posted on January 6, 2006 09:18:59 AM new
What was interesting was the documentary? by Peter Jennings, In Search of (Historical) Jesus.
Interviewed Jews, Scholars, Historians etc
They all disagreed who and where he was from
One thing they all agreed on,at the end, is that Jesus *could* be the Messiah (or Christ) because at the time when he was on Earth, there was a lot of movements going on where a lot of men claimed they were the Messiah.
The only 'movement' that lasted and is still going on today? Well, he's the topic of this thread.
posted on January 6, 2006 01:07:26 PM new
"Wasn't he just the "Wayne Dyer" of his time?"
No. By all accounts, Jesus had hair.
"I also wonder if a "Messiah" came to earth today, would he be believed?"
That's the big thing about what happened in Jesus day. The Messiah was supposed to be a great warrior who would have freed the Jews. The Messiah that actually showed up had other plans. Hence the disagreement between the Christians and the Jews. They DIDN'T recognize him.
But... If some Jewish guy took over Israel even today, and managed to conquer the entire middle-east and gave Jews a huge paradise to live in, then he'd probably called the Messiah by the Jews. This is a big point behind the "Dome of the Rock" Mosque built in Jerusalem. The Jews believe they can't have their Messiah until they control that location. It's complicated, but then that's the middle-east for you.
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posted on February 10, 2006 03:32:09 PM new
Here's some closure on an old thread. I can't say this was a surprise, but you just never know with European courts.
ROME, Italy (AP) -- An Italian judge has dismissed an atheist's petition that a small-town priest should stand trial for asserting that Jesus Christ existed, both sides said on Friday.
Luigi Cascioli, a 72-year-old retired agronomist, had accused the Rev. Enrico Righi of violating two laws with the assertion, which he called a deceptive fable propagated by the Roman Catholic Church.
"The Rev. Righi is very satisfied and moved," Righi's attorney, Severo Bruno, said. "He is an old, small-town parish priest who never would have thought he'd be in the spotlight for something like this."
Cascioli, a former schoolmate of Righi's, said he had not expected the case to succeed in overwhelmingly Roman Catholic Italy.
"This is not surprising but it doesn't mean it all ends here," he said, adding that he's considering taking the case to the European Court of Human Rights.
"This is an important case and it deserves to go ahead," he said.
Judge Gaetano Mautone said in his decision that prosecutors should investigate Cascioli for possible slander.
The ruling was released Thursday in Viterbo, a town north of Rome where the priest is based. Cascioli filed a criminal complaint against Righi in 2002 after Righi wrote in a parish bulletin that Jesus existed, that he was born to a couple named Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem and that he lived in Nazareth.
Righi, 76, said substantial historical evidence proves Jesus' existence.
Cascioli claimed that Righi's assertions violated two Italian laws: one barring "abuse of popular belief," or fraudulently deceiving people; and another barring "impersonation" or personal gain from attributing a false name to someone.
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