posted on March 28, 2001 11:15:18 AM
>>although I'm sure now that I've said this, someone will feel compelled to post 'Well I don't know about anyone else, but I applaud the new policy' ... What's the unspoken agenda here?<<
Spaz, I'm sorry, I just tuned in. My exception to your comments and others are not contrary simply to be contrary. I think you are way off the mark.
>> IMHO it would be much easier for AW to state: No Auction Links ALLOWED - PERIOD<<
This is an auction discussion forum. This isn't just about links. It's about mentioning an auction, even providing enough information so that clever posters can find the auction. As I posted earlier in the MC, if I can't say that someone is auctioning a rare Hendrix guitar at eBay, then what's the point of having an auction discussion forum?
I can not understand this backlash on the part of so many posters here. AW is giving you (us) more freedom, and yet you object to this, apparently on the grounds that you believe AW posters can't control themselves or self-moderate. Were you people raised in a barn?
AW policy vis-a-vis discussing the seller has not changed. The only thing that has changed is allowing auctions to be discussed (including links). AW is assuming greater liability by this action, and so is going out on a limb for us posters. Just say thank you, and move along!
See my comments regarding your views on this in the Moderator's Corner thread. Your own actions -- as admitted by you in your first post there -- undercut any point you're trying to make.
I have just been informed by Administration that they have reviewed your comments and have decided to disallow auction links.
Also, as always, auction IDs will not be allowed unless you post your own yourself.
Again as always, if a thread turns into a discussion of a seller/bidder or if identifying information is posted we will delete the posts containing such information.
posted on March 28, 2001 12:05:00 PM
I applaud AW for reversing course on this policy.
I could see nothing but trouble coming if they hadn't.
Ain't Life Grand...
posted on March 28, 2001 12:08:44 PM
Gosh Reddeer,
You're my hero!
I am glad that insanity is over.
Pareau is right, in my short history here, I have seen enough scary-assed stuff to remain anonymous.
Heck, I am pretty anonymous on ebay. Don't have a home phone, use a PO box etc.
Recently was threatened by a seller.
Yoiks!
Does AW recommend that posters have different IDs from their Ebay IDs, as posts talking about auctions in general will then mean that the specific auction can be identified. If I understand correctly, it has been said that if a seller/auction/bidder is identified, that the discussion will be locked. If someone can link your words in general about an auction to the specific auction through your ID, it appears that your postings can be severely limited.
posted on March 28, 2001 01:45:29 PM
I wasn't RAISED in a barn, but I certainly almost LIVE there now & the reversal decision was an EXCELLENT one & I applaud you AW!
posted on March 28, 2001 02:08:24 PM
Look... I am really pi**ed off.
I pursued the question of how AW would allow discussions of auctions, in the wake of Ebay's email change.
And I waited for a response...
And I waited for a response...
Then I posted again, and waited, and eventually got this cack-handed policy change, which has now been reversed.
And I have continued to ask questions about how you are going to interpret situations, and asked for guidance about AW/Ebay IDs.
AW seems really quick on changing its policy in the face of seller objections, and quick in deleting the Moderator's Corner, but pretty bloody slow at answering my questions.
Come on! I do have some legitimate questions... I am not being picky, and I really, truly DO want to know the groundrules.
I apologize for the delay in responding to your questions. It's been a pretty busy day around here.
If an AW member posts with their auction ID and discusses their auctions here, they are making a conscious decision to open their auction activities to scrutiny. We do encourage everyone who wishes to maintain their anonymity to post under a different user ID here at AW. We would also caution everyone not to post information that would identify your auctions if you value your anonymity. There are some really good sleuths here at AW, and you never know who is lurking.
RainyBear,
Apologies to you also. There will be no requirement for inviting the seller/bidder because discussion of sellers/bidders will not be allowed. In any case, the changes eBay has made would make it very difficult for us to determine whether a seller/bidder had actually been invited or not.
I'm having several "almost 50 moments" today plus I'm still a bit rattled by being unceremoniously dumped on the street when they WOMD the Moderators Corner while I was still in there, so forgive my confusion.
In the past, we've been allowed to discuss a seller/auction so long as we've invited the seller (and provided proof to AW's satisfaction that we've done so).
Now, we are no longer allowed to discuss an seller/auction AT ALL (and I don't mean our own) regardless of whether we can provide proof we've invited the seller. Is that correct?
BTW, you should atleast give a person warning before you dump them on the street. My nerves aren't what they used to be.
posted on March 28, 2001 02:49:55 PM
Pat, clarification please. You're also saying that no auction that can be identified by AW super sleuths can be discussed either, right?
Had you been here a year or two back, you'd understand why some of us feel so strongly about this issue. I also feel that if you depended on your online sales to pay the bills each month, you might feel differently about this subject.
As to: How on earth can auctions be discussed
Wasn't it you that had a problem around Xmas time that you brought to this forum with regards to a seller that would not refund you? I believe the item had arrived broken
due to the sellers poor packing skills, is that correct?
Did you not receive the help/advice you needed without posting the actual auction # or sellers ID?
As I recall the auction, the seller, and the entire situation were discussed thoroughly, with no need for the actual auction # or a link to the auction being needed.
