tomuchwork
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posted on October 3, 2000 12:57:29 PM new
Yes I am a CANADIAN and yes I sell on eBay and YES AM I TICKED OFF AT CANADA POST!!! Did I do something about it ????? YES!!!!!!!! Here's what happened...CANADIANS CALL CANADA POST AT: 416-204-4441 AND LODGE YOU COMPLAINT!! Make sure you "press 1"...then..."press 6"then...."press 3"...etc., etc.,five minutes later you will be graced with another recorded message telling you "your phone call MAY be "MONITORED & TAPED for STAFF TRAINING PURPOSES". Excuse Me! What Country is this anyway? DON'T TAPE MY CALL!! You didn't ask my permission! Anyway, finally found a human being & when I told her I wanted to talk to them "without" my call being "taped & monitored" I was told she would have to get a "SUPERVISOR" - "OH Sorry!" they are all in a meeting! Hey - thanks! Is this what I'm paying all that money for? Fast, efficient sericve! Thank you Canada Post! Yes I told them I AM MAD! You get a "Supervisor" to call me back and tell me how you can justify a increase of this magnitude!! I can hardly wait for the call! I'll post when I hear the ***ANSWER***. I already know the ***ANSWER*** it's called a ****MONOPOLY!!!!**** it's called ****GREED!!!**** What other options do we Canadaians have??? The answer is NONE!! And that is why they can %$#**! us whenever THEY FEEL LIKE IT! I ask every Canadian to pick up their phone and CALL AND COMPLAIN AND ASK FOR ANSWERS!!!!!!!!!!!! AND DEMAND THEY LOWER THESE BLOODSUCKING GREEDY SMALL BUSINESS MAN/WOMAN KILLING PRICE HIKES! Thanks for listening...stay tuned! Mad & Not Alone!
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upriver
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posted on October 3, 2000 01:05:03 PM new
celebrityskin:
That is true about paying more, plus of course the machine rental & other charges, but with the large number of auctions I do, the trade-off of not spending well over 2 hours a week standing waiting in lines is well worth it. It was something that I moved to about 2 years back, at a point when my auctions were increasing from about 50 a month to my current larger numbers. I just found that being stalled in long lines while the clerks did one slow package at a time was too painful, and as most of the post offices here are now de-centralized into these little store operations, the guilt factor of holding up other customers was kind of biting me on the back of the neck, too.
Anyway, this is somewhat more costly, but definitely to me worth it, due to the extra time I have for other things, and the less stress the better.
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equestrian
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posted on October 3, 2000 04:31:06 PM new
After picking up the new rate brochure from Canada Post today I am becoming more convinced that it might be worth it for me to take my larger items across the border to ship.
I am lucky to live about 15 minutes from the border and in the months leading up to Christmas I seem to make a trip across the line about once a week so it would not be a problem to take a few packages along. My question is this: What are the procedures for taking items across the line to ship? Have any of you done this and what has your experience been?
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cdnbooks
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posted on October 3, 2000 06:47:05 PM new
Zazzie, great to see you.
I guess summer lasts a lot longer in BC! Last I checked it's Thanksgiving this weekend. 
Red-deer
Hope you have lots of your favorite beverage.
Bill
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eastwest
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posted on October 3, 2000 07:09:32 PM new
I was wrong
[ edited by eastwest on Oct 4, 2000 08:19 AM ]
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upriver
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posted on October 3, 2000 07:29:24 PM new
eastwest:
Please tell us what specific rate code or account type/designation you are using.
I would love to learn more about this, as I have never heard of that before. I was unaware that this was available to the regular type of Canada Post business customer.
Could you please provide some more specific information on what you are using that entitles you to this preferential rate?
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oldapostle
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posted on October 3, 2000 07:32:39 PM new
Runaroundsue have you got any old singer
sewing machine bottoms.
I just need the bottoms.
Please don't ship them Canada Post.
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eastwest
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posted on October 3, 2000 07:48:04 PM new
I was wrong
[ edited by eastwest on Oct 4, 2000 08:20 AM ]
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reddeer
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posted on October 3, 2000 08:49:53 PM new
What a load of B.S.
First off, the clerks WILL check, & unless they are completely brain dead, it's rather obvious that an item that weighs 1/2 KG, and one that weighs 6 KG shouldn't have the same code.
Secondly, Canada Post will indeed insure items going to the U.S., how long have you been in business?
Thirdly, if, or more like "when" Canada Post catches up with you, I hope you can finance the whopper of the bill that's headed your way.
And last but not least, I rather doubt Canada Post can get *anything* to a customer in the U.S. in 3 days.
[ edited by reddeer on Oct 3, 2000 08:55 PM ]
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eastwest
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posted on October 3, 2000 10:23:01 PM new
I was wrong
[ edited by eastwest on Oct 4, 2000 08:21 AM ]
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reddeer
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posted on October 3, 2000 10:49:04 PM new
Oh brother, here we go again.
First off, any item shipped to the U.S. over 1 KG *can* be insured for both loss & damage [certain restrictions apply] and I don't need to talk to a Postal rep, or look in a book, but I imagine I've been shipping to the U.S. a tad bit longer than you.
You seem to be stuck in the Small Packet mindset? Big difference in the shipping rules & regs. I'm sure your rep can clear up any confusion you have between the two.
Funny story, my brother in law used to *think* he could scam Revenue Canada with all his bogus receipts, and he did for years.
Then one day BIG brother came knocking at his door. Take a wild guess what happened?
Feel free to run your business any way you want, but please don't suggest your dishonest & illegal practices to the rest of the online community.
Some sellers on these boards are new to online selling & might not realize just how much trouble they could get in if they followed your advice.
Also, please try to ease up on your CAPS key, I can read you comments just fine without the extra size.
edited KG size, getting sleepy eyed ...
[ edited by reddeer on Oct 3, 2000 10:59 PM ]
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Zazzie
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posted on October 3, 2000 10:49:44 PM new
You can not insure small packages to the USA (under 1 kilo) unless you register it. But if it is over 1 kilo. It costs $1.00 per $100 insurance---if you send it by Air Mail you get the 1st $100.00 included in the price of postage.
I have a friend who HAD an account with Canada Post and was doing what Eastwest is doing...lying about weight on the maniefest. He got caught in a postal audit--got his account pulled and levied a HUGE fine.
Cdnbooks--almost time to retire the gin and tonics and look for a more warming beverage.
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reddeer
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posted on October 3, 2000 10:57:43 PM new
Zazzie ..... Thanks so much for posting that tid bit. I'm sure your friend must have lived in a small town, these things never happen in the BIG city. 
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shaani
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posted on October 3, 2000 11:02:40 PM new
Edited because I now see that eastwest has admitted that he is wrong. And I don't want any new seller to start doing what eastwest claims he has been doing.
[ edited by shaani on Oct 4, 2000 01:29 PM ]
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Zazzie
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posted on October 3, 2000 11:02:41 PM new
Yeah Right!! But for Eastwest and his feeling of security in his scam---it was someone in Vancouver.
and for the fans----HOCKEY SEASON is HERE !!
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reddeer
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posted on October 3, 2000 11:05:37 PM new
Oh My, a fellow Vancouverite. I bet that edit feature is about to get used .......
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Zazzie
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posted on October 3, 2000 11:06:53 PM new
The reason why Canada Post Accounts holders feel they can scam Canada Post---is that the $$ amount of postage is NOT on sticker they put on the package--and they way they get caught is that Canada Post will flag an account at random or because the suspect fraud and start weighing the packages belonging to the account---and then checking it against the manifest when it is submitted at the end of the month.
The customer never sees the actual cost of postage with this method
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reddeer
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posted on October 3, 2000 11:16:29 PM new
Well, it took me all of 2 minutes to find eastwest's auctions, and he does indeed quote $3.50 for Air shipping via Canada Post.
He best hope a Canada Post rep wasn't reading this thread.
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Zazzie
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posted on October 3, 2000 11:46:13 PM new
Oh my!!---admitting to defrauding a Federal Government Corporation and then leaves a trail of bread crumbs
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shaani
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posted on October 4, 2000 12:05:40 AM new
Maybe Canada Post Kicks Butt?
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reddeer
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posted on October 4, 2000 08:06:36 AM new
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chiquita
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posted on October 4, 2000 12:11:15 PM new
I've been watching this discussion for a day and I'm gonna jump in. I too really can't get over this new pricing system by Canada Post, I have been selling since about June, and have done ok so far but the last batch of packages I sent out just cost me about twice what it normally would.
I have a question about something else regarding Canada Post. As I said I am new to this so if this is a stupid question please excuse! You know when you fill out the customs tag on your packages to the States, when they want to know what it is, what it cost, etc. They only have 2 options, gift or sample of merchandise. What do you all usually put? I was also told once by a postal worker not to use the word antique in my description if I wanted it to get there! What does that tell you about the type people working at Canada Post? Anyway , I just want to make sure I'm doing this the right way, as there is no other options on the tag.
I think Canada Post really screwed up here. Not long ago they were crying because no one sends letters or pays bills through the post any more. Now they get us Ebayers giving them all this money and they want to gouge us!
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Zazzie
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posted on October 4, 2000 12:16:39 PM new
I don't check off either as what I am sending does not fit into either catagory. Been doing it that way for a couple of years--the people at the post office don't query it and nothing has ever gone missing--or been held up at customs for not checking it.
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reddeer
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posted on October 4, 2000 12:37:58 PM new
I always check off "Sample Of Merchandise" on the little green forms. I've shipped hundreds this way & no problem with Canada Post or the USPS.
I also never use the word "antique" unless it really is over 100 years old & is a high ticket item. On expensive pieces that truly are an antique, you should mark the Customs Form
"Antique Over 100 Yrs Old" when shipping to the U.S. as it will insure the item is not tagged with any Duty or Tariffs.
Also, for larger items that require the white
CN23 Customs form make sure to always state the "Country of Origin" If it's made in the USA, then make sure to clearly mark it as such or the bad boys on the US side will open it up & decide for themselves. Different countries of origin, fall under different Tariff classifications.
Always keep the Customs descriptions as simple as possible. Don't go into a long drawn out explanation. If it's a "used" item, also mention that.
[ edited by reddeer on Oct 4, 2000 12:38 PM ]
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Zazzie
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posted on October 4, 2000 12:53:29 PM new
reddeer----you do it differently than MOI !!!!??
Put up your dukes and come out swinging---I'll teach ya to do it my way
Walk Like a Diva
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reddeer
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posted on October 4, 2000 01:18:02 PM new
I was wondering where that "Walk Like a Diva" went to?
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chiquita
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posted on October 4, 2000 01:28:51 PM new
Hi again. Thanks for your input everyone. So have any of you ever had your customer in the States complain that they have ever had to pay duty on what youve sent if you dont mark it as a gift or a sample. That is my biggest concern.
Thanks..
Tundigirl
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Zazzie
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posted on October 4, 2000 01:40:32 PM new
That is an discussion that travels both ways across the border and is for you to decide how you wish to deal with it--but it is basically rude for your buyer to INSIST on it--but there is no harm in asking. There are many many threads here on AW about that---but as we poor Canucks are out-numbered--it is ususally about sending from the USA to Canada as a gift.
If you sold it---it isn't a gift--but you may want to help out your buyer by putting down gift on the customs form---it's your choice. I think that's why I leave it blank--it's neither.
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reddeer
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posted on October 4, 2000 01:49:03 PM new
I've never had a U.S. customer complain about having to pay Duty, and I sell items from $5 to $2,000+ BUT, it's a good idea to mention in your ads, or on a ME page, that you're not responsible for any additional Taxes, Customs, or Duty on your Interntional sales.
Some countries charge some pretty hefty taxes/fees at the other end.
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Zazzie
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posted on October 4, 2000 01:54:34 PM new
----and it's not your responsiblity to help the buyer avoid these charges.
Best advice is to do it legally.....unlike some posters to this thread
I wonder if the crows found the bread crumbs yet???
Walk Like a Diva
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