posted on December 1, 2005 10:38:28 AM newOkay, since everybody is guessing who NBW is let me say, I don't have a clue. At first I thought it was Etexbill, then I thought our own Profe but honestly, I don't know.
Maggie, you're usually the FIRST person to level an accusation whenever a newbie comes along and then you set about to prosecute the newbie with 20 questions about their gender, age, location, etc. You're slippin in your prosecutorial duties around here. Am i going to have to get the Seargent At Arms to strip you of your rank?? LOL
.....and Redstaterising is probably feeling left out that no one thinks it's him. Sorry Red, i had to throw that one out there or i'd be derelict in my duties.
posted on December 1, 2005 10:48:24 AM new
Back on topic
SAN FRANCISCO - The California Supreme Court refused Wednesday to halt the scheduled execution of convicted killer Stanley Tookie Williams, the Crips gang founder who became an anti-gang activist while in prison and whose supporters claim has redeemed himself.
In a last-ditch legal move, defense attorneys petitioned the high court earlier this month, alleging shoddy forensic testing and other errors may have wrongly sent Williams to San Quentin State Prison, where he is scheduled die by injection Dec. 13.
Lawyers for Williams, author of a series of anti-gang books for children, wanted to re-exam ballistics evidence that showed his shotgun was used to kill three people during a 1979 motel robbery.
The defense claimed the forensic evidence was "junk science," but prosecutors said that allegation was "based upon innuendo, supposition and the patent bias of (Williams') purported expert."
"The extraordinary relief Williams sought is reserved for those cases which have legal merit," said Nathan Barankin, spokesman for Attorney General Bill Lockyer.
The high court voted 4-2 without comment to deny the inmate's petition, with Chief Justice Ronald George voting to reopen the case.
"We think the chief justice's dissent highlights the seriousness of the issues raised," defense attorney Jonathan Harris said. He was unsure whether he would ask the federal courts to intervene again.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger could also still intervene. He has agreed to hear Williams' clemency petition, and if clemency is granted it would commute the inmate's sentence to life without parole.
"What I want to do is make sure we make the right decisions, because we're dealing here with a person's life," Schwarzenegger said Wednesday.
The high court's ruling came as death penalty opponents rallied around the state urging the governor to spare Williams' life because of his apparent turnabout on death row.
"We're all remaining optimistic. We're all remaining prayerful," Bonnie Williams-Taylor, Williams' ex-wife and the mother of one of his sons, said at a rally in Los Angeles.
Nathan Barankin, spokesman for Attorney General Bill Lockyer, expressed satisfaction with Wednesday's ruling. "The extraordinary relief Williams sought is reserved for those cases which have legal merit," he said.
Williams, condemned in 1981, has maintained his innocence. Among his claims is that fabricated testimony sent him to death row. He also says prosecutors violated his rights when they dismissed all potential black jurors from his case.
The California Supreme Court, federal trial and appeals courts, and the U.S. Supreme Court have already ruled against him in earlier appeals.
Williams was condemned for killing Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang and Yu-Chin Yang Lin in the motel robbery, and for gunning down Albert Owens, a 7-Eleven clerk, in a separate crime.
While in prison, Williams has campaigned for an end to youth gang violence while co-authoring anti-gang books for youngsters. Supporters have nominated him several times for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Williams and a high school friend started the Crips in Los Angeles in 1971 and it grew into one of the nation's most notorious street gangs
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on December 1, 2005 10:49:55 AM new
Yeah, that's true, PI. I usually do interrogate new posters if I think they sound like just another id of a regular poster here, but NBW doesn't really sound like anyone here that I know. PI, a lot of people sound like you! Redstaterising sounds just like you, so does desquirrel and yellowstone and more recently Toke. I guess you just sound like a lot of people.
posted on December 1, 2005 11:11:26 AM new
Watch it Maggie or i'll have the Seargent At Arms cast you down to the mail-room with Classic and Fenix. LOL
posted on December 1, 2005 11:24:32 AM new
I don't know any of the posters from the old days on the RT or what ever it was called back then, Linda. I thought the toke id sounded like PI or yourself. You said you had an id over on that board at one time didn't you?
I've lurked and posted on that other board a few times and didn't realize that they were all previous RT members. Most sound like great people, with the exception of a few who seem to resent newcomers.
But no wonder we all sound alike after a year or two of posting, we all use each other's words,and phrases and insults, over and over again. Different posters, different views, same words over and over and over again.
posted on December 2, 2005 03:25:09 AM newI thought the toke id sounded like PI or yourself. You said you had an id over on that board at one time didn't you?
Well...I've read toke's posts for years now....and I just don't happen to agree that she posts anything like PI or I do. Plus she's a leftie...as are most posters over there.
And yes, there are quite a few really nice people over there....even though they are lefties/liberals. Many were able to discuss/disagree on political issues without all the nastiness we sometimes/often experience here.
And yes, I said I had registered over there when many left here - as some jerks were registering there with names that were other peoples userid's from here...and I wanted to be sure no one would register with my userid from here. But I never posted over there.
