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 eventer
 
posted on April 13, 2001 06:47:02 AM
Ah, Bill, I've taken so many people for a ride.

It would be my pleasure! Meet us at Spruce Meadows this summer & we'll give you a pony ride!

P.S. How've you been? All well, I hope.

 
 naru
 
posted on April 13, 2001 06:47:09 AM
As a matter of fact commentary (righteous here) I do file and remit GST and PST, but even if I didn't, if I choose to cheat on my taxes, so be it, I wouldn't ask SOMEONE ELSE to do it for me.

 
 cdnbooks
 
posted on April 13, 2001 06:47:59 AM
musicman12533

...as a first step they look to see if inclosed in the package is an invoice/receipt or a Happy Birthday card....

Bill
[ edited by cdnbooks on Apr 13, 2001 06:51 AM ]
 
 cdnbooks
 
posted on April 13, 2001 06:50:09 AM
eventer

Yes, all is well. And a pony would be just about right. A slow pony!

So its Alberta this summer for the young rider. She should be pleased.

Bill
 
 Libra63
 
posted on April 13, 2001 06:50:52 AM
I understand what greyowl is talking about. As stated before I would not lie on the forms but I would put the auction price on the form. It is like that here with the USPS insurance. You cannot get the value of the item only the auction price plus postage. If you could get the value we would all get rich off the USPS. i.e. If I sell an item for $10.00 but the value is really $50.00 I would put $10.00 on the form. The value to the buyer is only what he/she paid for it.

 
 ExecutiveGirl
 
posted on April 13, 2001 06:55:44 AM
commentary:

Also, all these righteous posters here, do you file a sales tax report and send in the sales tax due on your purchases from out of state?

I do everything BY THE BOOK. Yes, I file my taxes every year on EVERY single ebay sale. Yes, I collect sales tax for all purchases WITHIN my state (you do not have to file sales taxes for out-of-state purchases).

And the same goes with my international buyers. I will not lie for them just to save them a few dollars. I will not lie on a government form for ANY reason, and it's pretty RUDE for a customer to ask me to do such a thing. They know they have taxes, (or duty) to pay, so it's their responsibility to make sure they consider that when placing their bid.

musicman: I ship hundreds of packages every week. Every week I ship a few international packages. One side of those little customs forms are filed at the post office. They have the shipper's name on them, and the buyer's name on them, what the item is, the value, etc. It wouldn't take much to look up one of my slips and if I was putting "gift" on all of them it would be pretty obvious that they are not gifts. They are all going to different people, different countries, and I'm just sending gifts out to people?? Please. PLUS... my post office KNOWS I have a business and when they go over my customs forms and if they were to see "gift" they would KNOW it was a lie. No way am I going to let them even think for a SECOND that I am lying on the forms.

Sorry, but I am an HONEST seller.

 
 cdnbooks
 
posted on April 13, 2001 07:02:08 AM
...all hail the honest seller...



Bill
 
 toke
 
posted on April 13, 2001 07:20:47 AM
I don't want to get smooshed by a car, so it happens rarely...but...I have been known to jaywalk.

 
 eventer
 
posted on April 13, 2001 07:54:24 AM
toke,

Bill doesn't REALLY know what it's like to be on a high horse until he gets on a warmblood, right?

 
 toke
 
posted on April 13, 2001 08:02:19 AM
Ha eventer!

Too right...

 
 wilburcall
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:17:53 AM
I love all these high and mighty "moral" types talking about how they do this or that by the book.

Don't make me laugh.

Guaranteed half of you are lying through your crooked teeth. "Oh, I pay this tax and that tax and declare that and this".

Give me a break. How stupid do you think everyone is, anyway?

Sometimes I lie on the customs form, sometimes I don't. WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO KNOW!

More importantly, and I mean this from the heart, WHO CARES?

Typically in this society, when someone is being too high and mighty, they're hiding some serious skeletons.

Take all these goody-2-shoes words with a big, fat, grain of salt.


[ edited by wilburcall on Apr 13, 2001 09:25 AM ]
 
 cdnbooks
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:18:06 AM
...my wife tells me I spend far too much time on my high horse...

Bill
 
 ExecutiveGirl
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:22:51 AM
wilburcall: Just because you may be a dishonest person (and seem to be proud of it) does not mean everyone is dishonest.

 
 wilburcall
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:26:07 AM
ExecutiveGirl:

Oh I bet if we scoured your little life we would find some buried treasures.

I have NO doubt.

Get real.

 
 ExecutiveGirl
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:28:09 AM
See what I mean? Just because you are a dishonest person (you were bragging about it a couple posts above), you try to make everyone else look bad. By trying to make others look bad, you are only making yourself look worse.

Keep digging your hole there, Wilbur.

 
 wilburcall
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:36:47 AM
Keep playing the hypocrite that most of us know you are, ExecutiveGirl.

 
 wilburcall
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:38:32 AM
There are sooooooo many Charles Keatings, Jesse Jackson's, Jimmy Swaggert's, Jim Bakers, Newt Gingrich's and so on out there.

DO you really think you're fooling anyone?

Certainly human nature, but I guess YOU are above all that. YOU would never lie.

Oooops, you just did!

[ edited by wilburcall on Apr 13, 2001 09:39 AM ]
 
 Commentary
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:42:49 AM
My original post was not meant to create personal attacks. So far, no answer has been given. I will repeat the questions.

Has anyone ever been arrested for lying on the customs form about a small purchase? Have the Canadian government ever contacted the U.S. government to have someone arrested.

Also, my sales tax question is not on whether you collect sales tax from your buyers. But, do all the righteous posters on this topic remit sales tax for their OWN purchases when it is done via mailorder and sales tax was not collected.

By the way, I have jaywalk once or twice

 
 wilburcall
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:46:04 AM
To answer your question, Commentary, are you serious?

We are talking FINES at the absolute freakin' MOST.

C'mon, be serious.


[ edited by wilburcall on Apr 13, 2001 09:49 AM ]
 
 shaani
 
posted on April 13, 2001 09:51:15 AM
Hi Commentary,

I have never heard of anyone being arrested for lying on a Customs form. But maybe someone has, who knows?

And yesterday I saw a cop jaywalk from in front of our shop over to the coffee shop.



 
 SmittyAW
 
posted on April 13, 2001 10:11:48 AM
Wilburcall..

Your posts are becoming disruptful and violate the principles of basic etiquette. Please consider this a warning, if you continue to post in this vein you will be placing your posting privileges in jeopardy.

If you have questions regarding moderation, please email [email protected].

Smitty
[email protected]


 
 reston_ray
 
posted on April 13, 2001 10:16:40 AM
Where I live in No. Va, there are several highway on which the usual traffic flow , other than at rush hour, is above the posted speed limit. Try driving at the speed limit and you will have 18 wheelers on your butt.

We also have a state sales tax and a provision of the law says that an item we have delivered to us from out of state is to have a sales tax paid on it, by us, thru a self reporting process along with our state income tax. I believe every state with a sales tax has a similar provision.

Revenue collection figures suggest that over 98% of that self reporting sales tax is not paid.

So one could say that "our local custom" is for nearly everyone to break the law by speeding and not paying the self reported portion of sales tax.

People from elsewhere, and in particular other countries, might find our local disregard for breaking these laws hard to understand. Even the most up-standing of our locals just think of it as the way we do things here.

Others may have their own local customs such as avoiding some taxes on purchases received in the mail.

While I may or may not be willing to assist them in their local customs, I try to refrain from lecturing them on ethics while speeding to the PO wearing cloths purchased from out-of-state on which I have avoided paying local sales tax.

On a map of the world, the elevation of the high ground I thought I lived on isn't all that high.

 
 toke
 
posted on April 13, 2001 10:21:26 AM
reston ray...

Thank you. Well said...

 
 reddeer
 
posted on April 13, 2001 10:30:45 AM
Some people can't see the forest for the trees.

 
 cdnbooks
 
posted on April 13, 2001 10:38:00 AM
SmittyAW

You must be kidding. Step back and get some perspective.

Bill
 
 gs4
 
posted on April 13, 2001 10:51:20 AM
Why keep beating this same old dead horse over and over again? Slow week or what?

 
 Commentary
 
posted on April 13, 2001 10:55:52 AM
Reston Ray

Nicely put - I just want to make sure I was not the only one running along a gray line. With all these righteous posters here, I was beginning to think I was not going to heaven. Of course, the jaywalking may have already done me in.

It would be also interesting to see what business deductions and income was reported on the tax return by all these righteous posters.

 
 ExecutiveGirl
 
posted on April 13, 2001 11:01:05 AM
would a less than $20 item really cost $70.00 after taxes??

It's shameful that a simple question like this can cause so much rudeness and hatefulness.

 
 wilburcall
 
posted on April 13, 2001 11:09:44 AM
It is a BIGGER shame that some posters cannot help but to pat themselves on the back, while putting themselves above others who are clearly more forthcoming.

It must be nice to believe everyone thinks you're so good and so moral.

Ah, beneath it all lies the truth.





 
 ExecutiveGirl
 
posted on April 13, 2001 11:15:30 AM
I don't recall seeing any posters here saying they are above anyone else, or patting themselves on the back. I see some posters who simply say they will not lie on a government form, and I see others who seem to brag that they WILL lie on a government form.

But what I DO see, is posters who say they are honest getting slammed by the ones who say they themselves are NOT honest.

Only on an AW board!


[ edited by ExecutiveGirl on Apr 13, 2001 11:16 AM ]
 
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