ExecutiveGirl
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posted on October 4, 2001 04:26:44 PM new
I have watched the AFA counts go from 35,000+ down to today's low of 18,311.
I check it several times a day and feel a little bit more relieved every time the number gets lower.
Anyone want to count down with me and see how low the # will go?
Doesn't look like much longer and AFA will be practically non-existant and the rest of us sellers can hopefully get our sales back to normal.
10/4 - 18,311

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gs4
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posted on October 4, 2001 04:50:31 PM new
I'm with you on this one. I hope its over by the end of october. Xmas is getting too close.
Sellers can't keep giving away things for free.
[ edited by gs4 on Oct 4, 2001 05:08 PM ]
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on October 4, 2001 05:07:59 PM new
Down to 18,288

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GreedBay
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posted on October 4, 2001 05:13:20 PM new
ExecutiveGirl-
You need to use a wildcard search to get more up-to-date numbers, the actual number is around 17,500... Go into the search utility, put a star (upper case 8) in the
item field, and check the AFA only box...
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on October 4, 2001 05:16:28 PM new
Thanks GreedBay!
On Ebay's AFA page it shows 18,249
Using an actual search it shows 17,328

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Microbes
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posted on October 4, 2001 05:18:44 PM new
From the AB:
***Minimum Bid Price for Dutch and Buy it Now Listings in Auction For America***
All Dutch auctions within Auction for America must have a starting bid
of at least one dollar. Buy It Now prices on Auction for America listings must also be at least one dollar. Dutch and Buy it Now listings that do not have at least a one dollar minimum bid price per item, will be removed. Single quantity auctions within Auction for America do not have a minimum opening bid requirement.
Thank you for your ongoing support of Auction for America.
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So how many AFA where "penny auctions"?
[ edited by Microbes on Oct 4, 2001 05:19 PM ]
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genxmike
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posted on October 4, 2001 05:21:31 PM new
Anyone who thinks that 18,000 AFA auctions is affecting their sales level should probably take another look at what they are selling.
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tomwiii
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posted on October 4, 2001 05:27:58 PM new
My EIGHT AFU auctions are finished...just in time to be s$#%@'ed out of $15.90 in shipping reimbursements!
Even if I witnessed pigs ~singing "The Yellow Rose of Texas" ~ flying out of Dubya's posterior, I wouldn't list another AFU auction!
[ edited by tomwiii on Oct 4, 2001 05:28 PM ]
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smw
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posted on October 4, 2001 05:36:33 PM new
I want to make sure I understand........
If ebay doesn't require a starting bid for a regular A4A auction, does this mean that someone can come along and snipe it for a penny?
Tomwii, Always a treat to read your poetical ranting.
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tomwiii
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posted on October 4, 2001 05:43:44 PM new
If yer gonna rant, then I say: rant poetically, RIGHT?? 
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Microbes
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posted on October 4, 2001 05:57:35 PM new
does this mean that someone can come along and snipe it for a penny?
I would think so. I was just looking, and there are a fair number of penny auctions closing within the next few hours with no bids....
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wranglers
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posted on October 4, 2001 06:00:26 PM new
genxmike
I would have to agree that the poor sales speak more to the fact the sales are just in the toilet and were I do believe that the sales were down from the launch of AFA that's not what is affecting sales now.
But I will be glad when they are gone, if we are going to go down the tubes that's one thing but don't try to boost your sales on the back of such a tragedy.
eBay fees are like being slowly pecked to death by chickens!!!
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uaru
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posted on October 4, 2001 06:13:08 PM new
This might be one of the longest threads in AW's history. How many more days of AFA are there? I know it's over 2 months.
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on October 4, 2001 06:17:09 PM new
There might be over 2 months left for the AFA, but if they have 0 auctions listed over there, AFA will be over regardless.

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undercovers
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posted on October 4, 2001 06:26:18 PM new
ok guys....i would love to countdown with you...but to be honest, i think ebay still has major plans that it has not even begun to implement to make their goal....
1. going to malls to teach people how to list on ebay to 'help' america....i never saw that one coming....but neither did we see this AFA promotion....
2. going on several MAJOR programs to get their 'goodness' talked about....
3 being advertised by pres bush
i don't think any of us saw this stuff coming....and bet there are lots more things that they have up their sleeves to screw us....but to help 'america' aka EBAY
i hope you are right that this is going to dwindle and go away.....but i would almost bet that they aint going away....
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packer
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posted on October 4, 2001 06:43:04 PM new
I took a stroll over to A4A and couldn't believe some of the goofiest stuff their trying to sell.
If that is any idication of the type of stuff thats going to be offered over the next 3 months, god help them. People will tier of it real fast.
It won't matter how much Meggy-pooh advertises, its just not going to cut it.
packer
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MAH645
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posted on October 4, 2001 06:45:56 PM new
I don't think what I'm Selling is affecting my sales,I think its where I'm selling it.I'm having great results where there isn't a A4A going on ....YAHOO!.....
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mballai
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posted on October 4, 2001 06:49:56 PM new
There seems to be truth to the fact that if you have to shout, what you are saying is of very little substance. eBay has made enormous efforts to promote this program, but most people really want very little to do with it. People either give or they don't, and in the middle of a mild recession and considerable duress, most won't anyway.
There was some more news today about how some of the relief funds are being used, or should I say, abused, and that was enough for me to keep my wallet closed. If I make any further donations, it will be directly to a family in need. I think that eBay, with its considerable technical ability, could create a fund that would pay from AFA directly to the bidders' choice of a recipient up to x number of dollars. It would personalize the campaign in a unique way. Charities for years have known that a face or faces with a brief story mean far more to a donor than a mere organization and someone's lofty goal.
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wranglers
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posted on October 4, 2001 06:58:35 PM new
we have about 600 items in stock and we too started listing on yahoo when they started A4A. we only listed about 60 items at first at the same starting price as on ebay and our sell through is about 46% where as on ebay we are running around 18-21%. I do have to say that I only listed our best sellers on yahoo, if I had tools that worked with yahoo I would be listing it all over there as well. I still think that yahoo would out pace eBay only do to less saturation of listings
eBay fees are like being slowly pecked to death by chickens!!!
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wbdareme
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posted on October 4, 2001 07:19:56 PM new
I wonder if Meg's fanny will be in a sling over this one, but I can't see eBay giving up on this yet. I'm bracing for more stupid ideas that will hurt small sellers.
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smw
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posted on October 4, 2001 07:39:07 PM new
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/011004/40614_1.html
Looks as if Meg has decided that dealing with the unwashed masses isn't the answer to making the 100 mil goal.
She is going to try to solve this problem with big ticket items.
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Microbes
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posted on October 4, 2001 07:46:14 PM new
She is going to try to solve this problem with big ticket items.
I predicted this awhile back. Even so, 100 million isn't exactly chump change, and she's gonna' hafta hustle her butt off if she wants to pull it off. And no way will this hurt the average seller. It'll just bring eBay lots of attention.
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kiara
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posted on October 4, 2001 07:51:31 PM new
Meg could also bring in more money if she had actors, singers and sports stars donate their autographed underwear or something.
Do you think she would bend the rules about it having to be clean? 
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MAH645
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posted on October 4, 2001 08:01:11 PM new
If someone list a pair of E-Bay boxer drawers signed "Go ahead make my day" by Clint Eastwood let me know.
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capotasto
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posted on October 4, 2001 08:05:23 PM new
"I'm with you on this one. I hope its over by the end of october."
It will be. Remember when JFK was assasinated? (Nov 22 1963 if you forgot.) Five weeks later the Beatles came to the USA, and everyone forgot about him.
"Do you think she would bend the rules about it having to be clean? "
She would bend anything. She might even bend over.
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mballai
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posted on October 4, 2001 08:24:50 PM new
Then they could auction off a swift kick from a disgruntled seller to her fanny.....
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tomwiii
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posted on October 4, 2001 08:27:20 PM new
Say...whatever happened to that poster, buggery? Now that he's actually needed! 
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robnzak
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posted on October 4, 2001 08:46:25 PM new
notice the home page? AFA no longer takes up most of it, it's shrunk to a blip. (thank you) Now, a person can actually find the regular seller categories.
Rob
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outoftheblue
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posted on October 4, 2001 09:41:18 PM new
undercovers
President Bush promotes it. Lisitngs start to decline...
They've already done mall promotions. Listings decline more..
They've done TV promotions. Listings decline even more..
Face it, AFA has a terminal illness
17,209 Listings
[ edited by outoftheblue on Oct 4, 2001 09:42 PM ]
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glasshappy
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posted on October 4, 2001 11:20:09 PM new
FROM THE SEPT 11th FUND SITE:
How will funds be allocated?
United Way and The New York Community Trust are meeting with city, state, and federal agencies and representatives from relief organizations and other nonprofit service providers. We are assessing individual and community needs and identifying where government money will be contributed. We are determining the gaps and will provide emergency assistance for victims and their families, grants that meet the needs of others affected by the disaster, and support to rebuild communities.
Broad categories of need that we have identified to date, include:
Increase the ability of disaster-assistance agencies to respond to emergency needs.
Sustain the psychological well-being individuals and families in New York and other affected communities.
Support the social-economic recovery of individuals, families, and communities.
Support the economic rebuilding of lower Manhattan.
Ensure the capacity of nonprofits to continue to provide services.
Monitor and mitigate the environmental impacts of the disaster.
Promote respect and tolerance within New York and other affected communities.
Final goals for the Fund will be decided upon by the governing bodies that is being developed in consultation with other funders and experts. Back to Top
Who will determine the policies, procedures, and operating standards of The Fund?
A governance structure is being developed that will include business and community leaders. We are committed to the highest level of accountability and impact. Back to Top
When will funds be allocated?
Initial grants have already been made to organizations providing emergency financial and legal assistance to victims and their families.
How will donors, including companies, be recognized?
The generosity of all donors, including individuals, companies and institutions are greatly appreciated. The September 11th Fund will appropriately acknowledge gifts. We do ask for donors' patience in the early phase.
Is the Fund exclusively for New York or really a national fund that will help other individuals and communities?
The September 11th Fund is a national fund. While a significant portion of the funds will be used in the New York City/Tri-State area, we know that individuals and families from other communities have been affected. The Fund will provide support to help meet their needs and to those of their communities.
*************************************
Where do you think the money is going?
People or Organizations? If organizations, which ones, how much, and what are they doing with it. Maybe to commmunities, which ones, how much, and what are they doing with it.
I don't know maybe I'm just to distrusting these days but I see alot of money going into allot of different organizations to never be heard from again. I don't know, I just don't know.
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