointed.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Jul 22, 2005 07:21 AM ]
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logansdad
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posted on July 22, 2005 08:37:26 AM new
Translated to the truth....she would like the SC judge to hold the same ideological positions SHE does.
That is why Linda is jumping for joy. Because Roberts has the same political views that Linda does.
It goes both ways Linda.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
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Linda_K
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posted on July 22, 2005 08:51:48 AM new
okay logan....why don't you or helen provide proof of Robert's actually SAYING HIMSELF that he wouldn't support roe vs wade. My bet is that you CAN'T, because he hasn't said any such thing. Again, the hard core lefties like you and helen present the issues other than they really are.....twist them all around.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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Linda_K
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posted on July 22, 2005 09:36:06 AM new
Since I'm well aware that neither helen, MT/CF, logansdad will be providing any proof to my challenge....for those who aren't aware of what Robert's ACTUALLY said, himself....here is a quote.
"Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land...there's nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent."
Thus spoke Judge John Roberts in his confirmation hearing before the United States Senate Judiciary Committee in 2003.
But....once again the hard-core lefties here want to make it sound oh-so-different than it really is. tyical....they TWIST everything - they have no honor.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 22, 2005 10:19:11 AM new
I'm whining? LOL Who was it that brought up women's rights in this thread and their mis-preception that they are going to be eroded?
Yeah I thought so.
Ron
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