posted on August 24, 2005 10:35:02 PM
oh and look what I found.
helen's tag-along, attached at the hip buddy:
kiara - posted on May 23, 2005 11:39:09 AM new
Linda_k, don't tell me what I'm doing or what you THINK I'm doing. Once again you are wrong.
Or in simpler language that you will probably understand much easier.....
Cram it up your ass!
posted on August 24, 2005 10:42:45 PM
and here you are helen....when confronted by another posters who was surprised at your defending a horrible statement crowfarm/mingotree made about my son...the Marine.
You defended cf and yourself here:
I live in the east so missed your question last night. With this example, you are indirectly protesting the comment made by crowfarm to linda which mentioned her son. It was a comment that If I had been in Linda's position I would not have taken as an attack on my son or the military. Some of the people here can twist a tale so well that they should start to work for the RNC. That comment pales in comparison to comments that have been delivered by Linda, Bear and Twelvepole. Should they be able to say ANYTHING and expect no one to respond?
About your "hypothetical question"...."It is obvious that you post here so often because your family hates you and their hatred for you causes you to manifest your posts into the hatred that it seems that you have for others in here."
This remark would not bother me. In fact, it does sound mildly humorous and innocuous because it presumes that you know my family and how they feel about me and that you are practicing amateur psychology. I would recognize your anger, justified or not and I would consider the source and understand your motive just as most everyone here would. In order to take such a remark seriously, you would have to know my family and how they feel about me.
It appears that the neocon element here can deliver egregious insults and then feel so abused when someone responds with an innocuous remark. Such overreaction by our most incompassionate neocons is amusing. Helen
[ edited by Helenjw on Jul 22, 2004 06:34 AM
posted on August 24, 2005 10:49:20 PM
Linda, do you still have your Yahoo email. The one that you used to include with your profile?
Or maybe you posted it here a long long time ago, i can't remember which.
posted on August 24, 2005 10:56:40 PM
here's you supporting crowfarm/mingotree again.....when she said she hoped my son got killed while serving our country.
Can't deny you were defending her then either, helen
helen said: "Just for the record...This was my statement about Crowfarm and the LINK to that statement.
Helenjw
posted on January 15, 2005 02:00:28 PM
"Linda, maybe crowfarm's mention of your son was intended to raise your consciousness and awaken, if possible, some empathetic feelings toward victims of torture and war tragedies. Could imagining someone that you love being tortured or killed increase your empathy toward other people in those situations?"
http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&thread=243587&id=243686
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 24, 2005 11:10 PM ]
posted on August 24, 2005 11:06:27 PM
dbl....thank you ...and I will stop. It's just so hard to do when someone like logansdad keeps up with this business of my son and I have sex. It's soooo vile. And then his rabid supporters...who obviously support and LOVE his vile statements come in and attack me. When I have never in my life, had people say things as terrible as that to me. It's SICK.
But I will follow the advice I gave you....thanks so much.
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piinthesky - Yes, that old yahoo address is long since expired - sorry.
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 25, 2005 12:44 AM ]
posted on August 25, 2005 04:52:09 AM Linda, this is my comment to Yellowstone that you copied incorrectly, out of context.
Yellowstone, I live in the east so missed your question last night.
With this example, you are indirectly protesting the comment made by crowfarm to linda which mentioned her son. It was a comment that If I had been in Linda's position I would not have taken as an attack on my son or the military. Some of the people here can twist a tale so well that they should start to work for the RNC. That comment pales in comparison to comments that have been delivered by Linda, Bear and Twelvepole. Should they be able to say ANYTHING and expect no one to respond?
About your "hypothetical question"...."It is obvious that you post here so often because your family hates you and their hatred for you causes you to manifest your posts into the hatred that it seems that you have for others in here."
This remark would not bother me. In fact, it does sound mildly humorous and innocuous because it presumes that you know my family and how they feel about me and that you are practicing amateur psychology. I would recognize your anger, justified or not and I would consider the source and understand your motive just as most everyone here would. In order to take such a remark seriously, you would have to know my family and how they feel about me.
It appears that the neocon element here can deliver egregious insults and then feel so abused when someone responds with an innocuous remark. Such overreaction by our most incompassionate neocons is amusing.
posted on August 25, 2005 05:18:33 AM
Linda, your friend Dbl gave you the best advice. Ignore those comments that are offensive to you. Calling attention to such remarks only serves to publicize them further and in some cases guarantees that they will be used again.
Your expectation that I should defend you against offensive remarks while you are making them against me is absurd. Why should I be held responsible for what other posters say to you?
"The next statement that you made..."It's just so hard to do when someone like logansdad keeps up with this business of my son and I have sex. It's soooo vile. And then his rabid supporters...who obviously support and LOVE his vile statements come in and attack me. When I have never in my life, had people say things as terrible as that to me. It's SICK."[/i]
Nowhere on this board can you find a single individual that has expressed a scintilla of approval or "love" for logansdad's statements about your son...NOWHERE! The fact that you say so reflects more on your character than the remarks that so concern you.
posted on August 25, 2005 10:32:14 AMOh by the way Maggie, a while back when you asked me if i had snitched on LD, at that time i truthfully answered no, however, i have since then written to Vendio, gave them a link to this thread and pointed out LD's bad behaviour and asked them to take a look and make some sort of decision about what to do about it.
NOW WE ALL KNOW THE LIARINTHE SKY IS REALLY LIBRA63.
How many different ID's does Libra need - so far we are on three
Libra63
Septembermom
Piinthesky
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 25, 2005 10:46:44 AM
ROFLMHO @ Your expectation that I should defend you against offensive remarks while you are making them against me is absurd. Why should I be held responsible for what other posters say to you?
Now you believe you know what my expectations are? LOL funny
No, I don't think nor expect that you'd ever say a word to the most vile posters on here....you enjoy it too much, especially when it's directed my way.
What I would expect from any DECENT, MORAL person would be they wouldn't always support/defend etc those who say such things. But you do. You always have....it's your personality/character. or lack thereof.
And I've already posted the support you've given, showed the excuses you've made for crowfarm/mingotree's behavior....so pointing out the same support you've given logans vile statements won't change a thing. You live in a state of denial....even when proof is/has been provide. NOTHING's going to change that....you can't be honest...it's just not in you.
So....carry on. Show more of your true character helen...while continuing to defend the most vile posters on Vendio. They're you 'friends' as you've called them. how sad for you.
posted on August 25, 2005 10:51:33 AMwhat she said was in reference to opinion's,
So calling people un-American, un-patriotic, Socialist or supporting terrorists is just her opinion.
Regardless it is STILL CALLING PEOPLE NAMES AND USING VULGAR LANGUAGE. SHE IS STILL ATTACKING THE PERSON NOT THE POST/RESPONSE.
SO LINDA IS JUST AS MUCH IN VIOLATION OF VENDIO'S GUIDELINES.
what LD said was not an opinion, it was an act that he believes to be true and meant as an insult
SO I GUESS HAVING PEOPLE CALL ME A PEDOFILE OR MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ME BECAUSE I AM GAY IS OK IN YOUR EYES. OH WAIT IT JUST THEIR OPINION I SUPPOSE.
SINCE LINDA LIVES IN ARKANSAS SHE SHOULD BE USED TO ALL THE INCEST/REDNECK REFERENCES. MY REFERENCE WAS JUST A STEREOTYPE, JUST LIKE ALL THE GAY STEREOTYPES THAT HAVE BEEN USED AGAINST ME.
NOW TELL ME THAT IS DIFFERENT.
YOU ARE SUCH THE HYPOCRITE. SINCE YOU JUST DIDN'T START POSTING ON AUGUST 1ST LIKE YOU SAID YOU HAVE (LIAR), I NEVER SAW YOU SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THOSE WHO HAVE CALLED ME NAMES, BUT YET YOU QUICK TO JOIN THE LINDA BANDWAGON TO DEFEND HER.
TYPICAL OF YOU.
IF LINDA DIDN'T LIKE IT THE FIRST TIME, SHE COULD HAVE PUT ME IN IGNORE BUT CHOSE NOT TO. SHE BROUGHT THIS ON HERSELF. SHE IS NOT THE INNOCENT VICTIM AS SHE CLAIMS. PLUS SHE SAYS SHE JUST LET'S EVERYTHING ROLL OFF HER BACK. SO WHAT IS IT? EITHER SHE DOESN'T CARE OR SHE DOES.
LINDA EXPECTS TO HAVE EVERYTHING BOTH WAYS.
I figure, what the heck, maybe hearing from more than one person might just get the job done as it so needs to be done
YOU DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND I WILL BE DOING THE SAME.
IT WAS NICE AND QUIET ON THIS BOARD WHEN LINDA TOOK HER FIRST VACATION.
What I would expect from any DECENT, MORAL person would be they wouldn't always support/defend etc those who say such things. But you do. You always have....it's your personality/character. or lack thereof.
SHE EXPECTS PEOPLE TO BACK HER UP AND CONDEMN THOSE THAT SPEAK NASTY AGAINST HER. WHERE WAS SHE WHEN I WAS ATTACKED. JUST MORE EXAMPLES OF LINDA'S DOUBLE STANDARDS AND HYPOCRISY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BY NOT SPEAKING OUT AGAINST SOMETHING SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU FAVOR THAT ACTION.
BY THE WAY, I FINALLY TOOK MY OWN ADVICE AND PUT LINDA ON IGNORE.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on Aug 25, 2005 11:23 AM ]
posted on August 25, 2005 10:52:57 AM
CLASSIC: VERY BAD
THIS COMING FROM THE ANGEL HIMSELF WHO HAS NEVER SPOKEN A VULGAR OR VILE WORD.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 25, 2005 10:56:27 AM
Take a breath logan....you're losing it again...screaming and such.
Calling posters un-American, etc. is a political label that's used all the time in MSM print. While making vile, vulgar statements is not allowed....somethimes can't even be said on TV...and is certainly against our community guidelines.
Trying to pretend differently is to be in total denial.
posted on August 25, 2005 11:06:50 AM
While we’re noting things copied incorrectly, just a little note on the cram it up your ass quote above that lindak copied. I would never write it in bold like she's made it out to be because it's not the way I write. In the context she copied, it would have been said by me in a quiet and joking manner with a smilie, and not bolded.
posted on August 25, 2005 11:33:51 AM
kiara....who you trying to fool, or make believe you haven't said that exact statement to me THREE times in this past year?
No one that's read them...certainly not me...and I have saved them all.
posted on August 25, 2005 11:43:34 AM
I'm not trying to fool anyone, lindak. I'm not denying the statement but I just happen to know my own writing and it's not something I would have written in bold as you've made it out to be. It's not the first time you have changed a so-called quote either. I found the original thread and in fact I did not write it in bold, as it's not the way I write when I say something in a calm manner.
posted on August 25, 2005 11:44:06 AM
As I said, Your EXPECTATION that I should defend you against offensive remarks while you are, at the same time making offensive remarks against me is ABSURD. Why should I be held responsible for what other posters say to you?
You raise such hell about your perception of my attitude toward another poster's remarks and then when I offer advice, you say ...you take care of helen and I'll take care of Linda"
Well, DO IT and stop blaming and insinuating that we should take care of YOU. Provocative statements invite a similar response. For example, don't make such statements as this one in which you said, "On your butt you posted - [mooning]....looks a little red to me...might want to have a doctor check it out...might be something serious you've caught."
posted on August 25, 2005 12:08:42 PM
LOL helen....oh but you haven't provided the OTHER links where logan carried on like this for a week or so, Before he posted that 'red butt' and I commented on it. Are YOU sneakydave? LOL
posted on August 25, 2005 12:12:11 PM
LOL and here's tag-along...implying I've changed something in the copy and paste of her RUDE statements to me.
funny kaira. As anyone can see, nothing you wrote was change. OH the HORROR that I bolded it. Yes, I'm sure many would agree with you that changes EVERYTHING you said in that post. LOL LOL LOL
You only embarass yourself kiara.
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Now you and helen play nicely in the sand box...or I won't let you play with your sizzors today.
posted on August 25, 2005 12:21:51 PM
lindak, if you are going to attribute certain quotes to posters, please have the decency to copy them correctly and back it up with links to the original post so others can judge the context and the right format in which they were originally made instead of trying to change them to suit yourself.
posted on August 25, 2005 12:40:35 PM
LOL kiara....NOTHING you said was changed. period. I will post and bold what I choose to...thank you anyway for trying your best to always control my actions....but it never has worked and it won't EVER work.
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Just like helen.....caps and bolding saying:
Linda, this is my comment to Yellowstone that you copied incorrectly, out of context.
LOL Not one word different than the one I posted....just out of courtesy for the poster I left off his/her name because he/she doesn't post here anymore. And not posting their name does NOT change the CONTEXT one tiny bit...to more rational people anyway.
AND what does that bring from helen? "you copied incorrectly, out of context. Like neither of you have done anything but copy and past the full and entire link for what you want to post. right.....not
posted on August 25, 2005 12:53:05 PM
Yes, it does change the quote when style or words are changed. It is your style to constantly write in bold and it is not mine.
When only sentences are taken from paragraphs or quotes are taken out of context or changed and used in other threads it's difficult to judge how they were originally intended when no link is given.
So I said 'cram it up your ass' 3 different times. So what? You threatened to report me and I didn't get booted. Does it bother you that much that you have to continue to drag it up constantly years/months later? Does it bother you that I continue to stay calm most of the time? If that's all you can fault me on when it comes to my comments directed to you (besides telling you that I do not worship Bush as a god), I think I've done fairly well.
posted on August 25, 2005 01:29:21 PM"LOL Not one word different than the one I posted....just out of courtesy for the poster I left off his/her name because he/she doesn't post here anymore. And not posting their name does NOT change the CONTEXT one tiny bit...to more rational people anyway.'
Oh yes, the omission of that name has a profound effect on the meaning of the response. Your consideration for the poster who doesn't post here any more is humorous.
Since when has that been one of your guidelines??? Why would you see the need to protect a poster who had only asked a question? The name of the person to whom I am responding is important because it identifies the author of the hypothetical question and sheds some light on why the question was asked. As a matter of fact, I believe that the poster identified as Yellowstone is posting here today.
Maintaining paragraph divisions is also important for clarity...I suppose you learned that in third grade?
Your practice of bolding words or writing in Caps when the original poster did not is also misleading. I'm sure that you understand why. You just don't give a dam.
posted on August 25, 2005 10:40:35 PM
how did he get your email addy??
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